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Sweep on 01 August 2010
WilliamWatts said:

It doesn't have to be perfect it just has to work that is all. That doesn't mean that it has to be glitch free, quirk free, with the same features as the other two interfaces. All three interfaces have their quirks, their glitches and they all have various features which don't translate to the other interfaces.

In the end of the day, the Eyetoy sold what? 10M units on some of the most quirky/glitchy gameplay ever. Kinect has fewer glitches and performs even better than that and it appears to be getting significantly more support from both the manufacturer and 3rd parties.

It doesn't really matter how crappy the interface is. All the interfaces are crappy from at least one perspective and that encompasses mouse and keyboard, touch screens and dual analogue sticks along with Wiimote, Move and Kinect. They just have to be somewhere between good enough and good to allow for people to be entertained in using them. In the end the best possible outcome is that people get entertained in using the interface, the games will be doing that.

The ironic thing is that for some people the glitches would probably add to the enjoyment of the console.

 

Do you really want to compare the Eyetoy price vs the Kinect price....? 



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dahuman on 01 August 2010
FF_Fanatic said:
makingmusic476 said:
FF_Fanatic said:
damndl0ser said:


I don't see how anyone can say that Ubuntu is the best os ever made.   I have had several versions of it over the years and while it is a really good OS it is no where near Win7.  

An example:

When I upgraded from Vista ( which was shit), I had no problems whatsoever with the process.  It found all the drivers and everything worked like a charm.  On the other hand when I tried upgrading a couple of computers at work to  Ubuntu 10.4 I had more problems than it was worth.  Finding drivers was an event in its own.  And for a lot of computers you either have to make your own drivers or have someone do it for you.  Good luck with that.  

 

While Eventually Linux may be better than Windows at some time in the distant future, it is no where near as good right now.  Compatability issues, driver issues and install issues alone should prove to most that 10.4 still has a ways to go.  And until the majority of people use Linux, there will always be issues with compatability.


I disagree I have had zero problems with ubuntu 10 since i changed from windows 7, which oddly enough got really slow to the point where i was shouting at it, and this is with having antivirus, firewall, spyware, and spam protection, at some point i just got really fed up with windows to be honest i can't stand windows anymore and I am realy happy with ubuntu now and no problems finding any drivers, but it does help if you check the compatibility before you change OS

Whaaa??  I upgraded my PC back in early May alongside installing Windows 7, and I think I've restarted my PC once since doing so.  I have yet to have an issue with any slowdown, outside of occasionally having to restart Firefox (which is probably due to the fact that I have like 100 tabs open and Firefox has that silly ram glitch >_>).

Windows 7 is really something else.  I'm incredibly impressed by how streamlined and optimized it is compared to Vista.  It uses less resources for most tasks, and somehow avoids becoming a bloated ram hog the longer you leave your PC on, which was a major problem with older versions of Windows.

I absolutely love it. 

Granted, I haven't had much experience with Linux or OSX to compare.  I plan to format the HDD from my old build and mess around with Ubuntu in the near future, since I've always wanted to check it out.


well i have had win 7 since last year and i only changed to ubuntu this month, to be honest win7 is fast at first, but it did get slow on me just as xp did to me before it... about 10mins to load up properly, where ubutu is up and running within a minute....

you should try out ubuntu 10, it's definately stating to get much better, i did try going linux about 2 years ago and it was still awkward back then, but ubuntu 10 detected all my drivers i needed for me, the only trouble i had was installing flash for x64, but there are guides for that which make it easier, also now i have wine so i can still play on some of my games:):) it's so easy to use now i love ubuntu:):)


few things, the windows slowdown only happens on the 9x kernel(shitty memory managing) which has gone away since Windows 2000 when they fully switched to the NT kernel, any slowdown you see after that version is most likely because you fucked up your computer, and is the same way with Windows 7. Linux is good for many things, but it's better as a developer OS or a Server OS as to a normal end user OS because there is no real support and most people don't know wtf is going on and still fuck up their machines in linux. Ubuntu does not have all the latest drivers, like I said, no on the spot support for things like the netbook GMA 3150 or even the right support for Pinerail stuff atm, I'm sure it will be in it eventually, but don't expect the latest hardwares to run well in Linux as they come out, that luxury is with Windows.



