he is genralising whole genr on 1 game, tht is th worst thng u cn do in a argument. did u make tis thread for flamebait op? 

If i play oblivion (tht buggy game) and say wrpg's are dead is tht fair?

ff13 can be whatvr it wnts, bt 4 me it was bettr thn all othr games this gen and i hd th most fun.

The definition that you're giving is VERY strict and excludes some of the best JRPGs, Fire Emblem for example. Also, last time I checked, Modern Warfare has experience points, and they level you up. How is that not an RPG? The same happens in Counter-Strike, except it doesn't carry over from match to match, which is why i called it a limited RPG. Both of these games have separate battles (in the form of matches) with a specialized system.

I'll continue to focus on the definition, thank you very much. If I can't define things by their definition, then classification means nothing.

If I asked for a peanut butter and grape jelly sandwich, and I got a peanut butter and strawberry sandwich, would they be the same? They both share the connotation as PB&J sandwiches, but they are two very different things (especially since strawberry jelly tastes like garbage). 

lol...will you hush.

last time u told me to hush u got banned, so i wudn't do tht again dude.

@lestatdrk

I hve not played daggerfall, played only oblivion. Is a ok game, bt combat is boring nd th story is vry disapointng, so are wrpg's dead? no they r not.

last time u told me to hush u got banned, so i wudn't do tht again dude.

@lestatdrk

I hve not played daggerfall, played only oblivion. Is a ok game, bt combat is boring nd th story is vry disapointng, so are wrpg's dead? no they r not.

Modern Warfare is not an RPG because it doesn't have a specialized system for battles. The entire game is one big system for shooting.

Fire Emblem, I don't know much about, but I do think there is a system that allows you to power up according to the enemies you defeat. If not, it's a strategy game.

The definition is strict because that's what RPGs are.

And no, the connotations aren't the same. PBJ has a connotation of peanut butter and jelly. Meanwhile, hate and loathe have the same definition but not connotation. In colloquial English, you can't stick to rigid definitions because it hardly makes sense. Hell, not even proper English can you.

While I may not agree with your spelling Akiba. I do agree with what your saying.

I fail to see how we can't live by only definitions, that's kinda the POINT of language, isn't it? To give things definitions?

last time u told me to hush u got banned, so i wudn't do tht again dude.

@lestatdrk

I hve not played daggerfall, played only oblivion. Is a ok game, bt combat is boring nd th story is vry disapointng, so are wrpg's dead? no they r not.

Oh, I wasn't disagreeing with you about how we shouldn't generalize an entire genre because of one game, because I also think that as well, that's what I said on my first post . I was just pointing out that particular series (Elder Scrolls) of WRPGs are known for being very buggy

I know that it's difficult sometimes to adapt to the very polar differences between both RPG classifications. It reminded me when I started playing Oblivion in 2007. At that same time I was playing SMT: DDS2, so I was juggling between both. The difference between both is staggering, yet, I loved going between both games. Kinda puts the entire genre in perspective