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thelifatree on 25 August 2010
Cypher1980 said:
thelifatree said:
Cypher1980 said:
thelifatree said:
mitlar37 said:

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/  11% marketshare (total revenue - not just "top 20") after 4 years on the market. And I have yet to see a pc game on Blu-Ray.

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If I recall the adoption rate to dvd on PC was slow at first as well. I don't know how they compare... but even the KOTOR's on PC were all on CD's I don't really the format really taking off until the start this console gen or maybe a lil before.

how long was it until dvd's were the norm on pc? if I recall metal gear solid 2 was one of the first games (and badly ported) on the PC.

Also, the manufacturing costs... most games don't take up that much space. Say Mass Effect 2 it has 2 dvd's. Would it be cheaper for them to manufacture it on 2 dvd's or 1 blu ray?

Plus I'd add, that Digital Distribution is more appropriate for games on PC. as games do not take up the 30gb-50gb, the High Def video and audio does for Blu Ray movies.

 

From memory the DVD's started to become the norm around 2003. Prior to this a lot of games came out on CD for two reasons.

100 percent compatibility

The games fitted quite comfortably on a CD or two. A DVD was overkill.

Perhaps more telling is that in 1998 most new PC's came with a DVD ROM.

Now even today most new PC's dont come with a Blu Ray drive. Thats a BIG difference in adoption.

Most of reasons. Apply for Blu Ray as well.

most games come out on DVD's for reasons

100 percent compatibility.
Most games fit quite nicely on to a DVD or two. Blu-Ray is overkill... like I previosly stated.
Not most, mid-high end computers did. that means $1000 Compare it to post $1000 dollar computers of blu-ray I'm sure it's less. but that's to be expected. As it's competing with DD as well
http://news.cnet.com/CD-ROM-prices-plummeting/2100-1001_3-209603.html


Well I can only talk for the UK. But I worked for a computer manufacturer at the time. Top 5 UK and we dropped CD drives in 1998 unless specifically requested by the end user in response to the competitors doing the same.

I dont know where you are based but I doubt your country was more than 6 months behind.


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Gamerace on 25 August 2010

Interesting read.   Not really saying anything that we don't already know.   Certainly Blu-ray adoption is slower than Sony and co would have liked and already being replaced by digital distribution.

I can't forsee Blu-ray ever having the market the way DVD (and VHS prior to that) did.    It's just too little (improvement), too late (physical formats on way out).  But then I was saying that in '06

 



 

Wiintendo on 25 August 2010

Back in April, Sony President Ryoji Chubachi projected that its Blu-ray Disc format would garner 50 percent of DVD market share by the end of 2008.

 

current market share, Blu Ray to DVD. 

 Blue Ray is the smaller part of graph being eaten by PacMan



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Wiintendo on 25 August 2010

 

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Icyedge on 25 August 2010


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Icyedge on 25 August 2010



Icyedge on 25 August 2010
Wiintendo said:

 

Back in April, Sony President Ryoji Chubachi projected that its Blu-ray Disc format would garner 50 percent of DVD market share by the end of 2008.

 

current market share, Blu Ray to DVD. 

 Blue Ray is the smaller part of graph being eaten by PacMan


Your posting info from first quarter 2009, the industry is growing so fast that its already very old numbers. first quarter of 2010 market share is at 12.3%.

http://hd.engadget.com/2010/04/05/1st-quarter-blu-ray-sales-up-68-percent-over-last-year/



Wiintendo on 25 August 2010
Icyedge said:
Wiintendo said:

 

Back in April, Sony President Ryoji Chubachi projected that its Blu-ray Disc format would garner 50 percent of DVD market share by the end of 2008.

 

current market share, Blu Ray to DVD. 

 Blue Ray is the smaller part of graph being eaten by PacMan


Your posting info from first quarter 2009, the industry is growing so fast that its already very old numbers. first quarter of 2010 market share is at 16%.

http://hd.engadget.com/2010/04/05/1st-quarter-blu-ray-sales-up-68-percent-over-last-year/

Blu-ray Market Share and Revenue Down for Week Ending August 15th

http://www.blu-raystats.com/NewsLog/topics/news/market-share/

While the Blu-ray market share was still in double figures, it was down to 11% for the week ending August 15th, according to Home Media Magazine.



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Icyedge on 25 August 2010


 


Sorry the graph I posted was 1 week only, as you did. Its 12.3% percent over 9% same quarter last year, the article is for the full quarter so you can refer to it, the graph was for one week only tough.



Cypher1980 on 25 August 2010

I just checked on Dells website in the UK and the defacto Optical Drive is still DVD.

WTF Dell is meant to be a BluRay supporter !