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routsounmanman said:

Admitting being gay is a much harder endeavor, believe me. Your entire life is turned upside down and even people you thought as friends and family turn hostile or avoid you.

I say come out and filter out of your life those that don't really love you, even your family. If they truly love you, they won't let issues like religion stand in the way. Screw the rest. Be who you want to be; we only get to live once.

Beleive it or not but most people dislike atheists more than they dislike gays (check opinion polls). I actually talked to a gay Christian and he didn't like me very much.



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sapphi_snake said:
routsounmanman said:

Admitting being gay is a much harder endeavor, believe me. Your entire life is turned upside down and even people you thought as friends and family turn hostile or avoid you.

I say come out and filter out of your life those that don't really love you, even your family. If they truly love you, they won't let issues like religion stand in the way. Screw the rest. Be who you want to be; we only get to live once.

Beleive it or not but most people dislike atheists more than they dislike gays (check opinion polls). I actually talked to a gay Christian and he didn't like me very much.

No way it's like this here in Greece. Although very religious as a nation , anyone I've talked to has almost no problem with me being an atheist.

Also, how does being an atheist affect you life pretending to believe in something else? You just go to the church once a year, say a prayer in front of people. Try doing that while being gay. Try telling everyone to back off when you become 20 and everyone constantly asks you why you don't have a girlfriend yet.

Believe me, it's 1,000,000 times harder.



routsounmanman said:

No way it's like this here in Greece. Although very religious as a nation , anyone I've talked to has almost no problem with me being an atheist.

Also, how does being an atheist affect you life pretending to believe in something else? You just go to the church once a year, say a prayer in front of people. Try doing that while being gay. Try telling everyone to back off when you become 20 and everyone constantly asks you why you don't have a girlfriend yet.

Believe me, it's 1,000,000 times harder.

Well I guess I just like dishonesty. Don't like pretending. I find it stressfull. And I feel like going against my principles by pretending to be a Christian.

And it's kinda ironic that Greece is such a homophobic country now. All things considering.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

lestatdark said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
dtewi said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
Teo said:

I hope you realize there is no such thing as magic. Lay off the videogames dude.


LMFAO!Couldn't have said it better myself


I just to say something.

I am disgusted. Absolutely and undeniably disgusted by you two.

You don't get to pass judgment on someone else's beliefs.

How dare you insult someone for what they think. Faith requires belief in something that may be extraordinary. Christianity maintains that someone could turn water into wine which violates the laws of science. But I don't go around insulting them. Religion does not strictly adhere to the laws of science, and you don't get to act so haughty because of this.

And I hope you know how ignorant you sound. They don't believe in magic like Harry Potter. It's completely different.

"dtewi, He's a font of misplaced rage. Name your cliché; Mother held him too much or not enough, last picked at kickball, late night sneaky uncle, whatever. Now he's so angry moments of levity actually cause him pain; gives him headaches. Happiness, for that gentleman, hurts. " 

Now that we got that out of the way (gotta love putting people's names in that quote from con air) stop being so over dramatic nd get over it. People on the site make comments  a "hell" of a lot worse about Christianity than what Teo said about Wicca and you don't see me pissing my pants and crying about it or getting offended.

His comment was hilarious simple as that, and if you look into some of the spells they believe they can do (they also believe in black magic, they just dont practice it for certain moral reasons apparently) then his comment doesnt seem so disgusting.



Actually on this site, I've seen far worse comments regarding religion as a whole than just Christianity, Wicca or any other religion. Again, his comment didn't mean anything to me, it's just that it's kinda pathetic and ignorant telling someone's belief is due to playing videogames. Shows how little Teo knows about Wicca.

As for Wicca believing in Black Magic, you're far, far away from what Wicca is. We abhor anything that has to do with Black Magic. If you're trying to peg us as some kind of satanists, then you're no better than Teo in your lack of knowledge of what is to be a Wicca. 

