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daroamer on 16 October 2010
unknown_soul89 said:
daroamer said:
unknown_soul89 said:
daroamer said:
First round of iPhone 4 preorders sold out

You're really bad at making a point you know that

No, I think you're just really bad at understanding things (or diliberatly being obtuse which judging from your past posting history is more likely).   Everything you said could have applied to Apple and the iphone 4:

"If you are right that just makes my point all the stronger, they can just rent/contract more if they need to, Apple has the money "


"Right because companies never want jobs, Apple has had months to do it, if they wanted more units they could of had them made, it's as simple as that "

Learn how business and distribution works before making a bigger fool of yourself.

(Also, there is no such phrase as "could OF", it's could HAVE or could've.)

Thats your point, you do realize that the demand for iphone was like 30 times the demand for kinect right? I said several times either MS isn't making enough or the demand is massive which isn't the case, in the Iphones case the demand was Massive, and they still did a pretty good job of meeting it but there were still some shortages, guess the reason I couldn't understand your point is because I though you had a half decent one


Where are you getting the info on what the demand is for Kinect?  You keep stating the demand is low but are not citing any sources.



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unknown_soul89 on 17 October 2010
daroamer said:
unknown_soul89 said:
daroamer said:
unknown_soul89 said:
daroamer said:
First round of iPhone 4 preorders sold out

You're really bad at making a point you know that

No, I think you're just really bad at understanding things (or diliberatly being obtuse which judging from your past posting history is more likely).   Everything you said could have applied to Apple and the iphone 4:

"If you are right that just makes my point all the stronger, they can just rent/contract more if they need to, Apple has the money "


"Right because companies never want jobs, Apple has had months to do it, if they wanted more units they could of had them made, it's as simple as that "

Learn how business and distribution works before making a bigger fool of yourself.

(Also, there is no such phrase as "could OF", it's could HAVE or could've.)

Thats your point, you do realize that the demand for iphone was like 30 times the demand for kinect right? I said several times either MS isn't making enough or the demand is massive which isn't the case, in the Iphones case the demand was Massive, and they still did a pretty good job of meeting it but there were still some shortages, guess the reason I couldn't understand your point is because I though you had a half decent one


Where are you getting the info on what the demand is for Kinect?  You keep stating the demand is low but are not citing any sources.

You do realize in order for the demand end to be the cause of the shortages it would have to be several million and thats just not the case



daroamer on 17 October 2010
unknown_soul89 said:
daroamer said:
unknown_soul89 said:
daroamer said:
unknown_soul89 said:
daroamer said:
First round of iPhone 4 preorders sold out

You're really bad at making a point you know that

No, I think you're just really bad at understanding things (or diliberatly being obtuse which judging from your past posting history is more likely).   Everything you said could have applied to Apple and the iphone 4:

"If you are right that just makes my point all the stronger, they can just rent/contract more if they need to, Apple has the money "


"Right because companies never want jobs, Apple has had months to do it, if they wanted more units they could of had them made, it's as simple as that "

Learn how business and distribution works before making a bigger fool of yourself.

(Also, there is no such phrase as "could OF", it's could HAVE or could've.)

Thats your point, you do realize that the demand for iphone was like 30 times the demand for kinect right? I said several times either MS isn't making enough or the demand is massive which isn't the case, in the Iphones case the demand was Massive, and they still did a pretty good job of meeting it but there were still some shortages, guess the reason I couldn't understand your point is because I though you had a half decent one


Where are you getting the info on what the demand is for Kinect?  You keep stating the demand is low but are not citing any sources.

You do realize in order for the demand end to be the cause of the shortages it would have to be several million and thats just not the case

Sources?  Anything to back up anything you are saying?



unknown_soul89 on 17 October 2010
daroamer said:
unknown_soul89 said:
daroamer said:
unknown_soul89 said:
daroamer said:
unknown_soul89 said:
daroamer said:
First round of iPhone 4 preorders sold out

You're really bad at making a point you know that

No, I think you're just really bad at understanding things (or diliberatly being obtuse which judging from your past posting history is more likely).   Everything you said could have applied to Apple and the iphone 4:

"If you are right that just makes my point all the stronger, they can just rent/contract more if they need to, Apple has the money "


"Right because companies never want jobs, Apple has had months to do it, if they wanted more units they could of had them made, it's as simple as that "

Learn how business and distribution works before making a bigger fool of yourself.

