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yo_john117 on 18 September 2010
slowmo said:
yo_john117 said:
slowmo said:
Bullet100000 said:

Maybe it was a bad batch of DVD's I don't think it is a hardware issue. Even though the article say it is.


Actually I'm more inclined to say it is a hardware issue.  This is just the usual big seller that people associate their hardware failures with rather than a fault of the game.  It happens as you get people who haven't played much for a while suddenly ramping up the usage of their console when a game like Reach comes along.  A failing laser exhibits exactly these sort of faults before eventually going the "open tray" error route.

It doesn't matter how clean the disk is, if the laser is weak and/or not focusing properly then it will not read certain disks.  I've seen failing lasers read extremely scratched disks, yet fail to read new disks hundreds of times.

This is exactly what was happening to my 360 a couple of months ago...its a really easy fix though, just have to rip your 360 open and turn a screw a few millimeters (i think its called the DVD pot) and now my 360 reads just perfectly.


Well pot tweaking does indeed get lasers working again usually, the downside is you shorten the lifespan, then again if its dead whats to lose I guess lol.

I haven't heard anything about that.  What does it shorten?  The disc tray lifespan? or just the general lifespan of the console itself?



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yo_john117 on 18 September 2010
MARCUSDJACKSON said:

best looking halo ever is reach and now this?

Its an Xbox 360 problem, not a Halo Reach problem.



MARCUSDJACKSON on 18 September 2010
yo_john117 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:

best looking halo ever is reach and now this?

Its an Xbox 360 problem, not a Halo Reach problem.



did you haft tell me that nowing how i fill about the 360? just kidding. i figured that was the case. enjoying reach are you? i said it once and i'll say it again, i hated every halo before reach. its the best FPS this yr. haven't seen you here lately? i've been alittle m.i.a. my self.

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miz1q2w3e on 18 September 2010
ConnorJCP said:
miz1q2w3e said:
Acevil said:

This has been popping up more and more. It might end up similar to the final fantasy 13 ps3 disc read error (I wonder if they won), where it might end up in court if it bricks the console.

I've never heard of that one before, got a link or something?

Yea i wouldn't mind reading about that, sounds funny.

There you go! http://www.next-gen.biz/news/lawsuit-filed-over-ps3-final-fantasy-xiii-freezes

& btw, cool avatar!



ConnorJCP on 18 September 2010
miz1q2w3e said:
ConnorJCP said:
miz1q2w3e said:
Acevil said:

This has been popping up more and more. It might end up similar to the final fantasy 13 ps3 disc read error (I wonder if they won), where it might end up in court if it bricks the console.

I've never heard of that one before, got a link or something?

Yea i wouldn't mind reading about that, sounds funny.

There you go! http://www.next-gen.biz/news/lawsuit-filed-over-ps3-final-fantasy-xiii-freezes

& btw, cool avatar!

Thanks!



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miz1q2w3e on 18 September 2010
yo_john117 said:
slowmo said:

Well pot tweaking does indeed get lasers working again usually, the downside is you shorten the lifespan, then again if its dead whats to lose I guess lol.

I haven't heard anything about that.  What does it shorten?  The disc tray lifespan? or just the general lifespan of the console itself?

It shortens the actual laser's lifespan, nothing to do with the tray/console :p

my two cents: if it the laser's dead anyways, then who cares if you "shorten its lifespan" :D



thranx on 18 September 2010
miz1q2w3e said:
yo_john117 said:
slowmo said:

Well pot tweaking does indeed get lasers working again usually, the downside is you shorten the lifespan, then again if its dead whats to lose I guess lol.

I haven't heard anything about that.  What does it shorten?  The disc tray lifespan? or just the general lifespan of the console itself?

It shortens the actual laser's lifespan, nothing to do with the tray/console :p

my two cents: if it the laser's dead anyways, then who cares if you "shorten its lifespan" :D

I am swapping my disk out today and if that doesn't work I am going to try to adjust the POT. I'll update you guys if it works



slowmo on 18 September 2010
yo_john117 said:
slowmo said:
yo_john117 said:
slowmo said:
Bullet100000 said:

Maybe it was a bad batch of DVD's I don't think it is a hardware issue. Even though the article say it is.


