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theprof00 said:

1 Euro = 113.7 yen
1 pound= 136.93 yen

Japanese slim ps3 cost 29,980 yen.
Euro slim ps3 cost 299 euros
UK slim ps3 cost 250 pounds

Japanese ps3 slim revenue in yen 29,980
Euro ps3 slim revenue in yen 33,996
UK ps3 slim revenue in yen 34,250

Additional income over 29,980 in yen
Euro: 3,980
Pound: 4,270

income in respective currency:
Euro: 29 euro
Pound: 31 pound


good explaining prof,i like it



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zuvuyeay said:
theprof00 said:

1 Euro = 113.7 yen
1 pound= 136.93 yen

Japanese slim ps3 cost 29,980 yen.
Euro slim ps3 cost 299 euros
UK slim ps3 cost 250 pounds

Japanese ps3 slim revenue in yen 29,980
Euro ps3 slim revenue in yen 33,996
UK ps3 slim revenue in yen 34,250

Additional income over 29,980 in yen
Euro: 3,980
Pound: 4,270

income in respective currency:
Euro: 29 euro
Pound: 31 pound


good explaining prof,i like it

Now, consider VAT, and the numbers are completely different.



selnor said:
postofficebuddy said:
selnor said:

T those not in the know. UK pricing of PS3 is shocking right now.

The cheapest model being £249.99.

For example it has a smaller HDD than the 360s and a wifi not as good. 

Yet the 360s is £199. I bet Sony drop the price of the 160gb to £199 in UK.

They have to. Because that would level the price but still have a smaller HDD. 

We shall see.


I can't see a 50 pound cut. As Kynes pointed out Microsoft is in a very unfavorable position profit-wise in the UK. Why else do you think they hiked the price of the arcade? I suspect it will be a 25 pound cut or maybe 35 at most.

M$ never hiked the price. The shops actually undercut the price. The RRP has stayed the same for ages in the UK.

Yes they did, the RRP was £129, Microsoft made an announcement it was rising to £159.



 

Kynes said:
zuvuyeay said:
theprof00 said:

1 Euro = 113.7 yen
1 pound= 136.93 yen

Japanese slim ps3 cost 29,980 yen.
Euro slim ps3 cost 299 euros
UK slim ps3 cost 250 pounds

Japanese ps3 slim revenue in yen 29,980
Euro ps3 slim revenue in yen 33,996
UK ps3 slim revenue in yen 34,250

Additional income over 29,980 in yen
Euro: 3,980
Pound: 4,270

income in respective currency:
Euro: 29 euro
Pound: 31 pound


good explaining prof,i like it

Now, consider VAT, and the numbers are completely different.

I refuse to acknowledge anything that upsets my point. Now what is this Value added tax, and how does it work?



theprof00 said:
Kynes said:
zuvuyeay said:
theprof00 said:

1 Euro = 113.7 yen
1 pound= 136.93 yen

Japanese slim ps3 cost 29,980 yen.
Euro slim ps3 cost 299 euros
UK slim ps3 cost 250 pounds

Japanese ps3 slim revenue in yen 29,980
Euro ps3 slim revenue in yen 33,996
UK ps3 slim revenue in yen 34,250

Additional income over 29,980 in yen
Euro: 3,980
Pound: 4,270

income in respective currency:
Euro: 29 euro
Pound: 31 pound


good explaining prof,i like it

Now, consider VAT, and the numbers are completely different.

I refuse to acknowledge anything that upsets my point. Now what is this Value added tax, and how does it work?


VAT is the european sales tax. Here it's included in the MRSP, so 299€ or 250 pounds are after taxes. In Spain VAT is at 18%, so before taxes, PS3 costs 253,39€. In the scandinavian countries I think it's at 25%, 19.6 at France... you can use 20% as an approximation. 



