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NoCtiS_NoX on 18 October 2010

Source: http://www.gamerzines.com/xbox-360/news/vanquish-xbox-360-dvd-storage.html

 

PlatinumGames has become the latest developer to raise its concerns over Microsoft's decision to stick with DVD for Xbox 360, saying that it was "a bit hard to compress everything in one disc" for Vanquish, and that the team thought they might have to cut content.

"Both PS3 and Xbox 360 are great platforms," said PlatinumGames' co-founder Atsushi Inaba talking to Eurogamer.

"They use very different methods in terms of processing data. They both have good things. It's really important to know how to approach depending on the console you're working on.

"But just speaking of media, since Xbox 360 still uses DVD, for games like Vanquish that have a lot of data in one disc and lots of voice over, it's a bit hard to compress everything in one disc.

 

"That is the only complaint I have."

The developer did eventually manage to squeeze everything in though. According to Inaba, "we thought we might have to cut content during the development but in the end we were able to fit everything in the DVD. So there's nothing we had to cut."

PlatinumGames is the latest in a string of developers to raise concerns over the relatively limited storage space offered by Xbox 360's DVD storage compared with the amount offered by PS3's Blu-ray.

Both id Software and Castlevania: Lords of Shadow developer MercurySteam have previously raised concerns, with the latter suggesting that it's an issue "Microsoft are going to experience more and more".

Microsoft's Steve McGill recently commented on the concerns saying that "people now recognise what a smart decision using DVD was to keep the pricing low".

But do you agree?

Vanquish launches on Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 this Friday. PlatinumGames say that either version offers "exactly identical quality".

 



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Jadedx on 18 October 2010

Blah, blah, blah, more disc space, too hard to compress, blah, blah, blah. If Halo Reach, Fallout, Fable, Gears, Alan Wake and many others can fit on one disk with no problems then there is something wrong with the way they are making their game.

 

Off topic: Why is it that only the people with Sony/Nintendo stuff in their avy's/Sigs post negative stuff on this forum? I doubt this guy even plays his 360 much and thats if he has one.



Aiddon on 18 October 2010

it is a bit of a problem, but maybe if people stopped trying to show off with needless cinematics or ancillary dialog things wouldn't be so bad. And that means for ALL developers. I'm looking forward to Vanquish, but when the beginning cut scene exceeds the double digit mark you might want to consider scaling things back.



disolitude on 18 October 2010

Like Xbox360 is 5 years old. The fact it has 512 of ram which is shared for video and syste is also going to be a problem...

Anything older is going to have tech limits. Multiple disk games, installs and compression are solution for the disk space problem. Life goes on as normal.



Mohasus on 18 October 2010
Jadedx said:

Blah, blah, blah, more disc space, too hard to compress, blah, blah, blah. If Halo Reach, Fallout, Fable, Gears, Alan Wake and many others can fit on one disk with no problems then there is something wrong with the way they are making their game.

 

Off topic: Why is it that only the people with Sony/Nintendo stuff in their avy's/Sigs post negative stuff on this forum? I doubt this guy even plays his 360 much and thats if he has one.


The game has a lot of pre-rendered cutscenes. Even though the game length is like 4-6 hours (not counting cutscenes).



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Jadedx on 18 October 2010
Mohasus said:
Jadedx said:

Blah, blah, blah, more disc space, too hard to compress, blah, blah, blah. If Halo Reach, Fallout, Fable, Gears, Alan Wake and many others can fit on one disk with no problems then there is something wrong with the way they are making their game.

 

Off topic: Why is it that only the people with Sony/Nintendo stuff in their avy's/Sigs post negative stuff on this forum? I doubt this guy even plays his 360 much and thats if he has one.


The game has a lot of pre-rendered cutscenes. Even though the game length is like 4-6 hours (not counting cutscenes).

Now I wont feel so bad when it sell poorly, I mean come on, 6 hours at most?



Hero_time88 on 18 October 2010

I don't really care about the Xbox 360, but the thing I hate about the limited DVD space is when devolopers have the option to include a Japanese voice track for the PS3 version and don't include the track because they want to keep both versions the same.

It happened with FFXIII and it recently happened again with Sengoku Basara 3.

If you have the option just do it, negate the others. It's not the fault of the PS3 that the others are using a dated storage disc.

 



disolitude on 18 October 2010
Jadedx said:
Mohasus said:
Jadedx said:

Blah, blah, blah, more disc space, too hard to compress, blah, blah, blah. If Halo Reach, Fallout, Fable, Gears, Alan Wake and many others can fit on one disk with no problems then there is something wrong with the way they are making their game.

 

Off topic: Why is it that only the people with Sony/Nintendo stuff in their avy's/Sigs post negative stuff on this forum? I doubt this guy even plays his 360 much and thats if he has one.


The game has a lot of pre-rendered cutscenes. Even though the game length is like 4-6 hours (not counting cutscenes).

Now I wont feel so bad when it sell poorly, I mean come on, 6 hours at most?

Platnum games is as shocked at that game length estimate as you are...

http://www.examiner.com/video-game-news-in-national/platinum-games-comments-on-vanquish-s-length



Wagram on 18 October 2010
disolitude said:
Jadedx said:
Mohasus said:
Jadedx said:

Blah, blah, blah, more disc space, too hard to compress, blah, blah, blah. If Halo Reach, Fallout, Fable, Gears, Alan Wake and many others can fit on one disk with no problems then there is something wrong with the way they are making their game.

 

Off topic: Why is it that only the people with Sony/Nintendo stuff in their avy's/Sigs post negative stuff on this forum? I doubt this guy even plays his 360 much and thats if he has one.


The game has a lot of pre-rendered cutscenes. Even though the game length is like 4-6 hours (not counting cutscenes).

Now I wont feel so bad when it sell poorly, I mean come on, 6 hours at most?

Platnum games is as shocked at that game length estimate as you are...

http://www.examiner.com/video-game-news-in-national/platinum-games-comments-on-vanquish-s-length


This game is on my must buy radar. If it is proven that this game is only 4-6 hours I will bargain bin it. However if this is proven false I will day 1 this game.

I'm not paying 65 dollars for a 4-6 hour game, that is ridiculous.



disolitude on 18 October 2010
Wagram said:
disolitude said:
Jadedx said:
Mohasus said:
Jadedx said:

Blah, blah, blah, more disc space, too hard to compress, blah, blah, blah. If Halo Reach, Fallout, Fable, Gears, Alan Wake and many others can fit on one disk with no problems then there is something wrong with the way they are making their game.

 

Off topic: Why is it that only the people with Sony/Nintendo stuff in their avy's/Sigs post negative stuff on this forum? I doubt this guy even plays his 360 much and thats if he has one.


The game has a lot of pre-rendered cutscenes. Even though the game length is like 4-6 hours (not counting cutscenes).

Now I wont feel so bad when it sell poorly, I mean come on, 6 hours at most?

Platnum games is as shocked at that game length estimate as you are...

http://www.examiner.com/video-game-news-in-national/platinum-games-comments-on-vanquish-s-length


This game is on my must buy radar. If it is proven that this game is only 4-6 hours I will bargain bin it. However if this is proven false I will day 1 this game.

I'm not paying 65 dollars for a 4-6 hour game, that is ridiculous.


I fully paid for it today at gamestop...lol.

It came down to Fable 3 (and 15 hours of gameplay) vs Vanquish (possible 4-6 hours)...and Vanquish still won. You can't substitute the adrenaline rush that the Vanquish demo had with loger less exciting gameplay in my book.

I should be able to sell/trade it at Gamestop for 40 in a month I do beat the game fast and there is no replay value...but i seriously doubt this.