(Also, there is no such phrase as "could OF", it's could HAVE or could've.)

Thats your point, you do realize that the demand for iphone was like 30 times the demand for kinect right? I said several times either MS isn't making enough or the demand is massive which isn't the case, in the Iphones case the demand was Massive, and they still did a pretty good job of meeting it but there were still some shortages, guess the reason I couldn't understand your point is because I though you had a half decent one


Where are you getting the info on what the demand is for Kinect?  You keep stating the demand is low but are not citing any sources.

You do realize in order for the demand end to be the cause of the shortages it would have to be several million and thats just not the case

Sources?  Anything to back up anything you are saying?

You mean besides common sense, MSes predictions and the fact that no1 is willing to give any real numbers? 

http://www.ripten.com/2010/07/01/uk-retailer-kinect-pre-order-numbers-very-low-sam-n/

Do you have any sources that state stores have sold more then 1 pre-order each?



daroamer on 17 October 2010
unknown_soul89 said:
daroamer said:
unknown_soul89 said:
daroamer said:
unknown_soul89 said:
daroamer said:
unknown_soul89 said:
daroamer said:
First round of iPhone 4 preorders sold out

You're really bad at making a point you know that

No, I think you're just really bad at understanding things (or diliberatly being obtuse which judging from your past posting history is more likely).   Everything you said could have applied to Apple and the iphone 4:

"If you are right that just makes my point all the stronger, they can just rent/contract more if they need to, Apple has the money "


"Right because companies never want jobs, Apple has had months to do it, if they wanted more units they could of had them made, it's as simple as that "

Learn how business and distribution works before making a bigger fool of yourself.

(Also, there is no such phrase as "could OF", it's could HAVE or could've.)

Thats your point, you do realize that the demand for iphone was like 30 times the demand for kinect right? I said several times either MS isn't making enough or the demand is massive which isn't the case, in the Iphones case the demand was Massive, and they still did a pretty good job of meeting it but there were still some shortages, guess the reason I couldn't understand your point is because I though you had a half decent one


Where are you getting the info on what the demand is for Kinect?  You keep stating the demand is low but are not citing any sources.

You do realize in order for the demand end to be the cause of the shortages it would have to be several million and thats just not the case

Sources?  Anything to back up anything you are saying?

You mean besides common sense, MSes predictions and the fact that no1 is willing to give any real numbers? 

http://www.ripten.com/2010/07/01/uk-retailer-kinect-pre-order-numbers-very-low-sam-n/

Do you have any sources that state stores have sold more then 1 pre-order each?

Thats from July 1st, I'm not surprised pre-orders were low over 4 months before release.  He also gives no numbers.

Here are some articles:

http://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-kinect-will-outsell-ipad-at-launch-says-kudo-tsunoda-17103066/

iPad sold about 1 million units at launch and hey also, did you know that ipod sold out of preorders?

http://www.intomobile.com/2010/03/29/apple-ipad-pre-orders-sell-out-ship-dates-pushed-back-to-april-12/

How many does Microsoft think they will sell?  3 million:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/112/1121522p1.html

But it's not just Microsoft, one industry analyst predicted they'd sell about 4 million this holiday:

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/12/analyst-kinect-sales-could-top-4-million-in-2010/

And now many are selling out of pre-orders:

Game & Amazon

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2010-10-12-kinect-sold-out-at-game_8

Gamestop and Newegg in the US:

http://www.xbox360digest.com/2010/10/07/gamestop-sells-out-kinect-preorder/

http://donthatethegeek.com/2010/10/08/gamestop-newegg-already-sold-out-of-kinect/

Of course, you're probably right and they all only got 1 unit each to sell.



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unknown_soul89 on 17 October 2010
daroamer said:
unknown_soul89 said:
daroamer said:
unknown_soul89 said:
daroamer said:
unknown_soul89 said:
daroamer said:
unknown_soul89 said:
daroamer said:
First round of iPhone 4 preorders sold out

You're really bad at making a point you know that

No, I think you're just really bad at understanding things (or diliberatly being obtuse which judging from your past posting history is more likely).   Everything you said could have applied to Apple and the iphone 4:

"If you are right that just makes my point all the stronger, they can just rent/contract more if they need to, Apple has the money "


"Right because companies never want jobs, Apple has had months to do it, if they wanted more units they could of had them made, it's as simple as that "

Learn how business and distribution works before making a bigger fool of yourself.