I hope that you lay off what Christians usually teach of Wicca before you make those kind of assumptions.

See, your missing the point though, it was more of a joke he made (maybe tasteless to you) but it true in a sense because  the whole magical part of it ( spell books,ect) is pretty far fetched.

Also please dont put words in my mouth. If you noticed in my previous post I wrote that Wiccan's  "believe" in  black magic (which isnt real either) ,but they dont practice it due to they're own moral reasons as apart of their beliefs (I do my research before I comment)

I don't think wiccan's are satanists either, I know a few who are into the whole gaia worship thing but i diont know if all of them belive in that or whatever.



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sapphi_snake said:
joora said:
sapphi_snake said:

Can you imagine your cease of existence on this world, and are you satisfied where yoi imagine yourself after that?

You die, you stop functioning (like a broken machine), you decompose and become worm food. That's all. The ideea of an afterlife is a nice thought, but it's only something that makes death less scary. It's notgrounded in reality though.


So, how do you exactly cope with the fact, that all experiences and your memories (playing and finishing great games for example), all your emotional and spiritual achievments(not religious-related, but more in the way of finding your place in society, friendships, loves, and so on), in short your whole world, will simply be erased with your death, like it never existed?

I think that logic and science can explain lots of things, but what's with the menaing of life?

Well I learned to be contempt with the way things are (richardhutnik must be proud ). It ain't pretty, but that's just how things are.


Content is the word here, meaning being able to accept something as it is.  Contempt means to hold things in low regards :).  Hey, maybe you do meant this :)



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sapphi_snake said:
routsounmanman said:

Admitting being gay is a much harder endeavor, believe me. Your entire life is turned upside down and even people you thought as friends and family turn hostile or avoid you.

I say come out and filter out of your life those that don't really love you, even your family. If they truly love you, they won't let issues like religion stand in the way. Screw the rest. Be who you want to be; we only get to live once.

Beleive it or not but most people dislike atheists more than they dislike gays (check opinion polls). I actually talked to a gay Christian and he didn't like me very much.

Gay christian? well there's the oxymoron of the day,lol (considering in christian beliefs homosexuality is immoral and unnatural) also you can blame a dislike for atheists on people like Bill Maher, who act like complete ignorant assholes and think there so much smarter than everyone because they don't belive in anything. 



" Rebellion Against Tyrants Is Obedience To God"

Nirvana_Nut85 said:
lestatdark said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
dtewi said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:
Teo said:

I hope you realize there is no such thing as magic. Lay off the videogames dude.


LMFAO!Couldn't have said it better myself


I just to say something.

I am disgusted. Absolutely and undeniably disgusted by you two.

You don't get to pass judgment on someone else's beliefs.

How dare you insult someone for what they think. Faith requires belief in something that may be extraordinary. Christianity maintains that someone could turn water into wine which violates the laws of science. But I don't go around insulting them. Religion does not strictly adhere to the laws of science, and you don't get to act so haughty because of this.

And I hope you know how ignorant you sound. They don't believe in magic like Harry Potter. It's completely different.

"dtewi, He's a font of misplaced rage. Name your cliché; Mother held him too much or not enough, last picked at kickball, late night sneaky uncle, whatever. Now he's so angry moments of levity actually cause him pain; gives him headaches. Happiness, for that gentleman, hurts. " 

Now that we got that out of the way (gotta love putting people's names in that quote from con air) stop being so over dramatic nd get over it. People on the site make comments  a "hell" of a lot worse about Christianity than what Teo said about Wicca and you don't see me pissing my pants and crying about it or getting offended.

His comment was hilarious simple as that, and if you look into some of the spells they believe they can do (they also believe in black magic, they just dont practice it for certain moral reasons apparently) then his comment doesnt seem so disgusting.



Actually on this site, I've seen far worse comments regarding religion as a whole than just Christianity, Wicca or any other religion. Again, his comment didn't mean anything to me, it's just that it's kinda pathetic and ignorant telling someone's belief is due to playing videogames. Shows how little Teo knows about Wicca.

