By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - General - Jewish-Israelis treated "brutally" by IDF in latest Gaza boat raid

SOURCE

Israel Defense Forces soldiers used excessive force while taking over a Gaza-bound aid ship organized by Jewish and Israeli activists, the boat's passengers said Tuesday, countering the military's official version claiming that the takeover had been uneventful.

Earlier Tuesday the IDF reported that Israeli naval commandos peacefully boarded the Jewish aid boat attempting to break a naval blockade on Gaza, saying "IDF naval forces recently boarded the yacht 'Irene', and it is currently being led to the Ashdod seaport along with its passengers."

However, testimonies by passengers who were released from police questioning later in the day seemed to counter the IDF's claims, with Israeli activist and former Israel Air Force pilot Yonatan Shapira saying that there were "no words to describe what we went through during the takeover."

Shapira said the activists, who he said displayed no violence, were met with extreme IDF brutality, adding that the soldiers "just jumped us, and hit us. I was hit with a taser gun."

"Some of the soldiers treated us atrociously," Shapira said, adding that he felt there was a "huge gap between what the IDF spokesman is saying happened and what really happened."

The former IAF pilot said he and his fellow activists were "proud of the mission," saying it was organized "for the sake of a statement – that the siege on Gaza is a crime, that it's immoral, un-Jewish, and we have a moral obligation to speak out. Anyone who stays silent as this crime is being committed is an accessory to a crime."

Eli Usharov, a reporter for Israel's Channel 10 affirmed Shapira's version of the events, telling Haaretz that the takeover was executed with unnecessary brutality.

"They used a taser gun against Yonatan. He screamed and was dragged to the military boat," Usharov said, adding that both Yonatan and his brother Itamar were handcuffed.

The Channel 10 reporter also said that the activists managed to have a serious heart-to-heart conversation with the troops once they were all placed on board the military vessel, and that "overall the atmosphere was good."

Reuben Moscowitz, a Holocaust survivor who took part in the mission, expressed his disbelief that "Israeli soldiers would treat nine Jews this way. They just hit people."

"I as a Holocaust survivor cannot live with the fact that the State of Israel is imprisoning an entire people behind fences," Moscowitz said, adding that "it's just immoral."

"What happened to me in the Holocaust wakes me up every night and I hope we don't do the same thing to our neighbors," Moscowitz said, adding that he was comparing "what I went through during the Holocaust to what the besieged Palestinian children are going through."

************************************

Too bad more Israelis didn't speak up.



Around the Network

"What happened to me in the Holocaust wakes me up every night and I hope we don't do the same thing to our neighbors," Moscowitz said, adding that he was comparing "what I went through during the Holocaust to what the besieged Palestinian children are going through."

this summary everything pretty well ... so why nobody is making a big petition against Israel ?

We talk about the evil Iran, the evil Venezuela, the evil China, the evil Russia but no Israel ? why ?



Time to Work !

libellule said:

"What happened to me in the Holocaust wakes me up every night and I hope we don't do the same thing to our neighbors," Moscowitz said, adding that he was comparing "what I went through during the Holocaust to what the besieged Palestinian children are going through."

this summary everything pretty well ... so why nobody is making a big petition against Israel ?

We talk about the evil Iran, the evil Venezuela, the evil China, the evil Russia but no Israel ? why ?


that's right a lot of contries do bad things like israel but they get away with it



Because Venezuala, China, Russia, Iran are not USA's friend;..

And why waste time on Israël?  It is just an small country where you better don't choose a side. Chosing a side always lead to chosing a religion.



 

Lostplanet22 said:

Because Venezuala, China, Russia, Iran are not USA's friend;..

And why waste time on Israël?  It is just an small country where you better don't choose a side. Chosing a side always lead to chosing a religion.


No it doesn't. The conflict is over land not religion. There many Arab Christians who fight alongside their Muslim brethren, in fact a few of the resistance military groups where once lead by Christian Arabs.

Its just so happens that Israel is Jewish and Palestinians are predominantly Muslim, but that has nothing to do with the overall conflict beyond that Jewish claims to the land stem from their religious identity.

I hate it when people assume Islam/Judaism have been warring for centuries when its wholly inaccurate and in fact Jews lived best in Islamic lands until the first World War when the Zionist movement began to focus on Palestinian lands as their homeland. (btw, I know you didn't state it was an age old war)



Around the Network
superchunk said:
Lostplanet22 said:

Because Venezuala, China, Russia, Iran are not USA's friend;..

