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imo i think V will be amazing, however i agree competition is so high coming up to the final quarter, theres no way a new IP can compete on the same level as Medal of Honor etc...

i think it will sell well in Japan maybe about 0.5-1mil, and i think it could be about 0.5mil in US and EA. and i dont think theres any other really good PS3 TPS, seeing as Gears is exclusive to MS. so its got a good advantage on PS3 at the moment imo. as long as theres some well placed marketing from Sega, seeing as a lot of the ppl i know dont know anything about it.

and i think it will be longer than 10 hours, its a shooter so i would expect multiplayer, which could change the game completely and lead to a supprise hit!!


I think they said there won't be multiplayer in this game because they wanted to focus on Single player and Story... or something like that.

And I think the game will be around 10-15 hours long... and It will have many different modes...

I think you should expect about the same length and replay value Bayonetta has... I mean... I played Devil May Cry 3 for over 99:59:59 hours (I don't know the exact time because my save file would show that number... but I think I've played it for like 300 hours)... If the "God Hard" mode (hardest mode in the game) is simillar to DMC3 Dante Must Die mode in difficulty, I'll play it as much as DMC3 :P

I just hope Save files aren't copy-protected in this one... that's the only reason I didn't buy Bayonetta :S I don't want to spend hundreds of hours playing a game only to lose everything if my PS3 dies >_< I want to be able to back up my Save files >_<

Lol, yeah i actully got really upset about that, i lost my amazing Bayonetta data when PS3 had that whole date crash thing, but i suppose i platinumed it so it wasnt a total failure, but still. Bayonetta is the best action game imo, surpasses DMC3 & 4 imo. Vanquish will do the same with the single player and replay value - no doubt about that, and i'm sorry to say that i think it will be copy-protected, they're the same company, but you should still get it.

i can understand why they would want to focus on single player and story, but i think we'll still get multiplayer. Platinum Games' developers tried to implement online features into Bayonetta with leaderboards, and i'm sure Japanese developers are aware of the popularity of multiplayer in the west. imo multiplayer is the key, if they nail that the game has the potential to become a huge hit in the west.


If I get Bayonetta, I know I'm going to play it for hundreds of hours only to get Pure Platinum in every level in every mode... and If I lose that data, I know I'm going to shoot myself, lol xD So I really hope this one doesn't get copy-protected save files :S That would suck, what's the point in doing that anyways? they could just "link" the save files to the PSN account, just like games such as Final Fantasy XIII or God of War III.

Besides, It's not like getting someone else's save file is going to unlock other person's trophies, the only way to get trophies is by getting them by yourself xD So I really don't understand what the point of this is :/

I think this game will have leaderboards too... but I think Shinji Mikami doesn't want Online multiplayer in this one... but we'll see...

lol, it appears you were right no multiplayer. i'm not a big multiplayer fan, but imo it wouldve worked really well with this game, and i'm sure i woulve enjoyed it. so yeah based on that the sales are less likely to become as successful as something like Gears. not because it wont be as good but because, a lot of ppl play shooters for the multiplayer component, no matter how engrossing the single player is!!

really i didnt know you could save your FF13 or GOW3 data to your PSN account, i'll be having a good look at that soon! yeah well they might let you do that with Vanquish, because loosing save data is very annoying and its more helpful for Bayo or Vanquish to enable that PSN feature.

oh and it will be very interesting to see the sales of this, seeing as it has no multiplayer, so it could favor the PS3 in the west despite being a shooter (Japan will be a PS3 win). now that i've heard theres no multiplayer i think this game will hit the £15-20 'bargin bin' within the first 2 months. just like Bayo or ME2. so i'm probabily going to wait now.


Yeah, I saw you edited the last comment now, lol :P

You don't save your FFXIII or God of War III data to your PSN account... but, If you back-up your save files and take them to another PS3, You can only load them but you won't be allowed to make any new save files unless you start all over again from the beginning. The only way to use those save files is by logging in with your PSN account and activating the PS3. I think you have to log in, go to account management and then "activate this system" or something like that... you select "games" (there's also a "movies" option) and select "Activate". I don't know if those are the exact steps, that's the way I remember it :P

I think this game won't sell much xD It'll probably sell like 700k LTD, both platforms combined :P

Yeah, cheers, i've have a look at that. Based on the interest in this thread, its pretty obvious people are more interested in things like Halo Reach or COD, so i also think the sales will be about 0.7mil. but it is in a more popular genre that Bayo so i wouldnt be supprised if it gets to maybe 1 -1.5mil. i think it has the potential to have strong legs when it hits the bargin bin... oh and you can bet if theres a sequel it will have multiplayer.


