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ultraslick said:

I would argue that Republicans are realists. They see things for what they are. They see a nice race car, they buy it.

They see the piece of quality electronics which is built by an electronics hardware manufacturer and buy it and love it.

The demographics may be skewed within the world of video game forums, but I would argue that Republicans do not like the 360, They instead like the PS3!

There is a quote that goes somehting like this:

Show me a young republican and I will show you someone without a heart.

Show me an older democrat and I will show you someone without a brain.

 

The shallow view of republicans is that they are all gun toting, war loving, hicks. There for the 360 is for them.

In reality it is hard to say who likes what..

Other than that democrats certainly do like the wii.

 

Having a functional society surely is showing having brain. In my opinion, its worth more than paying less taxes. About the quote, you can have both a heart and a brain, dont you think? You also can be more or less realist whether your right or left. I think that realizing you have society problems and finding solutions to fix them is as much realistic as getting richer. What do you think?



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theprof00 said:

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that all the staunch republicans on vgc are diehard 360 fans?

It makes sense in a mercantilist nationalism kind of way.

But they all love Halo too... maybe they like killing filthy stinking aliens that cross the intergalactic border...

food for thought.

 

 

 

 

 

and yes I'm just joking...

but they are all 360 fans! Spooky!

Voted for Obama, Staunch 360 fan.

Voting for Reid (live in Vegas).  Still a staunch 360 fan.

Not everyone on the 360 is republican, but, we are much more conservative than Europe.  So if this is coming from a socialist point of view, ya, we are pretty defensive when it come to our economy.



V:  And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn't be? War, terror, disease. There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Fear got the best of you, and in your panic you turned to the now high chancellor, Adam Sutler. He promised you order, he promised you peace, and all he demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent. Last night I sought to end that silence.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if there more Republicans on the 360 than PS3, and the same with Democrats.  More on the 360 than PS3.

All because of one number:  10,000,000

Hopefully you all understand what I'm talking about.



V:  And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn't be? War, terror, disease. There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Fear got the best of you, and in your panic you turned to the now high chancellor, Adam Sutler. He promised you order, he promised you peace, and all he demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent. Last night I sought to end that silence.

 

theprof00 said:

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that all the staunch republicans on vgc are diehard 360 fans?

It makes sense in a mercantilist nationalism kind of way.

But they all love Halo too... maybe they like killing filthy stinking aliens that cross the intergalactic border...

food for thought.

 

 

 

 

 

and yes I'm just joking...

but they are all 360 fans! Spooky!

I never noticed that...I am not a Repulblican, but I am a Conservative. I guess you could make the case that Republicans/Conservatives have a knack for sniffing out a good value.

 

Lazthelost said:

No sir, I consider myself a loving, caring, and progressive Christian. I definitely lean towards the far left though. As a Christian I really believe people should be treated fairly and equally. Everyone deserves a chance.

But man do I love my 360, I like my PS3 as well but to me my Xbox 360 fulfills me. What a strange assumption you have about 360 owners.

In America, everybody has a chance, it is up to them whether or not they will take it. Also, if you really were about equality, you would be for a fair tax where everybody is taxed the same amount. You wouldn't be for the government stealing money from the rich to give to the poor (Or paying for votes with other people's money, or my personal favorite, forcing everybody to be charitable) No, you would be for churches and non profits taking donations from the rich (who would inevitably donate more if they had more to give) and would be for the government staying out of our way and letting the natural system of capitalism work. /rant

 

thx1139 said:

I am a huge 360 fan and as far away from Republican as you can get and getting further away everyday.   I am also in the upper 2% that the Bush tax cuts benefit and you know what I dont need the help.  A little bit of extra truth about us in the top 2% when you cut our taxes we save the money for our family. We dont go out and spend it.

You may, but most of that upper bracket will re-invest in their business and as a result will grow jobs.

Icyedge said:

 

Having a functional society surely is showing having brain. In my opinion, its worth more than paying less taxes. About the quote, you can have both a heart and a brain, dont you think? You also can be more or less realist whether your right or left. I think that realizing you have society problems and finding solutions to fix them is as much realistic as getting richer. What do you think?

