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@Khuutra

For one It was embarrassing for me to watch alone behind my work computer so I can only imagine how the attendees felt.

What did the ponchos, weird music, dancers and huge elephant have to do with all this?  Color me unimpressed but if I was going there I would only be interested in what Kinect had to offer, not witness a cult gathering.

When they finally showed people playing games, they weren't responsive. Take the river raft game for instants. As soon as the kids got stuck in a wall due to lag, the older guy shoved them off the floor ... star wars demo was just a video with a guy mimicking it. I mean I would have turn a blind eye but it happened at least twice where the character acted on its own. That or kinect really foresees your movement.



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thx1139 said:

Jaded gamers afraid that they will never sit on a couch with a controller in thier hands again may not get Kinect, but it seems the mainstream press is and it appears the mainsteam press also got the point of the event last night.

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2010/06/kinect-e3/2/


This doesn't work quite as well when you consider that they're talking about it being a good show htat showed off Kinect in no meaningful way whatsoever- everyone saw that the demos were prerecorded.

@hatmoza:

I see. Thank you for sharing



Khuutra,

Mainstream press doesnt care and honestly we shouldnt either that gameplaying was prerecorded and inserted into a choregraphed performance.  Especially when the press then gets to try the actual games themselves outside of a stadium.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

thx1139 said:

Khuutra,

Mainstream press doesnt care and honestly we shouldnt either that gameplaying was prerecorded and inserted into a choregraphed performance.  Especially when the press then gets to try the actual games themselves outside of a stadium.

The mainstream pres acknowledges that thhey know no more about Kinect coming out of that show than they did going in. It was a Cirque de Soleil performance. It didn't sell Kinect at all.

Which is terrible, because selling Kinect was kind of the point. Shit, Pachter did more of that in the last paragraph of this article than that entire show.



Well, in my opinion (and maybe in some other opinions too) the first conference was kind of embarassing. I hope the X360 conference shows some real games instead of... of... Kinectimals (What. The. Fuck.)



 

 

 

 

 

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haxxiy said:

Well, in my opinion (and maybe in some other opinions too) the first conference was kind of embarassing. I hope the X360 conference shows some real games instead of... of... Kinectimals (What. The. Fuck.)

Hey, I loved petting a virtual tiger with my virtual hand and teaching her tricks. Back in 2001, when Molyneux called it "Black & White", rushed a bad god game around the creatures and hadn't still moved on to creepy virtual kids.



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kowenicki said:
theprof00 said:
kowenicki said:

06/14/2010

Microsoft Kinect - launch and first hands on impressions


I've been to some strange dos in my time, but tonight's launch of Project Natal - which we now have to call Kinect - took the biscuit. And then smothered it in chocolate and cheese.

Microsoft's much-vaunted motion control system for its Xbox 360 was presented to the world via the medium of a Cirque du Soleil show specially “imagined” by a company with very deep pockets indeed.

On arrival, every single audience member was presented with a white cape, with padded shoulders wide enough to turn Joan Collins jade. When the light struck us during the show. We glowed. When we sat back, we clashed shoulders. But you can't have everything.

The image you see above, grabbed before a security guard stepped in to order us to put our phones away, features several of the UK's leading tech journos, including Jason Bradbury of The Gadget Show (in the hat). Proof that, on him, anything looks good. The cape I mean, not the hat.

Anyway, once we'd been herded into the cavernous Galen Center and forced to endure nearly one hour of new age wailing masquerading as music, the show got under way just as the man behind me's patience snapped.

The Avatar-inspired show consisted largely of 20 or so members of Cirque du Soleil sitting on a collection of fake rocks, while a fake family positioned in a fake revolving living room high above the rocks put Natal, sorry Kinect, through its paces.

You really had to be there.

Most of the games on show take their cue rather transparently from the type of cartoon sports titles that has served Nintendo so well over the years, though the novelty of not holding a controller at all may sway customers to trade up.

The biggest whoop of the evening, especially from Mr Bradbury, was for a Star Wars game, in which you get to draw and control your light saber with your bare hands.

The show lasted an hour, after which we retired for some hands on time with Natal, sorry Kinect. Or should that be “hands-off time”?

And what's the verdict on the controller -less controller?

Well, it works. When you move, your onscreen avatar tracks you perfectly. The games are fine of their type, though difficult to get excited about. The experience of playing with no controller may be new, but the onscreen presentation is familiar almost to the point of contempt.

You can pet a tiger, play ten-pin bowling, race cartoon cars or learn to dance by following an onscreen avatar. Stop me if you have played this one before.

You may think I am gratuitously trying to pick holes in Kinect here, but if you live in a flat with wooden floors rather than a huge concrete American house, you should seriously consider fitting sound-proofing if you don't want your neighbours to hate, hunt and then kill you.

Kinect is obviously designed to make the Xbox 360 - a console notorious for its male slant - family-friendly at last. At the right price (and we don't know what that is yet), it may prove strong enough to drag the Xbox out of the boy's bedroom, but whether a souped-up Wii experience can make Wii owners ruch out to buy a new console and accessory remains to be seen.

All of that said, the technology is phenomenally impressive, and controlling your screen with nothing but your bare hands does raise a smile.

I just wish the software had raised a bit more excitement, that's all.

Can I take the white poncho off now please?

 

Sounds to me as thought the tech is fine... just needs software.....  obviously.


of course you would be one to post that which completely disregarded that the games were videos and performed actions before the actual people did them.



I'm waitingfor the actual launch demo... this is a choreographed celebrity launch party that was quite frankly... pointless!

we shall see... clearly they cant pull choreographed demo's forever.. so whats the big deal?

I wrote in another thread that I was actually really pumped to see this in action and was even considering buying it and that I even had HYPE! I am sorely disappointed. Even reading that log about what they showed...running in place, upside down characters, avatars flying in space...just none of it is appealing at all. Except the star wars thing, which could have been great if there was an actual demo. Hopefully it is on the floor and people can give their first person reactions to it.

From what I've seen though, it seems like they don't know what to do with the hardware and are spending ungodly amounts of money to compensate. Their conference is live on MTV AND Spike and live in Time Square AND they had cirque du soleil. I can't imagine how much money was spent on this.. and it's really reminiscent of old MS ideology of throwing money at the problem which I really disagree with.

On top of that, the 189$ price tag is insane.



More good mainstream press "Good Morning America"

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/microsoft-unveils-controller-free-gaming-world/story?id=10907707

Tagline: Look ma no hands

Quote: They know mom is making the buying decisions so they are putting fitness games in this to get mom, dad, the kids off the couch.



Its libraries that sell systems not a single game.

at $189 its doomed to fail, I couldnt even begin to consider spending that much on a 'glorified eyetoy'.



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i say over 105$ it will not sell at a rate software companies will want to develop for it.