And why waste time on Israël?  It is just an small country where you better don't choose a side. Chosing a side always lead to chosing a religion.


No it doesn't. The conflict is over land not religion. There many Arab Christians who fight alongside their Muslim brethren, in fact a few of the resistance military groups where once lead by Christian Arabs.

Its just so happens that Israel is Jewish and Palestinians are predominantly Muslim, but that has nothing to do with the overall conflict beyond that Jewish claims to the land stem from their religious identity.

I hate it when people assume Islam/Judaism have been warring for centuries when its wholly inaccurate and in fact Jews lived best in Islamic lands until the first World War when the Zionist movement began to focus on Palestinian lands as their homeland. (btw, I know you didn't state it was an age old war)


I know the conflict is about land.  Where do I say it doesn't? 
Their is hardly any country in EU that is pro Israël by the simple fact that the muslim population will not like it. Jews are getting beaten up by Muslims in Europe because of Israêl, so yes if I tomorow say I am pro Israël I have a problem.

And yes their are plenty of muslims who see this conflict about religion rather than land..

Also in the USA/

Like the University California where a speech got disruped by muslims:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxwWf8WXBoI&feature=related



 

Lostplanet22 said:

Because Venezuala, China, Russia, Iran are not USA's friend;..


you got it !



Time to Work !

libellule said:

"What happened to me in the Holocaust wakes me up every night and I hope we don't do the same thing to our neighbors," Moscowitz said, adding that he was comparing "what I went through during the Holocaust to what the besieged Palestinian children are going through."

this summary everything pretty well ... so why nobody is making a big petition against Israel ?

We talk about the evil Iran, the evil Venezuela, the evil China, the evil Russia but no Israel ? why ?

because the USA likes Israel, so it can do whatever it sees fit, technically China is in the same position, people may talk about taking action against Israel or China, but as long as they are allied to the USA, its like coughing at a serial killer while he claims his latest victim.



Former members of the Israeli army saying that the Israeli army is acting well beyond both the political and religious boundaries it is faced with that it's a sin.

How do I have hard time believing this? 

Oh wait, I don't, because both Jewish belief and international law say what Israel does is god damned, mother ****ing illegal on so many levels it is mind blowing.

In modern-day respects the Israeli government is a bunch of thugs looking for people the extort, and anyone who blindly supports them is worth less than the pigs I won't eat.



You do not have the right to never be offended.

libellule said:

"What happened to me in the Holocaust wakes me up every night and I hope we don't do the same thing to our neighbors," Moscowitz said, adding that he was comparing "what I went through during the Holocaust to what the besieged Palestinian children are going through."

this summary everything pretty well ... so why nobody is making a big petition against Israel ?

We talk about the evil Iran, the evil Venezuela, the evil China, the evil Russia but no Israel ? why ?

The Zionist Jews use the Holocaust of 70 years ago to justify every single revenge attack. The Zionist main stream media covers up the truth that the Zionists are behind most of these terrorist acts. The Zions and Mossad the Jewish terrorist organisation who carries out the dirty work in the name of Zionist state of Israel. 

The Catholic Church is now headed by a former Hitler youth in Joseph Ratzinger aka Pope Bendict XVI. The Catholic Church supported the Nazis during World War II. Pius XII was a close friend of Adolf Hitler. 

6 million Jews were killed by the Nazis is what the Zionist Jews spin in propaganda over again. 6 million Jews of the 56 million predominately Christians were killed in World War II. All we ever hear is 6 million Jews killed in World War II in the Jewish Holocaust. What about the 50 million Christians who were killed in World War II?

66 million Russian citizens were butchered to death during the reign of Stalin by the Bolshevik Jews. That is never mentioned. Ok for a Zionist Jew to murder and butcher people in the name of God and that is never mentioned. When a Jew is killed it is main news. 

The Zionist Jews can get away with murdering people in the God's name and it is covered up or never mentioned. The Zions control the main stream media. 

Not all Jewish people are bad.  The Zionist Jews and Zionist Christians are scary pieces of work who have lots of power and influence over governments and financial banking institutions. Shadow power brokers are the faceless super rich elites who control the world. Governments are paper cut outs who are controlled by the same shadow power brokers. 

BTW: If you are  critical of the Jews you are labelled as Anti-Semitism in other words prejudice/racism against the Jews.