Any mature, open-minded people here who have actually seen the videos that would like to discuss it?
Any mature, open-minded people here who have actually seen the videos that would like to discuss it?
I've only watched the first part of the series of videos, and I find a lot of the sources questionable. Marco Polo, for instance, was later found to have been one of the greatest liars in history. Almost everything he wrote was proven false later on. I'll keep watching, though. No sense in not hearing the opposition's arguments. I mean, it's possible that a few decendents of dinosaurs still walked among men, though this seems tragically to be poised as an argument agaisnt evolution which it fails so terribly at.
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| OoSnap said: Any mature, open-minded people here who have actually seen the videos that would like to discuss it? |
They dismiss scientific givens (oooh, ancient animals STILL exist on earth, shocking!) and take that little bit of information and make a grand supposition that makes no sense under any context.
Sure, alligators still exist. They're nearly perfect predators with very little need and/or desire to evolve past their near perfection. What's that got to do with dinosaurs? Or anything past proving another piece of evolution, really?
And dragons? REALLY?!?! "Near uniform description" is laughable and WRONG. Western dragons were completely different than their mythical Asian counterparts, which were different than mythical American versions, etc... It's not shocking that mankind, through fear, created terrible monsters based on the scariest creatures around, aka. lizards. Reptiles are emotionless, unpredictable, and very bizarre to a thinking yet primitive mammal. So they're told as tall tales around a campfire and a mythology is formed. You know, like the flood mythology from the Bible and countless other ancient religions. Oh, wait, I'm not supposed to use these "facts" to question Biblical canon, only those wacky evolutionists who are polluting our children.
I only watched the first video in this series but I've seen plenty of others. I thoroughly enjoyed watching my anthropology professor systematically tear this kind of shit to shreds with proven science.
As is typical of the kind of manipulative "science" used in videos such as this, they focus on trivial aspects of evolution that can be explained in multiple ways and ignore the absolutely huge TOMES of scientific data that directly contradicts the other "facts" they use to prove their point.

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Can I ask you how old you think the Earth actually is?
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You think the Bible would have read more like Turok: Dinosaur Hunter with all the dinosaurs wandering around and epic Dinosaur Vs. Man battles in biblical times.
Whatever happened to Dinosaur Vs. Man: Babylonians Vs. T-Rex? Or Dinosaur Vs. Man: Egyptians Vs. Ultrasaurus?
Or that stegosaurus carving found in temple in Cambodia built in 1186 AD, which should have meant Stegosaurus Vs. King Richard The Lionheart could have happened? Okay, so King Richard was never in Cambodia. But then again, Stegosaurus fossils have never been found outside of Colorado, Wyoming and Utah.
That's the real mystery to me.
Some religious nuts believe the world 6,000 year old and they believe in the Creationism of the Bible just like Sarah Palin and religious cults/sects. Palin believes the world is only 6,000 years old and was created by God.
The Bible is fairy tales for children. No way is Creationism or a big guy in the sky created the world and universe. Physicists and other science experts have proven that science created the world and the universe more than 4 billion years ago.
Modern man has only been alive for 70,000 years originate from Africa and migrating to all the continent of the world over time. Man evolved from chimpanzees and Darwin's theory of Evolution proves that life on this planet has slowly evolved and changed over billions of years. The Dinosaurs were extinct 65 million years ago due to a meteorite wiping them out. 65 million year gap between the arrival of man and the extinction of the Dinosaurs. Carbon dating of fossils show the dinosaurs have been dead for 65 million years .
40,000 years ago the last of the giant mammals: woolly mammoths, sabre tooth tigers became extinct. Lizards, alligators and crocodiles closely resembling dinosaurs are still thriving: unchanged for millions of years.
BTW: In Steven Spielberg's Jurassic Park, they brought the dinosaurs pack from the dead by extracting mosquito DNA and growing dinosaurs in the science laboratory. Cloning dinosaurs and bringing them back from the grave is impossible. ;)))
Assuming for a moment that dinosaurs and humans did co-exists how does this prove
a. that the universe is only 10,000 years old? or
b. that evolution is a lie?
Dinosaurs still exist today so what's your point?

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| binary solo said: Assuming for a moment that dinosaurs and humans did co-exists how does this prove a. that the universe is only 10,000 years old? or b. that evolution is a lie? Dinosaurs still exist today so what's your point?
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Eh, different branch from the dinosaurs. Around at the same time though. Mind you, so were crocs.

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Well, I mostly agree with you, but science of course can't "create the world", science can explain the physical aspects and principles that were/are active in the creation of the world as we know it, but it can't explain why there was enough matter (more than anti-matter) to begin with and why the 4 fundamental interactions (electromagnetism, strong interaction, weak interaction and gravitation) are correlated in such an optimal way for the universe to form as it is now (which essentially is the reason for us being alive).
And in my opinion the bible was written to give people hope and a reason to live through dark times.. that's not very essential to us in the western world anymore, but I think there is no reason to mock that, although I agree that it's hard not to mock the people that think every line in that book is the ultimate truth and can't be doubted.
Btw, some scientists try to reactive dinosaur DNA, which lies dormant in todays birds.. I guess within a century or so they might find enough parts to actually recreate a "dinosaur-like" being, although such an act would be morally highly questionable.