Yeah, people seem to be more interested in those games. Personally, Vanquish is the last game I like for the rest of the year :P I'm not interested in any of the remaining titles to be released this year except for this one (Unless Final Fantasy Versus XIII is released this year :O a man can dream =P).

I've just checked Bayonetta sales and they're 0.66M for 360 and 0.72M for PS3... I thought they were a lot less (around 0.20M each) and that's why I said Vanquish would sell 0.70M combined... But after seeing those numbers, I think this game COULD get to 2M combined... but it will take a while :P. I also think it will sell more on the PS3 than the 360 despite it being a shooter and shooters usually selling more on the 360... this will be an exception... In my opinion :P

Can't wait for the demo :D

Worldwide it will be more on PS3, because i think Japanese gamers wont buy it on the 360, especially how its also leading on the PS3. but in the west it will be an interesting comparasion. yeah me too, i'm not too interested in GT5, Halo (or any other shooter) or LBP2. so same goes for me really. but yeah should turn into a bit of a cult classic imo, like Demon's Souls.

lol, Versus i dont think will be out til next year. i think if its still a PS3 exclusive then we might get a WW similtaneous release like they wanted with FF13. so i would expect mid - late 2011. imo, i have serious doubts over the game man. FF13 was an okay game, but i along with many FF fans were heavily dissappointed with the direction the series has taken. if Nomura continues in that direction with this, i honestly have no idea if i'll still support the series as i have in the past. its not the same as when Sakaguchi was there.

saying that, i'm still planning to get Dragon Quest later this year, that is supposed to be extremely good!!



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lol, appologies, didnt think anyone else was intertesed in this thread, will do.



A203D said:

Worldwide it will be more on PS3, because i think Japanese gamers wont buy it on the 360, especially how its also leading on the PS3. but in the west it will be an interesting comparasion. yeah me too, i'm not too interested in GT5, Halo (or any other shooter) or LBP2. so same goes for me really. but yeah should turn into a bit of a cult classic imo, like Demon's Souls.

lol, Versus i dont think will be out til next year. i think if its still a PS3 exclusive then we might get a WW similtaneous release like they wanted with FF13. so i would expect mid - late 2011. imo, i have serious doubts over the game man. FF13 was an okay game, but i along with many FF fans were heavily dissappointed with the direction the series has taken. if Nomura continues in that direction with this, i honestly have no idea if i'll still support the series as i have in the past. its not the same as when Sakaguchi was there.

saying that, i'm still planning to get Dragon Quest later this year, that is supposed to be extremely good!!

Maybe It'll sell more on 360 in Americas... but others plus japan will be the opposite :P

Yeah, I expect Versus to be released around 3 months after XIV (PS3). I really hope it stays exclusive and we get a Worldwide simultaneos release. You shouldn't have doubts about Versus XIII :P It's supposed to have better graphics than Final Fantasy XIII, have a world-map like the old FF titles, an airship... and a car used for transport around the world-map, cities like shinjuku or however that's spelled, a world-map as open as the 2D FF's world-map (you can go everywhere, except for the mountains :P), a gameplay simillar to KH's gameplay, Music composed by Yoko Shimomura (Parasite Eve, Front Mission, Kingdom Hearts, etc)... etc :P. Doesn't all that sound good to you? :P because it sound pretty good to me :D

By the way... is Mistwalker owner by Microsoft now? because if that's the case then that sucks in my opinion xD

Oh, and this time... when reviews and a lot of info on Versus XIII starts to spread all over the internet, I'll try not to read to much... specially people's impressions on the game becuase I don't want to create a "view" on the game before playing it and judge it from that "view" :P. I want to create my own view this time... and be less spoiled about the story (I already knew a lot of locations in FFXIII, all characters and their names, all summons and many bosses before even playing the game).

If it releases first in Japan, then I'll very tempted to watch every video I find on YouTube >_<



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sweet, I've really been looking forward to this. Looks like Mikami has come back to show people how to get really creative with shooters.



Jdevil3 said:

Maybe It'll sell more on 360 in Americas... but others plus japan will be the opposite :P

Yeah, I expect Versus to be released around 3 months after XIV (PS3). I really hope it stays exclusive and we get a Worldwide simultaneos release. You shouldn't have doubts about Versus XIII :P It's supposed to have better graphics than Final Fantasy XIII, have a world-map like the old FF titles, an airship... and a car used for transport around the world-map, cities like shinjuku or however that's spelled, a world-map as open as the 2D FF's world-map (you can go everywhere, except for the mountains :P), a gameplay simillar to KH's gameplay, Music composed by Yoko Shimomura (Parasite Eve, Front Mission, Kingdom Hearts, etc)... etc :P. Doesn't all that sound good to you? :P because it sound pretty good to me :D

By the way... is Mistwalker owner by Microsoft now? because if that's the case then that sucks in my opinion xD

Oh, and this time... when reviews and a lot of info on Versus XIII starts to spread all over the internet, I'll try not to read to much... specially people's impressions on the game becuase I don't want to create a "view" on the game before playing it and judge it from that "view" :P. I want to create my own view this time... and be less spoiled about the story (I already knew a lot of locations in FFXIII, all characters and their names, all summons and many bosses before even playing the game).