So your idea of a functioning society is 11% unemployment (last time I checked , and that's not counting those who have part time jobs but are looking for full time, those who have stopped being eligeable for unemployment, and those who have given up looking for work, which also brought the total up to somewhere around 20%).

About his quote, it is true that one can have a heart and a brain, but when it comes to the two extremes of politics, his quote is accurate.

I believe that allowing the capitalist system to work with minimal governmental interferance is the key to having a functional society.



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In America,(1) everybody has a chance, it is up to them whether or not they will take it. Also, if you really were about equality, (2) you would be for a fair tax where everybody is taxed the same amount. You wouldn't be for the government stealing money from the rich to give to the poor (Or paying for votes with other people's money, or my personal favorite, (3)forcing everybody to be charitable) No, you would be for churches and non profits taking donations from the rich (who would inevitably donate more if they had more to give) and would be for the government staying out of our way and letting the natural system of capitalism work. /rant

(4)You may, but most of that upper bracket will re-invest in their business and as a result will grow jobs.

(5)So your idea of a functioning society is 11% unemployment (last time I checked , and that's not counting those who have part time jobs but are looking for full time, those who have stopped being eligeable for unemployment, and those who have given up looking for work, which also brought the total up to somewhere around 20%).

(6)I believe that allowing the capitalist system to work with minimal governmental interferance is the key to having a functional society.

1.  Everybody does have a chance.  It's only called chance.  Many of the rich in today's economy did not work for it, it was handed down to them from their parents, grand parents, and so on and so forth.  That’s not saying that no one has gone from rags to riches, but those stories are few and far in between

2.  Sorry, but if everyone was charged the same amount, no one would be able to pay for anything.  What were our taxes in the 1950's?  Those were one of our best times ever.  1990's?  Again, one of our best times ever.  The 50's had a ‘ Â income tax on the richest people in the U.S., and you know what happened?  We flourished.  Today?  we tax our rich 5.  We have THEM run THEM selves.  We don't watch them.  Of course we put little tickets here and there if the mess up, but still, they are self functioning.  Have you ever heard of the main reason why we are in this mess? 

Republicans probably will trace it back to when President Clinton signed a bill forcing lending companies to allow the poor to live in a home.  What the Bill did not cover was what happened between 2000-2009, literally, that is when this whole thing started and ended (9 years it took).  What happened was that lending companies were given these rules, but they were to follow their own when it came to picking who get's what and how much it will cost them.  The committee to watch over these lending organizations?  Non-governmental private groups.  Now, private lenders had the ability to force these non-governmental private groups into doing what they needed them to do, making certain investments possible.  Don’t believe me?  Look up a non-partisan source.

Which brings me to the current conclusion of that history lesson, we, the poor, were allowed to take 200,000-400,000 dollar loans in order to pay for our houses.  But with an income of only 20,000 a year, maybe 30,000 if lucky, this was all possible.  Remember, the government willingly said it was ok to NOT watch these businesses.  So the bubble began to become bigger and bigger.

3.  If everyone was charitable, this would be an awesome world.  But no one is.  Do you know what amount of charity it would take to end world poverty?   From High income countries only, they would need to basically donate 3-4 percent of their income.  Do you know what the U.S. donates?  .10 percent.  that is just from government aid.  When you look at actual charities, whoa doggy, you got to watch out.  With the government AND charities combine, the U.S. donates .14 of our income to end poverty.  So... I would gladly steal from the mouths of decadence.

You look at yourself and go, "God, my money is being taken to be given to the poor" but the poor need it more than you do.

4.  Do you have ANY proof of the mass majority of the rich investing back into the U.S.?  They won't invest in us for manufacturing, because they do so in China.  They won't invest in us for education, because of schools systems are underfunded so the dropout rate in High School and Higher education is at a high.  We look left and right for some solace, some place to invest, and you know where we need it?  In our education.  We will never be the producing country we once world, but our people should be the smartest.  Now we are below the top ten most educated countries in the world.  Why?  because our people don't want to pay for education when it's put in the form of taxes, and then when you show the middle class and the poor how much private schooling costs, that isn't much of a answer either.

The rich do not invest in this country, and have not for the past twenty years.  Because what they need to invest in is education, because it is our only way to stay at the top.