As for Wicca believing in Black Magic, you're far, far away from what Wicca is. We abhor anything that has to do with Black Magic. If you're trying to peg us as some kind of satanists, then you're no better than Teo in your lack of knowledge of what is to be a Wicca. 

I hope that you lay off what Christians usually teach of Wicca before you make those kind of assumptions.

See, your missing the point though, it was more of a joke he made (maybe tasteless to you) but it true in a sense because  the whole magical part of it ( spell books,ect) is pretty far fetched.

Also please dont put words in my mouth. If you noticed in my previous post I wrote that Wiccan's  "believe" in  black magic (which isnt real either) ,but they dont practice it due to they're own moral reasons as apart of their beliefs (I do my research before I comment)

I don't think wiccan's are satanists either, I know a few who are into the whole gaia worship thing but i diont know if all of them belive in that or whatever.


Sorry for the misunderstanding from my part, regarding your comments in Black Magic. I've seen quite a few commentaries before, pegging Wiccans as Satanists or worse due to that, and I get a bit overly defensive when it comes to that matter.

Yeah, there are some who follow the roots of Gaia worship, since there are various branches in Wicca (Gardenian Wicca, Traditional Wicca, etc.). I follow the more traditional path, the duothestic belief of the Triple Goddess and the Horned God.

I understand that some of the things Wiccans believe are a bit farfetched, but ain't that the same for all religions? I guess it all boils down to what your inner faith believes to be "true" for yourself.



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richardhutnik said:
sapphi_snake said:
joora said:
sapphi_snake said:

Can you imagine your cease of existence on this world, and are you satisfied where yoi imagine yourself after that?

You die, you stop functioning (like a broken machine), you decompose and become worm food. That's all. The ideea of an afterlife is a nice thought, but it's only something that makes death less scary. It's notgrounded in reality though.


So, how do you exactly cope with the fact, that all experiences and your memories (playing and finishing great games for example), all your emotional and spiritual achievments(not religious-related, but more in the way of finding your place in society, friendships, loves, and so on), in short your whole world, will simply be erased with your death, like it never existed?

I think that logic and science can explain lots of things, but what's with the menaing of life?

Well I learned to be contempt with the way things are (richardhutnik must be proud ). It ain't pretty, but that's just how things are.


Content is the word here, meaning being able to accept something as it is.  Contempt means to hold things in low regards :).  Hey, maybe you do meant this :)

I meant to say "content" not "contempt". I'm definately viewing you with contempt right now though.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

Nirvana_Nut85 said:
sapphi_snake said:
routsounmanman said:

Admitting being gay is a much harder endeavor, believe me. Your entire life is turned upside down and even people you thought as friends and family turn hostile or avoid you.

I say come out and filter out of your life those that don't really love you, even your family. If they truly love you, they won't let issues like religion stand in the way. Screw the rest. Be who you want to be; we only get to live once.

Beleive it or not but most people dislike atheists more than they dislike gays (check opinion polls). I actually talked to a gay Christian and he didn't like me very much.

Gay christian? well there's the oxymoron of the day,lol (considering in christian beliefs homosexuality is immoral and unnatural) also you can blame a dislike for atheists on people like Bill Maher, who act like complete ignorant assholes and think there so much smarter than everyone because they don't belive in anything. 

Well he certainly was a self loathing individual, I must admit that. LOL @ the unnatural part.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

trunkswd said:

I'm late to the thread, but I know what you are going through. Half of my family knows at this point, my mom and her side knows (who I found out are mostly agnostic or atheist), but my Dad and his side of the family (who are extremely roman catholic) I haven't told, but at this point some of them should have figured it out. A few of them actually just added me on facebook and I am sure it is about to spread. The thing is if they were to ever ask I would just tell them. I have learned it is better to be honest than to lie.

Nice to see some people still value honesty.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)