If it releases first in Japan, then I'll very tempted to watch every video I find on YouTube >_<

Yeah i know what you mean about that actully, we knew far too much about FF13 years before it was released, too much about the story and the characters. and i was like that actully, i saw a vid of FF13 when it was released in Japan, so i could check out the battle system, and i spoiled a small part of the story for myself. so now, never again. you just have to try and look forward to something else that will tide you over. i dont have that problem at the moment, because of my lack of faith in SE.

but yeah Mistwalker is Sakaguchi's company, and Microsoft funded it under the agreement he would make 2 exclusive titles for the 360. now thats done it seems like he has nothing more to do with them. i suppose they were trying to trigger a surge of RPG interest in the console, and he couldnt do it, so they decided to pay $75mil for FF13. so i dont think he cares or they care at the moment. but Last Story does look very good man, very good.

dont get me wrong all that stuff you said about versus sounds good and will probabily lead to great gameplay, no doubt. Nomura nails it with Kingdom Hearts and apparently TWEWY is also a stunning game. but my problem with FF13 was the story and the way the story was told.i'm concerned that it will end up like FF13 where we have far too many cutscenes that beat around the bush, with stuff like 'Serah says so'. and we'll never get to the meat of the Fabula Nova Crystalisis, they'll leave us hanging.

sorry to put a downer on it, but i dont like the direction the series is going with longer cutscenes that leave you with more cutscenes, and none of the questions unanswered. we waited 5 years for FF13, and all we got was 6 hours of 'Serah says so'. imo cutscenes arnt the only way to tell a story, if you've played Valkyria Chronicles then you should know what i mean. but Nomura is not Kitase, so hopefully he knows what hes doing with this!!



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A203D said:

Yeah i know what you mean about that actully, we knew far too much about FF13 years before it was released, too much about the story and the characters. and i was like that actully, i saw a vid of FF13 when it was released in Japan, so i could check out the battle system, and i spoiled a small part of the story for myself. so now, never again. you just have to try and look forward to something else that will tide you over. i dont have that problem at the moment, because of my lack of faith in SE.

but yeah Mistwalker is Sakaguchi's company, and Microsoft funded it under the agreement he would make 2 exclusive titles for the 360. now thats done it seems like he has nothing more to do with them. i suppose they were trying to trigger a surge of RPG interest in the console, and he couldnt do it, so they decided to pay $75mil for FF13. so i dont think he cares or they care at the moment. but Last Story does look very good man, very good.

dont get me wrong all that stuff you said about versus sounds good and will probabily lead to great gameplay, no doubt. Nomura nails it with Kingdom Hearts and apparently TWEWY is also a stunning game. but my problem with FF13 was the story and the way the story was told.i'm concerned that it will end up like FF13 where we have far too many cutscenes that beat around the bush, with stuff like 'Serah says so'. and we'll never get to the meat of the Fabula Nova Crystalisis, they'll leave us hanging.

sorry to put a downer on it, but i dont like the direction the series is going with longer cutscenes that leave you with more cutscenes, and none of the questions unanswered. we waited 5 years for FF13, and all we got was 6 hours of 'Serah says so'. imo cutscenes arnt the only way to tell a story, if you've played Valkyria Chronicles then you should know what i mean. but Nomura is not Kitase, so hopefully he knows what hes doing with this!!

Aah, so The Last Story is made by Mistwalker? That's good because that means they don't only make Xbox 360 games... so maybe some day we will have a Sakaguchi game released on the PS3 :D

I think you wanted to see more about the Mythology in Final Fantasy XIII, right? Well... I think Versus XIII will show a lot more about that than XIII did... I mean, one of the trailers showed Noctis and Stella talking near a painting that's supposed to be the goddes Etro which makes me think that the mythology will play a bigger role in the cutscenes this time. I think Final Fantasy XIII cutscenes were on par with older FF games lengthwise... they didn't seem longer... in fact I think they were a bit shorter than older FFs cutscenes :P

BTW, since Nomura didn't direct XIII I think that will be reflected in Versus XIII's story being told in a different way than XIII... besides this one will have a "darker" story... which sounds promising :P.

