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Carl2291 said:

Impossible to know.

We have no idea how many Slims of the PS3 or 360 have been bought by current console owners.

We have no idea how many people are MULTIPLE console owners. Someone could have a PS3 upstairs and a PS3 downstairs.

We have no idea how many consoles have failed... Or how many people have had to rebuy instead of getting repairs.

 

I would actually say the 360 has a greater install base. Simply because the Attach Ratio for it is great.

but alot of people use the ps3 mainly for a blu ray player and only get a few games, and yes we do have no idea lol, all we do know is that alot more 360s failed we don't know how many were repaired (or replaced and not counted as sale) as for the having a ps3 upstairs and downstairs I find it more common for people to own multiple 360s because of the warranty (they buy a new 360 then realize they can send in their old one and keep both) and because it's cheaper, I'm positive that the gap of the install base is less then the gab of the sales though by 3.6 mil is a bit to clear through dif in broken consoles alone



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Carl2291 said:

Impossible to know.

We have no idea how many Slims of the PS3 or 360 have been bought by current console owners.

We have no idea how many people are MULTIPLE console owners. Someone could have a PS3 upstairs and a PS3 downstairs.

We have no idea how many consoles have failed... Or how many people have had to rebuy instead of getting repairs.

 

I would actually say the 360 has a greater install base. Simply because the Attach Ratio for it is great.

This

The attach rate for the 360 is higher on average than the PS3.

The only explanations are.

1. More Xbox consoles are actively being gamed with therefore creating a bigger potential consumer base (probable)

2. All xbox owners have more disposable income than PS3 owners (unlikely)

3. Xbox owners are bigger gaming enthusiasts then PS3 owners and budget more of their income towards game purchasers (unlikely)

4. Microsofts' bottomless pit of money being targeted towards saturation advertising is having an effect. (unlikely)



A look at the sales numbers tell you that it is the 360.



tuscaniman said:
unknown_soul89 said:
tuscaniman said:

Plenty of PS3 owners picked up a slim to replace their older models. 360 has a bigger install base.

Although that is true, for everyone one that replaced their old model with a slim theres probably about 3 that did it for the jasper and about 1 that did it again for the 360 silm 


Oh ok you're right. I must be imagining things then when every person I know owns a 360 and I can count on one hand how many people own a PS3. Its time for you to buy a calendar and realize this isn't 1999 when Sony dominated. The 360 has sold more consoles, has a bigger install base, and is annihilating the PS3 in USA and will continue to do so. In the others region its a heated battle. Sony has Japan and always will.

You have no proof they have a bigger install base, and they haven't annihilated the ps3 in the usa, they are beating them by a healthy margin in the usa but thats about the only place, 360 is losing ground in almost every other place, hell the 360 isn't even sold in all the countries the ps3 is and with the failrate people aren't too keen to import, the only accurate thing about that statement is the 360 sold more then the 360 and thats not even over the same time period 



unknown_soul89 said:
Aion said:

I think 360, for it's online.

that makes no sense that has nothing to do with install base and only about half of 360 owners even have a gold account 


Still that's a factor, like other features on the ps3.



 

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Antabus said:

A look at the sales numbers tell you that it is the 360.


and one look at the failrate tells you it's the ps3 



Carl2291 said:

Impossible to know.

We have no idea how many Slims of the PS3 or 360 have been bought by current console owners.

We have no idea how many people are MULTIPLE console owners. Someone could have a PS3 upstairs and a PS3 downstairs.

We have no idea how many consoles have failed... Or how many people have had to rebuy instead of getting repairs.

 

I would actually say the 360 has a greater install base. Simply because the Attach Ratio for it is great.

I was actually wandering what are the actual attach ratio for both, do you have them? Its been a while that multiplatform beside FPS sells even or very close on both. Sometime more on PS3 some other time more on 360 but FPS that always sells more on 360. Do we have recent figures, im curious.



unknown_soul89 said:
Cypher1980 said:
Xbbjf9s said:
unknown_soul89 said:
NiKKoM said:

Ow please.. we all know that 10 million ps3's are just used as Blu Ray Players... >_>

Thats bullshit, I might buy that their used primary as blu ray players but the owner would definitely pick up the occasional game, besides as long as the console is working it counts as install base

I agree that is bullshit, why are people still bringing that shit up?

I know a videophile who bought the PS3 at launch as a Blu Ray player. He doesnt own any games and has never rented a game. He doesnt like playing games !

Plus its in connected to the main family TV so if he's not watching a movie the TV is being used for its primary function by his other half.

Shall I pop round and tell him he doesnt exist ?

Go for it tell your imaginary made up friend he doesn't exist lol, but even if you aren't lying maybe a few thousand people at the absolute most 

Oh he exists and Sony are pleased to have his non gaming ass. He must own over 100 Blu Rays.

As for a few thousand at most ! Try to bear in mind that at launch the PS3 was by far the cheapest, best and most versatile Blu Ray player on the market.

I would say up to half a million are used exclusively for media playback. Maybe even more.

Of course I admit any numbers are guess work but you have to remember the situation at the time.

We will however never know for sure.



Cypher1980 said:
Carl2291 said:

Impossible to know.

We have no idea how many Slims of the PS3 or 360 have been bought by current console owners.

We have no idea how many people are MULTIPLE console owners. Someone could have a PS3 upstairs and a PS3 downstairs.

We have no idea how many consoles have failed... Or how many people have had to rebuy instead of getting repairs.

 

I would actually say the 360 has a greater install base. Simply because the Attach Ratio for it is great.

This

The attach rate for the 360 is higher on average than the PS3.

The only explanations are.

1. More Xbox consoles are actively being gamed with therefore creating a bigger potential consumer base (probable)

2. All xbox owners have more disposable income than PS3 owners (unlikely)

3. Xbox owners are bigger gaming enthusiasts then PS3 owners and budget more of their income towards game purchasers (unlikely)

4. Microsofts' bottomless pit of money being targeted towards saturation advertising is having an effect. (unlikely)

Um 3 and 4 seem likely to me, well besides the budgeting 360 owners are spontaneous buyers where ps3 owners are more likely to budget their cash and watch what they buy and 4 seems very likely especially with the level of exaggeration multiplats are better on 360 has reached and you didn't mention that alot of people might not use their ps3 primarily for gaming 



unknown_soul89 said:
Antabus said:

A look at the sales numbers tell you that it is the 360.


and one look at the failrate tells you it's the ps3 


Nah. If a 360 breaks, it will most likely be repaired because of the extended warranty. If a ps3 breaks for let's say YLOD, tough luck. You have to buy a new one unless it breaks in a year.

Oh and your 42% failrate sounds interesting, got anything to back it up? Other than an online poll?