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Rath said:


You're being a bit too harsh on Lord of the Rings in my opinion, it is actually taken seriously by scholars as one of the great works of literature. There is a journal 'Tolkien Studies' dedicated to his works.

I don't believe that you should consider Asimov a bad author without having read his works and I don't believe you should take people seriously who consider certain genres to be inferior. I mean the romance genre has a lot of trash in it but Jane Austen's work is beautiful.

Well you gotta admit that Jane Austen is an exception to the rule. And despite those Tolkies Studies may be due to the fact that it's a very influential book (most fantasy writers have copied it's universe). The books still has a shallow story and characters. It's entertaining, but that's mostly all you get out of the book.

As for Asimov, I won't pass judgement 'till I read one of his books.



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sapphi_snake said:
Rath said:


You're being a bit too harsh on Lord of the Rings in my opinion, it is actually taken seriously by scholars as one of the great works of literature. There is a journal 'Tolkien Studies' dedicated to his works.

I don't believe that you should consider Asimov a bad author without having read his works and I don't believe you should take people seriously who consider certain genres to be inferior. I mean the romance genre has a lot of trash in it but Jane Austen's work is beautiful.

Well you gotta admit that Jane Austen is an exception to the rule. And despite those Tolkies Studies may be due to the fact that it's a very influential book (most fantasy writers have copied it's universe). The books still has a shallow story and characters. It's entertaining, but that's mostly all you get out of the book.

As for Asimov, I won't pass judgement 'till I read one of his books.

As is Tolkien the exception to the rule on fantasy being, in general, trash. His works are actually being taken seriously as one of the great works of literature of the 20th century which is why there is a literary journal on them, you're allowed to have a low opinion of it personally but that doesn't make it trash.



Rath said:
sapphi_snake said:
Rath said:


You're being a bit too harsh on Lord of the Rings in my opinion, it is actually taken seriously by scholars as one of the great works of literature. There is a journal 'Tolkien Studies' dedicated to his works.

I don't believe that you should consider Asimov a bad author without having read his works and I don't believe you should take people seriously who consider certain genres to be inferior. I mean the romance genre has a lot of trash in it but Jane Austen's work is beautiful.

Well you gotta admit that Jane Austen is an exception to the rule. And despite those Tolkies Studies may be due to the fact that it's a very influential book (most fantasy writers have copied it's universe). The books still has a shallow story and characters. It's entertaining, but that's mostly all you get out of the book.

As for Asimov, I won't pass judgement 'till I read one of his books.

As is Tolkien the exception to the rule on fantasy being, in general, trash. His works are actually being taken seriously as one of the great works of literature of the 20th century which is why there is a literary journal on them, you're allowed to have a low opinion of it personally but that doesn't make it trash.

I never called it trash. It's not the Twilight series afterall. I liked The Lord of the Rings. I found it very entertaining (and at the time I read it it was probably my favorite book). but I now realise that it's far from the greates literary achievement ever.



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That's an awful list. It's like IGN just researched the most acclaimed Sci-fi movies, then played raffle with them.

The 2 biggest mistakes that I can see in there is:

- A complete raffle of some of the most acclaimed Sci-fi movies.

- Why in the hell did they put Avatar in there?! The movie's just mediocre.

- Why is Brazil so low?! One of the most unique and brilliant movies I've ever seen.

- No Star Wars movie should be in the top ten.

- I also wouldn't put some of the older movies so high, or even on the list. It's true that some aspects of them are timeless, but cinematics, sound, and many other qualities have evolved beyond them. 'A Clockwork Orange' is an example of this: you can't deny the impact of it's violence and social constructs, but the cinematics and camera work in the movie is incredibly outdated, making it's age appear in an obvious manner.

EDIT: I Forgot about WALL-E, Gattaca and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind! Those 3 definitely deserve to be in the top 25.



shio said:

That's an awful list. It's like IGN just researched the most acclaimed Sci-fi movies, then played raffle with them.

The 2 biggest mistakes that I can see in there is:

- A complete raffle of some of the most acclaimed Sci-fi movies.

- Why in the hell did they put Avatar in there?! The movie's just mediocre.

- Why is Brazil so low?! One of the most unique and brilliant movies I've ever seen.

- No Star Wars movie should be in the top ten.

- I also wouldn't put some of the older movies so high, or even on the list. It's true that some aspects of them are timeless, but cinematics, sound, and many other qualities have evolved beyond them. 'A Clockwork Orange' is an example of this: you can't deny the impact of it's violence and social constructs, but the cinematics and camera work in the movie is incredibly outdated, making it's age appear in an obvious manner.

You're kidding me on A Clockwork Orange, right?  Outdated camera work?  The film remains more innovative and interesting in its camera and composition than pretty much any film released recently.  The opening steadycam shot of Alex alone outclasses most modern films poor editing and composition.

Agree on Brazil and Avatar and Star Wars though, so hopefully the Clockwork Orange comments are just a blip.

EDIT: and you mention Gattaca, etc. which is also spot on!  You've got to be kidding about Clockwork.



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Reasonable said:
shio said:

That's an awful list. It's like IGN just researched the most acclaimed Sci-fi movies, then played raffle with them.

The 2 biggest mistakes that I can see in there is:

- A complete raffle of some of the most acclaimed Sci-fi movies.

- Why in the hell did they put Avatar in there?! The movie's just mediocre.

- Why is Brazil so low?! One of the most unique and brilliant movies I've ever seen.

- No Star Wars movie should be in the top ten.

- I also wouldn't put some of the older movies so high, or even on the list. It's true that some aspects of them are timeless, but cinematics, sound, and many other qualities have evolved beyond them. 'A Clockwork Orange' is an example of this: you can't deny the impact of it's violence and social constructs, but the cinematics and camera work in the movie is incredibly outdated, making it's age appear in an obvious manner.

You're kidding me on A Clockwork Orange, right?  Outdated camera work?  The film is remains more innovative and interesting in its camera and composition than pretty much any film released recently.  The opening steadycam shot of Alex alone outclasses most modern films poor editing and composition.

Agree on Brazil and Avatar and Star Wars though, so hopefully the Clockwork Orange comments are just a blip.

I just barely saw any camera work. The problem is that while steady shots worked in several parts (just like the wonderful scene of him being experimented on), it just didn't help convey the violent nature of his gang's brutality when they were committing the crimes. This is a problem for almost all movies made before the 80's, at least the ones I've seen.



A half of the list is movies I couldn't care less for but #1 is very well deserved, Blade Runner is pure gem.

The list misses Twelve Monkeys, Inception and that crazy Kin-Dza-Dza though :(