Oh, and I haven't played Valkyria Chronicles yet but I probably will someday :P

Personally, I don't care about cutscenes being long... in fact, I like that :P As long as the story is interesting ^_^

I think we have derailed this thread way too much... it's about Vanquish demo and we are talking about FFXIII and Versus XIII xD



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Jdevil3 said:

Aah, so The Last Story is made by Mistwalker? That's good because that means they don't only make Xbox 360 games... so maybe some day we will have a Sakaguchi game released on the PS3 :D

I think you wanted to see more about the Mythology in Final Fantasy XIII, right? Well... I think Versus XIII will show a lot more about that than XIII did... I mean, one of the trailers showed Noctis and Stella talking near a painting that's supposed to be the goddes Etro which makes me think that the mythology will play a bigger role in the cutscenes this time. I think Final Fantasy XIII cutscenes were on par with older FF games lengthwise... they didn't seem longer... in fact I think they were a bit shorter than older FFs cutscenes :P

BTW, since Nomura didn't direct XIII I think that will be reflected in Versus XIII's story being told in a different way than XIII... besides this one will have a "darker" story... which sounds promising :P.

Oh, and I haven't played Valkyria Chronicles yet but I probably will someday :P

Personally, I don't care about cutscenes being long... in fact, I like that :P As long as the story is interesting ^_^

I think we have derailed this thread way too much... it's about Vanquish demo and we are talking about FFXIII and Versus XIII xD

Yeah well we'll discuss this in more depth some other time then, but we did say pretty much all we could say about Vanquish tbh, lol. it will be a great game.

yeah i did want more on the mythology, and hopefully Nomura rectifies that. i'm more interested in darker characters and story definitly. we'll see how it turns out my friend. oh yeah i wouldnt worry too much about Valkyria Chronicles, the battle system gets annoying, a lot of trial and error, but i really like the way the story is told.

oh and yes hopefully Sakaguchi does something for PS3, maybe even port the Last Story, i know its not likely but you never know, SE might even publish it for him.



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Jdevil3 said:

Aah, so The Last Story is made by Mistwalker? That's good because that means they don't only make Xbox 360 games... so maybe some day we will have a Sakaguchi game released on the PS3 :D

I think you wanted to see more about the Mythology in Final Fantasy XIII, right? Well... I think Versus XIII will show a lot more about that than XIII did... I mean, one of the trailers showed Noctis and Stella talking near a painting that's supposed to be the goddes Etro which makes me think that the mythology will play a bigger role in the cutscenes this time. I think Final Fantasy XIII cutscenes were on par with older FF games lengthwise... they didn't seem longer... in fact I think they were a bit shorter than older FFs cutscenes :P

BTW, since Nomura didn't direct XIII I think that will be reflected in Versus XIII's story being told in a different way than XIII... besides this one will have a "darker" story... which sounds promising :P.

Oh, and I haven't played Valkyria Chronicles yet but I probably will someday :P

Personally, I don't care about cutscenes being long... in fact, I like that :P As long as the story is interesting ^_^

I think we have derailed this thread way too much... it's about Vanquish demo and we are talking about FFXIII and Versus XIII xD

Yeah well we'll discuss this in more depth some other time then, but we did say pretty much all we could say about Vanquish tbh, lol. it will be a great game.

yeah i did want more on the mythology, and hopefully Nomura rectifies that. i'm more interested in darker characters and story definitly. we'll see how it turns out my friend. oh yeah i wouldnt worry too much about Valkyria Chronicles, the battle system gets annoying, a lot of trial and error, but i really like the way the story is told.

oh and yes hopefully Sakaguchi does something for PS3, maybe even port the Last Story, i know its not likely but you never know, SE might even publish it for him.


Yeah, only time will tell :P

I hope so about The Last Story... but a new, exclusive title created from the ground up for the PS3 would be even better than that =P



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Thanks for telling us. I'll put my japanese account to good use when the time comes. ;)



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Thanks for telling us. I'll put my japanese account to good use when the time comes. ;)


No problem :D

BTW, I've just found this article:

http://www.vg247.com/2010/08/21/vanquish-demo-set-for-september-2-on-psn-and-xbl/

 

Vanquish producer Atsushi Inaba has said Platinum Games plans to release a demo for the game on Xbox Live and PSN September 2.

 

Speaking with Gamespot Japan during gamescom, Inaba said the demo will be titled Velocity Attack, and it contains a prologue sequence as well as a boss fight with Argos.

Players will be able to try it out in both casual and normal difficulty modes, as well as the auto aim feature.

Inaba also said the Vanquish demo shown at TGS next month will be different from the downloadable demo, as it will show additional playable areas and a stage with an appearance by a surprising character (Bayonetta maybe? – SN).

Vanquish is out on October 19 in the US and October 22 in the UK for PS3 and Xbox 360.

 

 

 

 

Who could this "surprising character" be? :O

I hope this demo is released the same day worldwide :P I don't want to create a japanese account, lol xD



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