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I know it was a joke thread, but I'm surprised by the amount of ignorance and assholery shown in this thread. Damn, I'm an atheist, but at least I research religions before outright insulting a whole population of people. It's so weird that had I said some of the things said in this thread about other religions I'd most likely be banned. Shameful.



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FaRmLaNd said:
sapphi_snake said:
Smidlee said:

One world goverment or one world religion (or no religion) would do nothing to stop war since the greatest enemy are those from within and not those from the outside. In American our own government has done more damage to our economy than any  muslim extremist  could ever dream to  do

Bit melodramatic, don't you think?

One world religion would just eliminate one of the possible conflict generators, and even if there was one world governemnt there could still be civil wars. So you're right about those wouldn't eradicate war, though they'd certainly eliminate major reasons of conflict.

No it wouldn't. Which specific version of Islam? Because they're killing each other left and right in many parts of the world. Ironically its often the smaller differences that infuriate people the most. It wouldn't be a stretch th say that the biggest killers of Muslims in the world today are other Muslims.

Were you replying to me? I wasn't reffering to the whole world converting to Islam, I was reffering to the existence of a one world government or a one world religion (a religion with no different sects, unlike christianity or islam)/prefferably no religion.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

I'll strongly remain an atheist, thank you.



sapphi_snake said:
FaRmLaNd said:
sapphi_snake said:
Smidlee said:

One world goverment or one world religion (or no religion) would do nothing to stop war since the greatest enemy are those from within and not those from the outside. In American our own government has done more damage to our economy than any  muslim extremist  could ever dream to  do

Bit melodramatic, don't you think?

One world religion would just eliminate one of the possible conflict generators, and even if there was one world governemnt there could still be civil wars. So you're right about those wouldn't eradicate war, though they'd certainly eliminate major reasons of conflict.

No it wouldn't. Which specific version of Islam? Because they're killing each other left and right in many parts of the world. Ironically its often the smaller differences that infuriate people the most. It wouldn't be a stretch th say that the biggest killers of Muslims in the world today are other Muslims.

Were you replying to me? I wasn't reffering to the whole world converting to Islam, I was reffering to the existence of a one world government or a one world religion (a religion with no different sects, unlike christianity or islam)/prefferably no religion

Its not possible to have one world religion without it splintering. If you look at most of the major religions they splinter further and further over time. So even if you started with one, in 500 years time I very much doubt it'll still be one religion. The ideal as you say would be no religion, as it would remove humanity from that particular cycle of violence but dogma would still presumable exist. Wether its in a religious like personality cult or any other extreme political movements.



FaRmLaNd said:
sapphi_snake said:
FaRmLaNd said:
sapphi_snake said:
Smidlee said:

One world goverment or one world religion (or no religion) would do nothing to stop war since the greatest enemy are those from within and not those from the outside. In American our own government has done more damage to our economy than any  muslim extremist  could ever dream to  do

Bit melodramatic, don't you think?

One world religion would just eliminate one of the possible conflict generators, and even if there was one world governemnt there could still be civil wars. So you're right about those wouldn't eradicate war, though they'd certainly eliminate major reasons of conflict.

No it wouldn't. Which specific version of Islam? Because they're killing each other left and right in many parts of the world. Ironically its often the smaller differences that infuriate people the most. It wouldn't be a stretch th say that the biggest killers of Muslims in the world today are other Muslims.

Were you replying to me? I wasn't reffering to the whole world converting to Islam, I was reffering to the existence of a one world government or a one world religion (a religion with no different sects, unlike christianity or islam)/prefferably no religion

Its not possible to have one world religion without it splintering. If you look at most of the major religions they splinter further and further over time. So even if you started with one, in 500 years time I very much doubt it'll still be one religion. The ideal as you say would be no religion, as it would remove humanity from that particular cycle of violence but dogma would still presumable exist. Wether its in a religious like personality cult or any other extreme political movements.

