rushing isnt the only strategy, my only problem is the cheese, and the terran players. other then that im fine.

i find rushes funny, i watched funday monday this week and day9 showed a replay of a guy doing a planetary forteress rush, hilarious!

ur post is hilarious

u listed plenty of things that u consider "broken" but you still claim : the game is balanced lol

i saw it too

but u have to precise the rule was : "play terran without marine/marauder/tank"

You just simply misunderstood, it's fairly balanced, the problems are small. Just because there are numerous small problems doesn't mean it isn't pretty close to fully balanced. It's not like 1 problem blows the whole thing completely out of the water.

Nice post, I mostly agree with what you've said. Just didn't wanna write all that up!

As for balancing, I'd be cool with a Marauder nerf (surprised it didn't come 1.1)... assuming it came with a Stalker nerf!

Rushing is a part of the game. You need to scout and to understand when your oponent is going to rush. At the beggining you can send a probe to scout, then you can send an observer. I have problems with zerg roach rushes untill I learned to scout and prevent. So if you play toss vs zerg you need to have always 3 things in your mind:
1. lings rush - late gas, early pool, many lings - more zealots, put them in a place where lings can't outflank them.

2. roach rush - early gas, late pool, few lings, early  roach warren - go for quick Immortals

3. muta rush - quick Lair - check for spire if you see one do more anti air

You need not only to make counter units and to wait your opponent to come to you, but to attack him before he switched to other types. If you see that your opponent is making many roaches supported with a few ligs, go for a lot of stalkers with few immortals and attack him, before he put hydras around them.

But see, thats not how Zerg works, and that's why many people cry all the time "Zerg is SOOOO UP". But for this, I ask Zerg players the following. How often do you use Infestors? How often is your army composed of 5 different unit types? how often do you do baneling bombings with overlords? If you do a rush build, how often are you hitting the base and with how many lings/banelings? How many bases are you running? Pumping out creep tumors? Constantly Spawning larva? Using your minerals constantly or properly saving for a timed push?

Zerg is about econ, econ, econ, OH an armies coming, pump out units. Now that doesn't mean you don't make ANYTHING until the army leaves the base (always keep a ling outside their base in ZvT and ZvP in the early/early midgame). Of course you have to have the right tech buildings up, and scouting really is the key. If you see they aren't really making that many units, you can econ more. If you see a crapload of marines and marauders at their wall, you get banelings and maybe tech up for baneling speed. It's about reaction. So when they do their timed push, you take out the entire army. Then maybe you get another base, more drones, more econ. Then the next timed push comes and again, you take out the army. At this point though, you're fully teched up, and you can make whatever you want.

Yeah, if the units get a buff, that would just destroy balance. Man, give me stronger zerglings, and my 2v2 strat's win ratio will go from 3:1 to 10:1 =P

If we really want to get into balance issues, the most pressing problems lie in the maps. Actual race differences hardly matter in comparison to how broken the maps are. Blizzard really dropped the ball on the maps so far.

Zerg is harder to play, mostly because of map imbalance. The higher required APM thing is no good too, but that's kind of trickier. What many players don't realize is...well.. let me put it this way. If you want to make 5 marines, you press 5 (at least that's where I put my rax) and then RRRRR. That's 6 actions. If you want to make 5 sets of lings, and let's just assume you have only 3 larva at the time, you'll end up pressing 5 (also for my hatchs) szzz, do something else, 5sz, and do something else, 5sz. Just the act of using larva really adds up with the APM. The only APM problem I really see with Zerg is spawn larva. Auto-cast is kind of a cop-out, but the current way it's done is broken too. Stacking would kind of break Zerg, and would completely overpower them, but the fact that you HAVE to spawn larva the instant it's ready is just too macro-intensive. Especially considering Zerg is the most micro-intensive race.

Unfortunately, the best option is the cop-out, and make spawn larva auto-castable. That or remove the queen and completely rework Zerg, which I'm sure they don't want to do. I cant' find the threads that have the detailed pictures, but it's quite nasty. If anyone can find em, post em, that's the biggest issue right now imo. I'll keep looking for them too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_402250&feature=iv&v=5TgOYE3SwE8

amazing game !

WHOA, just stumbled on some possible patch notes,

http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/761331

# We're increasing roach range. This will allow roaches to be more effective in large groups, giving the zerg more options in the mid to end game.

#     Fungal Growth will now prevent Blink, which will give zerg a way to stop endlessly Blinking stalkers which can be very challenging to deal with in large numbers.

#     The Barracks are going to require a Supply Depot, which will impact a lot of early terran reaper pushes.

#     The reaper speed upgrade will require the Factory, which is meant to weaken a lot of the early terran reaper attacks that dominate so many matches, especially in team games.

#     We're making a number of increases to the health of zerg buildings, which will make the very vulnerable zerg technology structures more resistant to raids.  We don’t expect these hit point changes to have a super significant impact on the game, but the current numbers felt way too low.

These are big, the roach range will actually make them a strong, viable choice early game depending on how big of a difference it is. FG vs Stalkers was an issue, so it's nice to see that. The health, gooood, hope hatch/lair/hive gets a huge boost, marauder drops are crazy strong, 3 filled medivacs, and the hatch is down in like 5 seconds. It's more about spire sniping though.

But the other 2 are HUGE. Reapers are being nerfed into uselessness, just like Ultra. Well, at least, they won't be the harass unit they used to be, instead they might be like hydra, back-row dps. But needing a supply depot before you can build a rax? All Terran rushes are destroyed. I guess they realized that unscouted 2proxy rax marine rush was a little too strong. Scouted, no problem, but the window was tiny.

Man, if this is true (and it's an official post so it should be) 6rax and 8rax reaper rushes are gone. Also, I usually 10 depot 10 rax, so I won't be able to do that now, I'll have to wait for the depot to finish, meaning I'm down maybe 1 marine the entire game. Not really game-changing for normal Terran builds, but proxying is just destroyed with this patch. Heck, sometimes I 10 rax 10 depot 10 gas, 12 orbital, 13 rax. That's gone after this patch =P

true true true

I was nipticking ;)

I know what u mean : it is overall quite balanced

As a zerg I have fucking problem to deal with marine ball ;)