5.  We would have a %9 national unemployment rate regardless of who was in power.  And ya, we have a %9 unemployment rate.  Now, I live in Vegas, so it isn’t hard to understand unemployment.  We have the highest in the country.  It isn’t hard to understand foreclosure rates either.  But no one who has done their home work looks at Harry Reid and says, "you lost my house, you lowered my taxes, you lost my job," only those who have no where left to go and must blame someone on the way to poverty.  It's how we deal with things, even though sadly it is how we vote too, with our emotions.

6.  We are called a free enterprise.  Look it up in a dictionary.  We have been a free enterprise since Alexander Hamilton.  Don't know who that is, please look him up.  He's the reason for the hated taxes, and the reason this country is sovereign.  Do you know what makes a country sovereign?  It's being able to pay off one's debts.  Whenever a country goes through a deep depression or recession, the one that can pay of its debts turns out the strongest.

 



V:  And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn't be? War, terror, disease. There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Fear got the best of you, and in your panic you turned to the now high chancellor, Adam Sutler. He promised you order, he promised you peace, and all he demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent. Last night I sought to end that silence.

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theprof00 said:

Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that all the staunch republicans on vgc are diehard 360 fans?

It makes sense in a mercantilist nationalism kind of way.

But they all love Halo too... maybe they like killing filthy stinking aliens that cross the intergalactic border...

food for thought.

 

 

 

 

 

and yes I'm just joking...

but they are all 360 fans! Spooky!

I never noticed that...I am not a Repulblican, but I am a Conservative. I guess you could make the case that Republicans/Conservatives have a knack for sniffing out a good value.

 

Lazthelost said:

No sir, I consider myself a loving, caring, and progressive Christian. I definitely lean towards the far left though. As a Christian I really believe people should be treated fairly and equally. Everyone deserves a chance.

But man do I love my 360, I like my PS3 as well but to me my Xbox 360 fulfills me. What a strange assumption you have about 360 owners.

In America, everybody has a chance, it is up to them whether or not they will take it. Also, if you really were about equality, you would be for a fair tax where everybody is taxed the same amount. You wouldn't be for the government stealing money from the rich to give to the poor (Or paying for votes with other people's money, or my personal favorite, forcing everybody to be charitable) No, you would be for churches and non profits taking donations from the rich (who would inevitably donate more if they had more to give) and would be for the government staying out of our way and letting the natural system of capitalism work. /rant

 

thx1139 said:

I am a huge 360 fan and as far away from Republican as you can get and getting further away everyday.   I am also in the upper 2% that the Bush tax cuts benefit and you know what I dont need the help.  A little bit of extra truth about us in the top 2% when you cut our taxes we save the money for our family. We dont go out and spend it.

You may, but most of that upper bracket will re-invest in their business and as a result will grow jobs.

Icyedge said:

 

Having a functional society surely is showing having brain. In my opinion, its worth more than paying less taxes. About the quote, you can have both a heart and a brain, dont you think? You also can be more or less realist whether your right or left. I think that realizing you have society problems and finding solutions to fix them is as much realistic as getting richer. What do you think?

So your idea of a functioning society is 11% unemployment (last time I checked , and that's not counting those who have part time jobs but are looking for full time, those who have stopped being eligeable for unemployment, and those who have given up looking for work, which also brought the total up to somewhere around 20%).

About his quote, it is true that one can have a heart and a brain, but when it comes to the two extremes of politics, his quote is accurate.

I believe that allowing the capitalist system to work with minimal governmental interferance is the key to having a functional society.

Between, I live in Canada, we pay more taxes than in the states and we have less society problems. When we impose a way of living, we also need to support those who have trouble fitting in, either its mentaly or physically. If you dont, its a vicious circle. People will find other way to survive. By offering program, like reduce educational cost, free healthcare, sufficient income in case of employment lost ect. the same individuals can have the tools to sort their issues and add to the society again and more. Society with big disparity between riches and poor, decline sooner than later. Just look at history. Dont get me wrong, I like money, and im not saying we should be communist. But you need a balance if you want a functioning society.



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I am a conservative, and the 360 is the only current gen console I DON'T own.

I do not like Halo or FPS games in general.... although I am looking forward to kicking ass and chewing bubblegum (on the PC of course).