Actually I'm more inclined to say it is a hardware issue.  This is just the usual big seller that people associate their hardware failures with rather than a fault of the game.  It happens as you get people who haven't played much for a while suddenly ramping up the usage of their console when a game like Reach comes along.  A failing laser exhibits exactly these sort of faults before eventually going the "open tray" error route.

It doesn't matter how clean the disk is, if the laser is weak and/or not focusing properly then it will not read certain disks.  I've seen failing lasers read extremely scratched disks, yet fail to read new disks hundreds of times.

This is exactly what was happening to my 360 a couple of months ago...its a really easy fix though, just have to rip your 360 open and turn a screw a few millimeters (i think its called the DVD pot) and now my 360 reads just perfectly.


Well pot tweaking does indeed get lasers working again usually, the downside is you shorten the lifespan, then again if its dead whats to lose I guess lol.

I haven't heard anything about that.  What does it shorten?  The disc tray lifespan? or just the general lifespan of the console itself?


Has another user posted, it shorens the lifespan of the laser.  By twisting that screw a few millimeters you're actually increasing the power the laser uses, this actually bruns the laser out quicker.  Quite often manufacturers err on the side of caution and lasers are calibrated so they have a long life so a small adjustment is usually fine.  It will not affect the consoles lifespan or any other part of the DVD drive, should the worst happen and you kill the laser a replacement is only around £10 so no big loss.



yo_john117 on 18 September 2010
MARCUSDJACKSON said:
yo_john117 said:
MARCUSDJACKSON said:

best looking halo ever is reach and now this?

Its an Xbox 360 problem, not a Halo Reach problem.



did you haft tell me that nowing how i fill about the 360? just kidding. i figured that was the case. enjoying reach are you? i said it once and i'll say it again, i hated every halo before reach. its the best FPS this yr. haven't seen you here lately? i've been alittle m.i.a. my self.

do you like the new danta

Ha yeah i've been playing a bunch of Halo Reach since it came out, so i'm pretty much only on this site once in a while now lol.

and whats the new danta?



yo_john117 on 18 September 2010
slowmo said:
yo_john117 said:
slowmo said:
yo_john117 said:
slowmo said:
Bullet100000 said:

Maybe it was a bad batch of DVD's I don't think it is a hardware issue. Even though the article say it is.


Actually I'm more inclined to say it is a hardware issue.  This is just the usual big seller that people associate their hardware failures with rather than a fault of the game.  It happens as you get people who haven't played much for a while suddenly ramping up the usage of their console when a game like Reach comes along.  A failing laser exhibits exactly these sort of faults before eventually going the "open tray" error route.

It doesn't matter how clean the disk is, if the laser is weak and/or not focusing properly then it will not read certain disks.  I've seen failing lasers read extremely scratched disks, yet fail to read new disks hundreds of times.

This is exactly what was happening to my 360 a couple of months ago...its a really easy fix though, just have to rip your 360 open and turn a screw a few millimeters (i think its called the DVD pot) and now my 360 reads just perfectly.


Well pot tweaking does indeed get lasers working again usually, the downside is you shorten the lifespan, then again if its dead whats to lose I guess lol.

I haven't heard anything about that.  What does it shorten?  The disc tray lifespan? or just the general lifespan of the console itself?


Has another user posted, it shorens the lifespan of the laser.  By twisting that screw a few millimeters you're actually increasing the power the laser uses, this actually bruns the laser out quicker.  Quite often manufacturers err on the side of caution and lasers are calibrated so they have a long life so a small adjustment is usually fine.  It will not affect the consoles lifespan or any other part of the DVD drive, should the worst happen and you kill the laser a replacement is only around £10 so no big loss.

Ok yeah thats not too bad.