Who do you think has the larger install base 360 or ps3

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unknown_soul89 on 17 August 2010

Antabus said:

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Why not? They don't sell you less than X numbers of consoles per order. ;)

But Sony has shipped more PS3's than they needed because retailers overestimated the demand for PS3 slim a bit and 360 shipped numbers are closer to current sales numbers because of the current demand of 360s.

By 2 million, get real

No. By something like 1 million or less. Do you think that every shipped console is sold instantly? Of course not. There are always consoles in supply chain. I think that figure is usually something in range of 1 million.

yes but theres no reason to believe that 360s range is much different, all we know is that VG chartz isn't accurate besides those numbers for shipped came out awhile ago

Yes there is. Slim launched few weeks ago and it was(is?) supply constrained. Which pretty much means that most of those shipped consoles were sold as soon as possible. Just before that, we don't know how much older models were shipped to retailers. It is possible that ms stopped shipping them to sell out the old models before the slim.

at most it creates a margin of error of a few hundred thousand I doubt it effects the final result unless their really close in install base

Good. Now that we could agree on that, what if there is a margin of 500k for the usual rate of shipped/sold in "favor" of 360 and for ps3 the same 500k would be a "negative" for ps3. How would those shipped/sold figures look like then?

Ms would have 500k (I don't think they had that much but let's play with this) consoles on supply chain and ps3 would have 1,5m consoles on supply chain. MS shipped was 41,7m and sold units would have been 41,2m or so. PS3 had 38,1m shipped and sold numbers would have been 36,6m or so. How much are those figures off from VGC numbers? Is it within the margin of error?

definitely not, we already know VG chartz numbers are wrong, they have Sony over shipped 3 quarters in a row which just isn't possible especially since there was a ps3 shortage during that time, frankly I feel the that even having the total difference between shipped and sold at 500k is stretching it and that would only happen if it was 200k-300k on both sides against each other

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Icyedge on 18 August 2010

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Its been only 1 month and half 360 is selling more than PS3 (around 100 K more per week). That does not explain the big diff. between shipped and sold between the two. Someone was able to know what is the minimum order for both companies? Also, how many stores Sony and Microsoft sells to?

Why not? 360s is propably supply constrained somewhere even today. Don't know about that, but I am pretty sure that there aren't huge stocks of them sitting at warehouse shelves. PS3 had ha huge success with the slim version and that might have resulted in a slight overstocking by some retailers. One million difference between shipped and sold is pretty ordinary (at least I think so) and one million more to that is not stretching it too far.

If I understand correctly what you mean is that Microsoft may not be able to fill all their orders. That could very well be true. Tough, its not because they sold 100K more for 5 weeks that their shipped/sold figure should be different from Sony's one. That was the problem with your first assumption, but now I get what your saying. Not able to fill orders is different from "they have been selling more recently". Thats still an assumption, but it makes sense.