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unknown_soul89 on 13 October 2010

So still no actual numbers on how much it sold and ps move still outselling it on amazon, something tells me neither supply nor demand is as wide spread as MS would have us believe 



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LordMatrix on 14 October 2010
Shadowblind said:
Smidlee said:

Your Shape works on the Wii as well yet it's not really a game either. If there is lag it wouldn't matter that much.

 It seems most exercise gimmicks tries to fool you in thinking exercise is fun. Exercise is hard work and can't compete with games and movies when itcomes to fun. Now exercise can be satsifying and meaningful even more than entertainment  just no where near as fun.

 


The difference between Your Shape on the Wii and Kinect is as large as the wiimote vs. kinect itself. On kinect the game generates your entire body, clothes and all, and tracks 48 joints/bones/whatever-the-hell it tracks. So if every game can generate your entire body with 1:1 motion, then it could have potential in other ways.

 

And then it all boils down to whether or not it has lag, which we will find out Nov. 4. I just can't wait for horror games on it; hopefully Penumbra and maybe an old style Resident Evil. I wonder how Haunt will be . . .


Since when was Yourshape Fitness on anything but X360/Kinect? Are you guys gettign that game confused with EA's fitness game?  Pretty sure Yourshape Fitness is a Kinect only game.



 How our favorite systems are just like humans and sometimes have issues finding their special someone...

Xbox 360 wants to Kinect &  PS3 wants to Move!  Why are both systems having such relationship problems?  The reason is they both become so infactuated with desire while watching the Wii as it waggles on by. They simply want what they can't have.

 Official member of the Xbox 360 Squad

thranx on 14 October 2010
unknown_soul89 said:

So still no actual numbers on how much it sold and ps move still outselling it on amazon, something tells me neither supply nor demand is as wide spread as MS would have us believe 


It hasn't even released yet. As far as I know amazon is sold out of pre orders so no one can buy it there any more. Could be wrong on the amazon part.



DirtyP2002 on 14 October 2010
unknown_soul89 said:

So still no actual numbers on how much it sold and ps move still outselling it on amazon, something tells me neither supply nor demand is as wide spread as MS would have us believe 
  • game.co.uk
  • play.com
  • amazon.co.uk
  • gamestop.com
  • bestbuy.com
  • newegg.com

are or were all sold out. I think this is quite massive.

MS said 30,000 stores in the US will sell Kinect. 7,000 stores will have a midnight launch.
There will be more kinects in UK than Xbox 360s at launch. The Xbox 360 sold 70k consoles in 2 days in UK.

MS expected to sell 3 million Kinects in 2010.

So we get MUCH more data from MS than Sony for PS Move. All Sony said is: PS Move sales will be slow, but it will get somehow momentum.



Imagine not having GamePass on your console...

yo_john117 on 14 October 2010
Darth Tigris said:
cmeese47 said:
Darth Tigris said:
twesterm said:
cmeese47 said:

I have seen enough of these threads, this things are not fucking hand made if MS really wanted to they could make 10 million before Xmas but no they want to make it seem like they are going to be hard to find to make people buy them. 


The problem is they could make facilities to make 10 million of the units but then they would have stock just lying around and still have the facilities to make 10 million units.  That's an incredible waste of money and this is try for everything, not just Kinect.

Deman may be large for something initially but the demand will eventually go down.  If you go from producing a million units in a month to 600k to 400k to 300k, you suddenly have a facility that can produce a million units per month but it's only running at 30% capacity.  That's awful.

Furthermore, as time goes on, the cost to produce your items (especially electronics of any kind) becomes cheaper.  So while I could make two months supply of something in a month, next month it might be cheaper to produce and I would have wasted money.

So it's not that any company wants to see their product have shortages, it's that they don't want to waste a giant amount of money.

Its so beautiful to read posts like this instead of shortsighted rage posting.  Thanks for your contributions here.