True, but I was saying that one world government and/or only one religion/no religion would bring down the tension  a noch from what it is today.



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

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sapphi_snake said:
FaRmLaNd said:
sapphi_snake said:
FaRmLaNd said:
sapphi_snake said:
Smidlee said:

One world goverment or one world religion (or no religion) would do nothing to stop war since the greatest enemy are those from within and not those from the outside. In American our own government has done more damage to our economy than any  muslim extremist  could ever dream to  do

Bit melodramatic, don't you think?

One world religion would just eliminate one of the possible conflict generators, and even if there was one world governemnt there could still be civil wars. So you're right about those wouldn't eradicate war, though they'd certainly eliminate major reasons of conflict.

No it wouldn't. Which specific version of Islam? Because they're killing each other left and right in many parts of the world. Ironically its often the smaller differences that infuriate people the most. It wouldn't be a stretch th say that the biggest killers of Muslims in the world today are other Muslims.

Were you replying to me? I wasn't reffering to the whole world converting to Islam, I was reffering to the existence of a one world government or a one world religion (a religion with no different sects, unlike christianity or islam)/prefferably no religion

Its not possible to have one world religion without it splintering. If you look at most of the major religions they splinter further and further over time. So even if you started with one, in 500 years time I very much doubt it'll still be one religion. The ideal as you say would be no religion, as it would remove humanity from that particular cycle of violence but dogma would still presumable exist. Wether its in a religious like personality cult or any other extreme political movements.

True, but I was saying that one world government and/or only one religion/no religion would bring down the tension  a noch from what it is today.

Well, in a perfect world. But unless that world government was a secular democracy I can tell you it wouldn't bring it down a notch for me. My greatest fear in regards to a world government is that the government would end up being worse then the nation I live in was before it was superceded. If done right it'd be great, but the risks are in many ways far too great in my mind. Especially if everyone was forced to be one religion, I'm sure an atheist like myself wouldn't be tolerated in such a world.



@FaRmLanD

Ideally there would be total religious freedom, however religion would be viewed as a private matter that has no place in the public sphere. A one world government as a secular democracy would be ideal, and I don't think that any ohter type of government could rule the world in the long run (unless the government was despicable like that of Ninteteen Eighty-Four).



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

I recently invented my own religion and within two days my best mate converted.

Thats 100 percent growth in under 48 hours. So tell me whose religion is faster growing now ?



Cypher1980 said:

I recently invented my own religion and within two days my best mate converted.

Thats 100 percent growth in under 48 hours. So tell me whose religion is faster growing now ?

What do you worship? What are your principles?



"I don't understand how someone could like Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky, but not like Twilight!!!"

"Last book I read was Brokeback Mountain, I just don't have the patience for them unless it's softcore porn."

                                                                               (The Voice of a Generation and Seece)

"If you cant stand the sound of your own voice than dont become a singer !!!!!"

                                                                               (pizzahut451)

sapphi_snake said:

@FaRmLanD

Ideally there would be total religious freedom, however religion would be viewed as a private matter that has no place in the public sphere. A one world government as a secular democracy would be ideal, and I don't think that any ohter type of government could rule the world in the long run (unless the government was despicable like that of Ninteteen Eighty-Four).

True.

But look at the UN, which is passing blasphemy and defemation of religions resolutions (non-binding ones already exist). The concessions made for the Islamic block in the UN is disturbing. I mean criticism is a major cornerstone of the modern world, science, skepticism, non-religion and so many things. To make criticism of religion a crime means that breaking away from religion is many ways will be a crime if these laws become binding. I mean how can one not become an atheist without criticising religion? At least during the initial de-conversion period.

I find it disturbing that so many religious leaders are so offended by criticism that they want to make blasphemy a crime. I doubt that Christopher Hitchens "God is not Great" would get the cut? Surely thats offensive?

My point being is that I think if a world government were to be formed it'd probably have to make tremendous concessions to get everyone on board. Which could potentially set in motion the end of such a government before its barely begun.