MrT-Tar on 01 August 2010

ouch cubed

I honestly think Move will be better supported and generally all round better than Kinect, but I think Move will suffer from an inability of shake off being seen as a sort of 'wii ripoff' by a lot of consumers who are not that knowledgable about games.




damndl0ser on 01 August 2010
dahuman said:
FF_Fanatic said:
makingmusic476 said:
FF_Fanatic said:
damndl0ser said:


I don't see how anyone can say that Ubuntu is the best os ever made.   I have had several versions of it over the years and while it is a really good OS it is no where near Win7.  

An example:

When I upgraded from Vista ( which was shit), I had no problems whatsoever with the process.  It found all the drivers and everything worked like a charm.  On the other hand when I tried upgrading a couple of computers at work to  Ubuntu 10.4 I had more problems than it was worth.  Finding drivers was an event in its own.  And for a lot of computers you either have to make your own drivers or have someone do it for you.  Good luck with that.  

 

While Eventually Linux may be better than Windows at some time in the distant future, it is no where near as good right now.  Compatability issues, driver issues and install issues alone should prove to most that 10.4 still has a ways to go.  And until the majority of people use Linux, there will always be issues with compatability.


I disagree I have had zero problems with ubuntu 10 since i changed from windows 7, which oddly enough got really slow to the point where i was shouting at it, and this is with having antivirus, firewall, spyware, and spam protection, at some point i just got really fed up with windows to be honest i can't stand windows anymore and I am realy happy with ubuntu now and no problems finding any drivers, but it does help if you check the compatibility before you change OS

Whaaa??  I upgraded my PC back in early May alongside installing Windows 7, and I think I've restarted my PC once since doing so.  I have yet to have an issue with any slowdown, outside of occasionally having to restart Firefox (which is probably due to the fact that I have like 100 tabs open and Firefox has that silly ram glitch >_>).

Windows 7 is really something else.  I'm incredibly impressed by how streamlined and optimized it is compared to Vista.  It uses less resources for most tasks, and somehow avoids becoming a bloated ram hog the longer you leave your PC on, which was a major problem with older versions of Windows.

I absolutely love it. 

Granted, I haven't had much experience with Linux or OSX to compare.  I plan to format the HDD from my old build and mess around with Ubuntu in the near future, since I've always wanted to check it out.


well i have had win 7 since last year and i only changed to ubuntu this month, to be honest win7 is fast at first, but it did get slow on me just as xp did to me before it... about 10mins to load up properly, where ubutu is up and running within a minute....

you should try out ubuntu 10, it's definately stating to get much better, i did try going linux about 2 years ago and it was still awkward back then, but ubuntu 10 detected all my drivers i needed for me, the only trouble i had was installing flash for x64, but there are guides for that which make it easier, also now i have wine so i can still play on some of my games:):) it's so easy to use now i love ubuntu:):)


few things, the windows slowdown only happens on the 9x kernel(shitty memory managing) which has gone away since Windows 2000 when they fully switched to the NT kernel, any slowdown you see after that version is most likely because you fucked up your computer, and is the same way with Windows 7. Linux is good for many things, but it's better as a developer OS or a Server OS as to a normal end user OS because there is no real support and most people don't know wtf is going on and still fuck up their machines in linux. Ubuntu does not have all the latest drivers, like I said, no on the spot support for things like the netbook GMA 3150 or even the right support for Pinerail stuff atm, I'm sure it will be in it eventually, but don't expect the latest hardwares to run well in Linux as they come out, that luxury is with Windows.

I couldn't have said that better myself.  The only reason I put UBUNTU on my work computers was to turn them into servers (my work has a pretty fat pipe  when it comes to bandwidth).  Which is what linux does best.  For all around every day use Ubuntu is no where near the same lvl as Win 7.  But I will give credit where it is due, on the server side I happen to like Ubuntu a little better.   With this said, Windows has came a long way and it is now suitable for servers as well.  

A lot of people piss on Microsoft products just "because".  And its really sad.  I personally don't like a lot of products but I will not hate on them for ignorant reasons.  I just wish more people would try something first and judge it for what it is and not who makes it.



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Jordahn on 01 August 2010
themanwithnoname said:

I love how it's the same crowd always in these Kinect threads. I don't know why I bother reading any of them anymore. I can already figure what people are going to say based on their account names.

EDIT: That's IGN UK, not IGN.


And your point is...



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