Well argued but seriously if they expected to sell 3 million units then it seems pretty odd that with only around a 250k pre-ordered worldwide that they couldn't meat that demand since it falls well within their projections. To meet their 3 million projection Kinect would need to sell 375k units a week. Even more so if you factor in that the rest of the world doesn't get Kinect on the 4th. 

I just want a bit more information than we have to decide whether or not MS is trying to create or meet demand.

So you think preorders represent the entire stock that will be available on launch?  Or even half?

Let me give a comparison.  Halo Reach, a week before launch, supposedly had just under 2 million preorders.  Yet during the first week, it sold just over 4 million.  And in all of that, with the exception of the Legendary editions, there was no talk of shortages, meaning that there was even more than that available on shelves.

That's just Halo Reach.  I'm sure there are examples of many other games with preorder numbers that dwarf their actual first week sales.

Long story short?  Don't put too much stock in preorder numbers representing first week sales or stock availability.

And don't forget that KINECT is aimed at casual gamers and family gamers (is there a difference o_0) and they tend to not really pre-order things.



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unknown_soul89 on 15 October 2010
thranx said:
unknown_soul89 said:

So still no actual numbers on how much it sold and ps move still outselling it on amazon, something tells me neither supply nor demand is as wide spread as MS would have us believe 


It hasn't even released yet. As far as I know amazon is sold out of pre orders so no one can buy it there any more. Could be wrong on the amazon part.

how the hell can you be sold out on preorders, preorders are what companies use to judge how many to ship, unless theres serious shortage of them being made I don't see how thats possible, so the sold out is definitely on the supply end of the chain 



unknown_soul89 on 15 October 2010
DirtyP2002 said:
unknown_soul89 said:

So still no actual numbers on how much it sold and ps move still outselling it on amazon, something tells me neither supply nor demand is as wide spread as MS would have us believe 
  • game.co.uk
  • play.com
  • amazon.co.uk
  • gamestop.com
  • bestbuy.com
  • newegg.com

are or were all sold out. I think this is quite massive.

MS said 30,000 stores in the US will sell Kinect. 7,000 stores will have a midnight launch.
There will be more kinects in UK than Xbox 360s at launch. The Xbox 360 sold 70k consoles in 2 days in UK.

MS expected to sell 3 million Kinects in 2010.

So we get MUCH more data from MS than Sony for PS Move. All Sony said is: PS Move sales will be slow, but it will get somehow momentum.

Again how the hell can you be sold out on preorders unless you aren't making enough, the "sold out" is on the supply end 



Nomad Blue on 15 October 2010
DirtyP2002 said:
  • game.co.uk
  • play.com
  • amazon.co.uk
  • gamestop.com
  • bestbuy.com
  • newegg.com

are or were all sold out. I think this is quite massive.

MS said 30,000 stores in the US will sell Kinect. 7,000 stores will have a midnight launch.
There will be more kinects in UK than Xbox 360s at launch. The Xbox 360 sold 70k consoles in 2 days in UK.

MS expected to sell 3 million Kinects in 2010.

So we get MUCH more data from MS than Sony for PS Move. All Sony said is: PS Move sales will be slow, but it will get somehow momentum.

Really?  Then how many units is MS supplying to retail at launch?



Nomad Blue on 15 October 2010
unknown_soul89 said:

Again how the hell can you be sold out on preorders unless you aren't making enough, the "sold out" is on the supply end 


Aren't making enough, or withholding units/promising only small supplies in the early pre-order stage to create buzz.



ultraslick on 15 October 2010

Isnt your shape fitness for the Kinect more or less just a port of the older wii game called "your shape" ?

http://yourshapewii.com/

they are both ubi games.

at least MS has Kinect Adventures and Kinect Sports to fall back on.

Also, at OP; the thread title should read; Microsoft working hard to create demand for the 360.

Of course they are working on producing the Kinect right now, but publicizing this through the mouth of Microsoft is simply marketing to create a buzz or hype around Kinect. Its what Microsoft continuously does in one phase or another. They are so aggressive it makes me want to just puke.



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