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Well, been at the cinema a lot recently and have been waowed by 3D. The movies are deep, detailed and the glasses aren't a big issue to me at all. (from the reactions of the audiences I'm not alone, the kids love it the most - yes, I may have watched Shrek 3D lol).Best part is actually the advertisments before the movies. The Sony 3D advert that you may have seen in 2D, is unreal in 3D - as is the Sky football in 3D.

So, I want in, but need to know:

- What's the difference between 3D ready and Full 3D?

- Does a smaller screen make it worse?

- Are the glasses that come with the screens good?

Looking at smaller screens at the minute (22"-27") for personal use. Will probably put off buying until this fall at least.



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i am interested in  3d but i don't have any 3d tv yet so i can't help you with quesitons :P



Will update this post and answer your questions in an hour...

 

Edit - Ok here we go.

- What's the difference between 3D ready and Full 3D?

3D ready are displays which had somesort of 3D capability. As you may know, there are various formats for 3D, all of which accomplish the same stereoscopic effect. There were no standards for 3D prior to 2009 and HDMI 1.4 hence various companies supported various 3D methods. All those displays were called "3D ready"

Full 3D means that the display is capable of displaying 1080p resolution for both eyes and is certified with the new HDMI 1.4 standard.

- Does a smaller screen make it worse?

For gaming, a smaller screen is fine since its more about immersion with gameplay and 3D visuals. For movies and other stuff which only require viewing, smaller screen is definetly worse. I have a 67 inch DLP Samsung which is 3D ready using checkerboard 3D method (each pixel shows different image for each eye - 720p per eye) and a 22 inch Viewsonic 120 hz monitor which is 3D ready using frame sequential method (2 frames flashing at 60 hz per eye) and I pretty much don't use the monitor anymore for 3D. There is no contest...

Note: there are no small screens which are HDMI 1.4 certified yet. 40 inch is the smallest. I will explain later...

- Are the glasses that come with the screens good?

LG ones I have not seen yet but Samsung ones are good. Sony ones, you bet. But Panasonic ones...god awful! They let too much light in as they have gaps on the side. They were made like that because of people that have glasses already and may want to wear them on top.  Best Full 3D TV (panasonic plasmas) come with worst glasses, go figure. Luckily there are companies like RealD and their Xpan 103 series as well Nvidia 3D vision ( needs a PC and doesn't work with Full 3D tvs yet but will soon) which are wonderful. 

 

Making the decision for what kind of 3D display to go for you should depend on your level of willingness to play with technology and settings.

New 3D TVs will work with the Sky 3D HD box so you can watch 3D soccer, they will work with PS3 and they will work with 3D bluray with minimal to no involment from you. However they are pricey (2000 bucks for 40 inch in USA) and glasses are pricey as are the bluray players. If you have 4000 bucks to spend and you jsut want the TV delivered and plugged in and have everything work out of the box...this is the way to go.

If you are somewhat tech savy and have the patience to work with settings and equipment and are willing to buy (or already own) a PC with a high end video card, you have a much wider choice of displays and technology you can use. Using this method you can watch Sky soccer, and you can watch 3D blurays. One thing you won't be able to do is play PS3 3D games... but you will hardly notice it after you play Metro 2033, Just Cause 2 or Battlefield BC2 in 3D on the PC.

If you are looking for something smaller (22-25 inches), the later method is the only way to go for now.



haha, I was about to post to say 'talk to disolitude', but instead went looking for that 3D thread he created. I couldn't find it though.



disolitude is way more knowlegable in 3D then I am but...

Full 3D means that the tv you buy will display in 3D when you take it home.

3D ready means the tv is capible of displaying in 3D but a seperate adaption device (not included) will be needed first.

smaller screens aren't exactly bad but the larger screens are certainly more impressive.  remember, the 3D effects won't extend of the side of the screen so the larger the screen the more 3D awsomeness.

i can't comment on the particulars of the glasses.  as i understand it each pair of glasses is uniquely tuned for a specific tv (i.e. glasses for a sony tv won't work with glasses for a samsung tv and vice versa) so if there is any major differences make sure you understand them before you purchase a 3D tv. 

oh and gratz on your future purchase.  i'm kind of in the market for one too but i'm waiting for lbp2, killzone3, ect to release first.



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Arcturus said:

haha, I was about to post to say 'talk to disolitude', but instead went looking for that 3D thread he created. I couldn't find it though.


Is this the one you are talking about
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=107888

I don't think you will find one smaller than 40" inch for now BBH

edit: never thought about monitors was just looking at tv's.



correct me if I am wrong
stop me if I am bias
I love a good civilised debate (but only if we can learn something).

 

@909

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-SM2233RZ-Monitor-Gloss-Black/dp/B001TH77I6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1278625753&sr=8-3

I was looking at something like this for example, but not sure what it has going for it.

Very rare to come across good 3D information lol, I googled my questions and got bored trying to find answers.



@9009pc: Yep, that's the thread I was trying to find. Although, I thought it also contained information about current 3D TVs on the market.



Posted an update to my initial post. If you have any specific questions...fell free to ask.

Off topic: I haven't updated the thread I made about 3D as I currently do not own a new Full 3D TV. I have read about them, I know how they work but I haven't gotten to play with them yet hence I do not feel posting in a thread without any first hand experience.



If your looking for a 3D tv, don't go for the Smasung TVs...well not just yet.

There is currently an issue with Quality as the product was rushed, Samsung wanted to be the 1st manufacturer to have3D TV's so they sacrificed quality.

currently known issues with the sets include, 3D infrared emmiter failure, screen failure, HDMI failure, and USB slot failure. Most issues are being fixed via firmware, but I would suggest waiting to at least to the end of the year so that these quality issues are refined so that these issues don't happen as much as they are happening now.

 

As for my opinion of 3D, I think it a load of gimmick crap, I dislike the technology and see no benifit just yet, I'll join in the 3D bandwagon when it's holograms, with holograms seeing depth will come natural to the eye...I just wonder when this tech will become cheap enough for mainstream.