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sapphi_snake on 08 October 2010
lestatdark said:

Actually, historically speaking, it was not the bible who was written by "people influenced by the holy spirit", instead that's reserved to the scriptures and passages inside. The bible is actually just a very pinpoint compilation of those scriptures and manuscripts compiled over centuries, both the old testament (written in tandem with jewish beliefs and scriptures, and the new testament, which is unique to Christian ideology).

The bible itself, as I  said, was compiled in the 3rd century, during the ascension of the Byzantine Roman empire, with Christianity as the emerging religion. Emperor Constantine with the conjunction of Christian priests and clergy were the original compilers of the bible. 

I may not be Christian myself (I'm a wiccan), but I have two heavy-Christian believers in my family (my grandparents from my dad's side of the family), so I was taught a lot of the history of the bible when I was young. 

So the contradiction is still true. The bible itself was written and compiled by men who chose to carefully put only those scriptures that "fitted" the Christian ideology of the early Christian era, leaving aside a lot of controversial scriptures that were later found in the Dead Sea.
Amongst these controversial scriptures, there are some that contradict the depiction of Jesus Christ and it's relationship with Maria Magdalene, especially the scriptures written by Magdalene herself.

Yes, the scriptures that compose the bible may have some "higher power" influencing or inspiring the people that wrote them, but in the end, man and it's preconceptions, prejudices and hidden agendas left their influence in the final product itself.

FTR the Roman Empire was still unified during Constantine's reign.



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lestatdark on 08 October 2010
sapphi_snake said:
lestatdark said:

Actually, historically speaking, it was not the bible who was written by "people influenced by the holy spirit", instead that's reserved to the scriptures and passages inside. The bible is actually just a very pinpoint compilation of those scriptures and manuscripts compiled over centuries, both the old testament (written in tandem with jewish beliefs and scriptures, and the new testament, which is unique to Christian ideology).

The bible itself, as I  said, was compiled in the 3rd century, during the ascension of the Byzantine Roman empire, with Christianity as the emerging religion. Emperor Constantine with the conjunction of Christian priests and clergy were the original compilers of the bible. 

I may not be Christian myself (I'm a wiccan), but I have two heavy-Christian believers in my family (my grandparents from my dad's side of the family), so I was taught a lot of the history of the bible when I was young. 

So the contradiction is still true. The bible itself was written and compiled by men who chose to carefully put only those scriptures that "fitted" the Christian ideology of the early Christian era, leaving aside a lot of controversial scriptures that were later found in the Dead Sea.
Amongst these controversial scriptures, there are some that contradict the depiction of Jesus Christ and it's relationship with Maria Magdalene, especially the scriptures written by Magdalene herself.

Yes, the scriptures that compose the bible may have some "higher power" influencing or inspiring the people that wrote them, but in the end, man and it's preconceptions, prejudices and hidden agendas left their influence in the final product itself.

FTR the Roman Empire was still unified during Constantine's reign.

That's right, but it was during constantine's reign that the shift to the Byzantine era began, especially circa 324 when he moved the empire's capital from Nicomedia to Byzantium. Also, it's only due to conventions that Byzantine and Roman empire are said separately, because they were basically the same during that era.



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sapphi_snake on 08 October 2010
lestatdark said:
sapphi_snake said:
lestatdark said:

Actually, historically speaking, it was not the bible who was written by "people influenced by the holy spirit", instead that's reserved to the scriptures and passages inside. The bible is actually just a very pinpoint compilation of those scriptures and manuscripts compiled over centuries, both the old testament (written in tandem with jewish beliefs and scriptures, and the new testament, which is unique to Christian ideology).

The bible itself, as I  said, was compiled in the 3rd century, during the ascension of the Byzantine Roman empire, with Christianity as the emerging religion. Emperor Constantine with the conjunction of Christian priests and clergy were the original compilers of the bible. 

I may not be Christian myself (I'm a wiccan), but I have two heavy-Christian believers in my family (my grandparents from my dad's side of the family), so I was taught a lot of the history of the bible when I was young. 

So the contradiction is still true. The bible itself was written and compiled by men who chose to carefully put only those scriptures that "fitted" the Christian ideology of the early Christian era, leaving aside a lot of controversial scriptures that were later found in the Dead Sea.
Amongst these controversial scriptures, there are some that contradict the depiction of Jesus Christ and it's relationship with Maria Magdalene, especially the scriptures written by Magdalene herself.

Yes, the scriptures that compose the bible may have some "higher power" influencing or inspiring the people that wrote them, but in the end, man and it's preconceptions, prejudices and hidden agendas left their influence in the final product itself.

FTR the Roman Empire was still unified during Constantine's reign.

