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TheRealMafoo said:
Doobie_wop said:

Fighting on America's side has got to be pretty hard, when their home countries are being invaded and thousands of people are dying in the middle east =/


Last I checked, there are millions of Muslims who's home country, is the US. There are thousands of Muslims that re-enlist in the military on the US side, to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan.

You complain about the media twisting the facts, and yet you fall victim to it all at the same time.

If you moved to Australia from the US, your family is still living in the US and a war had just started between the two countries. Australia has invaded the US and killed thousands of people and has devastated the country for close to a  decade. People you know have died, towns you used to live in are now destroyed and the country you currently live in hate your guts. Are you telling me that you would still support Australia? You wouldn't have any sort of problem with what Australia is doing to the US? Not even that little bit of negativity?

I also never said the media was twisting facts, I said that it's common for most media distributors to post controversial topics and topics that most of the country would agree with, because those topics would get alot more viewers and readers. 



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Doobie_wop said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Doobie_wop said:

Fighting on America's side has got to be pretty hard, when their home countries are being invaded and thousands of people are dying in the middle east =/


Last I checked, there are millions of Muslims who's home country, is the US. There are thousands of Muslims that re-enlist in the military on the US side, to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan.

You complain about the media twisting the facts, and yet you fall victim to it all at the same time.

If you moved to Australia from the US, your family is still living in the US and a war had just started between the two countries. Australia has invaded the US and killed thousands of people and has devastated the country for close to a  decade. People you know have died, towns you used to live in are now destroyed and the country you currently live in hate your guts. Are you telling me that you would still support Australia? You wouldn't have any sort of problem with what Australia is doing to the US? Not even that little bit of negativity?

I also never said the media was twisting facts, I said that it's common for most media distributors to post controversial topics and topics that most of the country would agree with, because those topics would get alot more viewers and readers. 


Well I am here to tell you.. the media twists facts. A few fun facts, just to illustrate my point.

 

  • More white people died in Katrina then black people
  • More rich and middle class people died in Katrina the poor people
  • Less people were murdered in school the year Columbine happened, then the year before it, even with including the Columbine murders. In fact, for 6 years in a row leading up to that year, schools had gotten safer. Not sure anyone would feel that way after the media got though with it.
  • The percentage of Catholic priests that commit child molestation, is half that of the average male population.

 

Anyway, back to the point.

I am not talking about the small percentage of people who live here from Iraq or Afghanistan. I am talking about the millions of other Muslims. 65% of Muslim immigrants in America are from India, Pakistan and Asia.

25% of all American Muslims, are black.

Most Muslims in the US, don't hate this country.



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TheRealMafoo said:
Mr Khan said:
PizzaFaceGamer said:

Finally someone with brains and body.

Wonder how the obama loving liberal media is gonna spin this one


By downplaying this whole thing as the non-issue that it is.

 

Nothing especially wrong with her viewpoint, though. The question is whether anyone's going to care once this has been up a couple years.


What bothers me, is if I have the same viewpoint, I am a Muslim hating right wing nut job who watches Fox News and jack off to Glen Beck every night.

Kind of a double standard, don't you think?


Haha doesn't make you a double standard... just that stereotypes don't work anyways.  Just a person is all it says.  But you don't seriously jack off to Glen Beck haha.  Man's a great entertainer though.  Give him a reality show on VH1.



Zucas said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Mr Khan said:
PizzaFaceGamer said:

Finally someone with brains and body.

Wonder how the obama loving liberal media is gonna spin this one


By downplaying this whole thing as the non-issue that it is.

 

Nothing especially wrong with her viewpoint, though. The question is whether anyone's going to care once this has been up a couple years.


What bothers me, is if I have the same viewpoint, I am a Muslim hating right wing nut job who watches Fox News and jack off to Glen Beck every night.

Kind of a double standard, don't you think?


But you don't seriously jack off to Glen Beck haha. 


lol, I don't watch Fox News or Glen Beck, and I am not right wing (or a nut job). I was kidding about all of it :)



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“I also agree that it shouldn’t be so close to the World Trade Center. We should be more concerned with the tragedy than religion.”

Um... what? How does the Mosque have anything to do with the Tragedy of 9/11?

Oh that's right, it doesn't. It doesn't have anything to do with it. Why is this topic still going on? This is just ridiculous.



TheRealMafoo said:

It's an issue, because we are human.

During the cold war, the number of Communists in Russia that were deserving of the hatred we projected, was I am sure less then 1%. But Americans hated Russians because they were Russians.

Right now, the image of Islam is bad, because all you hear about it is bad. In the last 10 years, what Terrorist act have you heard of, that was not from a Muslim?

True, 99% of all Muslims are great people, but they need to do a much better job explaining that.

If this guy spending 100 million on this center wanted to do that, he would build 100 centers around the US, and use them to promote piece and the good things about there religion. That would be a much smarter move, then to build this thing. A lot of Muslims agree with this idea.

The only reason I entered this thread, is because when A Muslim says the exact same things I am saying, the reaction to it is 100% different then when I say it.

If you asking for tolerance towards a group of people like you are in this thread, first thing you might want to do, is practice it.

In the Christian faith, when you plant a Church, as a pastor you should stay with it until it grows and becomes a living breathing part of the community. This way it actually becomes something, rather than a Church with no leadership. To open up 100 churches instead of one close knit church is asking for trouble. So instead of this specific Muslim opening up his Mosque, and growing it the way he wants too, he should rather open a hundred around the world to promote his religion?

I just don't see your point at all. What if instead of that, he did what every American has the right to do?



TheRealMafoo said:

It's an issue, because we are human.

During the cold war, the number of Communists in Russia that were deserving of the hatred we projected, was I am sure less then 1%. But Americans hated Russians because they were Russians.

Right now, the image of Islam is bad, because all you hear about it is bad. In the last 10 years, what Terrorist act have you heard of, that was not from a Muslim?

True, 99% of all Muslims are great people, but they need to do a much better job explaining that.

If this guy spending 100 million on this center wanted to do that, he would build 100 centers around the US, and use them to promote piece and the good things about there religion. That would be a much smarter move, then to build this thing. A lot of Muslims agree with this idea.

The only reason I entered this thread, is because when A Muslim says the exact same things I am saying, the reaction to it is 100% different then when I say it.

If you asking for tolerance towards a group of people like you are in this thread, first thing you might want to do, is practice it.

In the Christian faith, when you plant a Church, as a pastor you should stay with it until it grows and becomes a living breathing part of the community. This way it actually becomes something, rather than a Church with no leadership. To open up 100 churches instead of one close knit church is asking for trouble. So instead of this specific Muslim opening up his Mosque, and growing it the way he wants too, he should rather open a hundred around the world to promote his religion?

I just don't see your point at all. What if instead of that, he did what every American has the right to do?



Again, I still have yet to see a legitimate reason as to why this Mosque shouldn't be built.



TheRealMafoo said:
Zucas said:
TheRealMafoo said:
Mr Khan said:
PizzaFaceGamer said:

Finally someone with brains and body.

Wonder how the obama loving liberal media is gonna spin this one


By downplaying this whole thing as the non-issue that it is.

 

Nothing especially wrong with her viewpoint, though. The question is whether anyone's going to care once this has been up a couple years.


What bothers me, is if I have the same viewpoint, I am a Muslim hating right wing nut job who watches Fox News and jack off to Glen Beck every night.

Kind of a double standard, don't you think?


But you don't seriously jack off to Glen Beck haha. 


lol, I don't watch Fox News or Glen Beck, and I am not right wing (or a nut job). I was kidding about all of it :)


Well that's a load off my mind haha.