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Kynes said:
zuvuyeay said:
theprof00 said:

1 Euro = 113.7 yen
1 pound= 136.93 yen

Japanese slim ps3 cost 29,980 yen.
Euro slim ps3 cost 299 euros
UK slim ps3 cost 250 pounds

Japanese ps3 slim revenue in yen 29,980
Euro ps3 slim revenue in yen 33,996
UK ps3 slim revenue in yen 34,250

Additional income over 29,980 in yen
Euro: 3,980
Pound: 4,270

income in respective currency:
Euro: 29 euro
Pound: 31 pound


good explaining prof,i like it

Now, consider VAT, and the numbers are completely different.

yes,i agree,what is it going up to, in the uk

do japan and america have no equivalent tax then,at all



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zuvuyeay said:
Kynes said:
zuvuyeay said:
theprof00 said:

1 Euro = 113.7 yen
1 pound= 136.93 yen

Japanese slim ps3 cost 29,980 yen.
Euro slim ps3 cost 299 euros
UK slim ps3 cost 250 pounds

Japanese ps3 slim revenue in yen 29,980
Euro ps3 slim revenue in yen 33,996
UK ps3 slim revenue in yen 34,250

Additional income over 29,980 in yen
Euro: 3,980
Pound: 4,270

income in respective currency:
Euro: 29 euro
Pound: 31 pound


good explaining prof,i like it

Now, consider VAT, and the numbers are completely different.

yes,i agree,what is it going up to, in the uk

do japan and america have no equivalent tax then,at all

Japan I don't know. In USA, the MRSP is without taxes. As an example, California Sales Tax was in 2008 an 8.25% if I'm not mistaken, so you have to pay 299$ for the PS3 and 24,67$ in taxes, for a total of 323,67$. In Europe, that 299€ is the final amount you have to pay, because the sales tax is included in that price. Politicians do this way in Europe so people don't consider the real costs and the taxes we pay.

 

This is why you can't compare directly MRSPs divided by the exchange ratio, because in USA that MRSP is before taxes, and in Europe is after taxes.



BMaker11 said:
selnor said:
Dallinor said:
selnor said:
leo-j said:
selnor said:

T those not in the know. UK pricing of PS3 is shocking right now.

The cheapest model being £249.99.

For example it has a smaller HDD than the 360s and a wifi not as good. 

Yet the 360s is £199. I bet Sony drop the price of the 160gb to £199 in UK.

They have to. Because that would level the price but still have a smaller HDD. 

We shall see.


and the ps3 has a 3D blu ray player..  which makes value completely irrelavent


Not really. Bluray isnt that big in UK at all. The prices of the actual Films are to high, and Broadband is very attainable.

I dont know anyone with a Bluray player. Except my one friend who has a PS3.

You said the same thing in a thread only a short while ago:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=113134&page=1

Many posters then provided replies showing evidence to the contrary. Yet here you are posting the same stuff again.

Also, as for the anecdotal evidence. Do you really think your circle of friends buying habits are a strong indication of the UK's as a whole?

OK. 

1. Noone provided any evidence to the contrary. 

2. Retail prices on the high street of UK for BluRay ( not online prices ) are around £15 average. FACT.

3. The floor space is minimal for BluRay movies in UK

4. The RRP for PS3 on ths high street 'IS' £249.99 at the lowest. And this is what GAME and the rest sell it for. 

I'm not sure what your trying to achieve, but my original point stands. In the UK PS3 isnt really important. And the price is not helping especially considering you get less for the money and BluRay hasnt really taken off here. 

My point? Sony need to at least match the 360s price in the UK with PS3 lowest model to even start helping it here.

So the 360 FINALLY makes a big HDD mandatory (even though there are still 4GB arcade models) and now all of the sudden, the PS3 gets less for your money. So the free online, wifi FROM THE BEGINNING BUILT IN (lol trying to say the wifi is worse), BluRay, etc value just went down...because the 360 got a bigger HDD?

I'm not having a dig at the PS3. I'm talking about how UK customers percieve the value. The PS3 is already on the backfoot in UK. Therefore the 360s revision withit's price will only further that issue unless Sony do something.



zuvuyeay said:

yes,i agree,what is it going up to, in the uk

do japan and america have no equivalent tax then,at all

 

I think VAT is to go up to 20%.  Currently at 17.5%.

The USA has sales tax, that varies from state to state, that's added on at POS, iirc.



right i see,americans never seem to mention the extra they pay on here,you just assume they only paid $249 or whatever a PS3 costs these days

all states vary and some have none from what i just looked up,online shopping might be nothing too

but its nothing like european vat of course

 



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