That's right, but it was during constantine's reign that the shift to the Byzantine era began, especially circa 324 when he moved the empire's capital from Nicomedia to Byzantium. Also, it's only due to conventions that Byzantine and Roman empire are said separately, because they were basically the same during that era.

True, though the Byzantine Empire is tha name attributed to the Eastern Roman Empire during the Middle Ages.



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"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

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"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

lestatdark on 08 October 2010
sapphi_snake said:
lestatdark said:
sapphi_snake said:
lestatdark said:

Actually, historically speaking, it was not the bible who was written by "people influenced by the holy spirit", instead that's reserved to the scriptures and passages inside. The bible is actually just a very pinpoint compilation of those scriptures and manuscripts compiled over centuries, both the old testament (written in tandem with jewish beliefs and scriptures, and the new testament, which is unique to Christian ideology).

The bible itself, as I  said, was compiled in the 3rd century, during the ascension of the Byzantine Roman empire, with Christianity as the emerging religion. Emperor Constantine with the conjunction of Christian priests and clergy were the original compilers of the bible. 

I may not be Christian myself (I'm a wiccan), but I have two heavy-Christian believers in my family (my grandparents from my dad's side of the family), so I was taught a lot of the history of the bible when I was young. 

So the contradiction is still true. The bible itself was written and compiled by men who chose to carefully put only those scriptures that "fitted" the Christian ideology of the early Christian era, leaving aside a lot of controversial scriptures that were later found in the Dead Sea.
Amongst these controversial scriptures, there are some that contradict the depiction of Jesus Christ and it's relationship with Maria Magdalene, especially the scriptures written by Magdalene herself.

Yes, the scriptures that compose the bible may have some "higher power" influencing or inspiring the people that wrote them, but in the end, man and it's preconceptions, prejudices and hidden agendas left their influence in the final product itself.

FTR the Roman Empire was still unified during Constantine's reign.

That's right, but it was during constantine's reign that the shift to the Byzantine era began, especially circa 324 when he moved the empire's capital from Nicomedia to Byzantium. Also, it's only due to conventions that Byzantine and Roman empire are said separately, because they were basically the same during that era.

True, though the Byzantine Empire is tha name attributed to the Eastern Roman Empire during the Middle Ages.


Correct, though the Byzantine Empire had many shifts in it's territory during the thousand years that composed it, especially in two major centuries (6th and 11th century) when it had almost the same territory as the original Roman Empire. 

This conversation is probably going way off-topic now, but I think it's always good to shed some historical significance to events, such as the creation of the Christian Bible, which in the end, is just another book. 



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sapphi_snake on 08 October 2010
lestatdark said:


Correct, though the Byzantine Empire had many shifts in it's territory during the thousand years that composed it, especially in two major centuries (6th and 11th century) when it had almost the same territory as the original Roman Empire. 

This conversation is probably going way off-topic now, but I think it's always good to shed some historical significance to events, such as the creation of the Christian Bible, which in the end, is just another book. 

Yeah. People should know that it was not initially a singular book.



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"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

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dunno001 on 08 October 2010
Farmageddon said:
zarx said:
Farmageddon said:

He, my post is broken :(

I guess it was probably stupid to quote all that.

Well, it wasn't anything usefull anyway.


congrats you broke the thread

Is it too late to say it was n porpuse?

*glares angrily* Yes...



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baggy on 09 October 2010

This doesn't prove anything..



Wiintendo on 10 October 2010

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Cheebee on 10 October 2010

Oh gosh, ANOTHER one of these threads...?



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Wiintendo on 10 October 2010
Cheebee said:

Oh gosh, ANOTHER one of these threads...?


it's interesting.

 

 

Economic Collapse in September?

By: Clif Droke

Posted Sunday, 18 May 2008

A rumor is swirling around the Internet that an inglorious end to the U.S. economy is imminent.  Unlike previous rumors to this effect, this one carries the weight of recent events in the financial realm and has many believing the rumor will come to pass.

http://news.goldseek.com/ClifDroke/1211138541.php

 

 

apart from that, you've gotta guy who on July 18, 2008 predicted the sharpest market downturn to the date since 9/11/01.

http://finance.google.com/group/google.finance.983582/msg/624ab36903fa8696

(link to individual message replicated as above)

 

 

http://finance.google.com/group/google.finance.983582/browse_thread/thread/aad550b590f931bf?pli=1

(link to thread from which the post comes from)

 

 

This certainly raises questions and makes ya(for me at least) rethink how the current condition of the worldwide economy came to be and how global economy works in general.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion_of_Jesus#Accounts                                                                                             'almost all modern scholars agree Jesus existed, and His baptism and crucifixion are historical facts.'
^Islam is a lie[.]  The Koran denies He died on the cross.

BIGGEST NEWS OF OUR LIFETIME: India Passes $20 Billion Dollar Law To Guarantee Food As A Civil Right

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