(Also, there is no such phrase as "could OF", it's could HAVE or could've.)

Thats your point, you do realize that the demand for iphone was like 30 times the demand for kinect right? I said several times either MS isn't making enough or the demand is massive which isn't the case, in the Iphones case the demand was Massive, and they still did a pretty good job of meeting it but there were still some shortages, guess the reason I couldn't understand your point is because I though you had a half decent one


Where are you getting the info on what the demand is for Kinect?  You keep stating the demand is low but are not citing any sources.

You do realize in order for the demand end to be the cause of the shortages it would have to be several million and thats just not the case

Sources?  Anything to back up anything you are saying?

You mean besides common sense, MSes predictions and the fact that no1 is willing to give any real numbers? 

http://www.ripten.com/2010/07/01/uk-retailer-kinect-pre-order-numbers-very-low-sam-n/

Do you have any sources that state stores have sold more then 1 pre-order each?

Thats from July 1st, I'm not surprised pre-orders were low over 4 months before release.  He also gives no numbers.

Here are some articles:

http://www.slashgear.com/microsoft-kinect-will-outsell-ipad-at-launch-says-kudo-tsunoda-17103066/

iPad sold about 1 million units at launch and hey also, did you know that ipod sold out of preorders?

http://www.intomobile.com/2010/03/29/apple-ipad-pre-orders-sell-out-ship-dates-pushed-back-to-april-12/

How many does Microsoft think they will sell?  3 million:

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/112/1121522p1.html

But it's not just Microsoft, one industry analyst predicted they'd sell about 4 million this holiday:

http://www.joystiq.com/2010/08/12/analyst-kinect-sales-could-top-4-million-in-2010/

And now many are selling out of pre-orders:

Game & Amazon

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2010-10-12-kinect-sold-out-at-game_8

Gamestop and Newegg in the US:

http://www.xbox360digest.com/2010/10/07/gamestop-sells-out-kinect-preorder/

http://donthatethegeek.com/2010/10/08/gamestop-newegg-already-sold-out-of-kinect/

Of course, you're probably right and they all only got 1 unit each to sell.

you went to one extreme I went to the other, not one of those links confirms they've sold more then 1 kinect pre-order each, mine better proved my point then yours, yours



daroamer on 17 October 2010
unknown_soul89 said:

you went to one extreme I went to the other, not one of those links confirms they've sold more then 1 kinect pre-order each, mine better proved my point then yours, yours

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/40209/Kinect-pre-orders-boom

"In fact MCV understands one large chain has encouraged stores to secure 10 pre-orders for Kinect a day. Sources says they expect advance orders to topple half a million in the UK by launch."



unknown_soul89 on 17 October 2010
daroamer said:
unknown_soul89 said:
 

you went to one extreme I went to the other, not one of those links confirms they've sold more then 1 kinect pre-order each, mine better proved my point then yours, yours

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/40209/Kinect-pre-orders-boom

"In fact MCV understands one large chain has encouraged stores to secure 10 pre-orders for Kinect a day. Sources says they expect advance orders to topple half a million in the UK by launch."

You left out two key words 

"In fact MCV understands one large chain has encouraged stores to secure 10 pre-orders for Kinect a day. Sources says they expect advance orders to topple half a million in the UK by launch."

still no conformation any store has more then one pre-order other then common sense (which is the same thing you weren't satisfied with with my argument that kinects demand isn't nearly high enough to cause shortages for a company with the resources of MS)



Hyruken on 17 October 2010

Just thought i'd post this pic of my local Game in town.

It is a bit difficult to read the sign but basically it say's that the whole of Game have just 59 Kinects left to sell. And that they will likely not be getting anymore in for quite sometime. So i thought i would share it so those that think it is just an online thing saying it is about to sell out etc so they can see it clearly isn't, it is an instore thing too.



oldschoolfool on 17 October 2010

I'm personally wanting this to do well. I'll consider getting this,but not right away,I want to see reviews and info when this comes out,then I'll make me my choice. I hope this is a success.