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Is America Exceptional?

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stof said:
So then what's Canada?

America's exceptional hat.



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mrstickball said:
stof said:
So then what's Canada?

America's exceptional hat.

 

Seriously though, the big difference there is that Canada isn't nearly as racially diverse.



Zucas said:
Or a breeding ground for American nationalism. Either way, both are something I don't like.

Is America a country that has left a profound mark on history and considering the circumstances, the unknown future? Yes absolutely and I don't think anyone would argue against that. But let's just leave it at that. Why try and start acting like we are some super race among men. Why start acting like this is the only group of people to identify with one-selves as those who have done something amazing in history. If ya want to say America is an exceptional... ya know what fine... I can deal with that. But don't turn it into some racist-nationalist propaganda to assert America as the greatest thing since fire. And on the other side, stop trying to bring America down at every god-giving chance you have... the effects America has had on this world have been extraordinary and trying to deny it based on simple bias is silly.

On the whole exceptionalism thing though, I try to not really make those arguments until the civilization exists no more. Meaning I don't think this is a discussion for us. I think we could argue some past civilizations have been exceptional, if we were to go by the term, but we haven't seen America all the way through yet. But really, does it even matter if you aren't a historian... hmm.

I don't think you mean racist.  I mean, American Exceptionalism is partially based on the fact that America has so many different races.  Which actually has been show to have a general positive effect when it comes to thinking "outside of the box", which is one reason why universitys actually try to be racially diverse.

 

As for the greatest thing since fire?

 



Slimebeast said:
Yes, no matter if you love it or hate it the USA is truly exceptional.

The USA is an exceptional and even unique nation on so many levels (its culture, history, economy, military, science, influence on the rest of the world, the mentality of its people etc), that you'd have to go back to the Ancient times to find an equivalent.

The Romans was a country that both had racism and diversity. Their mythical origin is like America's. It starts with a pilgremidge and ideally, a merging of the native and immigrating population.

 

The Romans were created as a result of Trojans and Latin people merging. The surrounding Latin states were considered non-Roman. Carthage, Gaul, Egypt, etc were considered barbarians. The later emperors of the empire, came from those areas, defending themselves from the Huns, Goths, etc. The Visigoths wanted to take refuge within the Roman empire, and if negotiations would have taken place, maybe there wouldn't have been a sack of Rome.

 

Those who were once slaves in Rome, became Freedmen, who then began to become the economic powerhouse of the state.

Fucking dark ages =/ If there only was gun powder, then cheap ass barbarians couldn't overwhelm civilized people with fucking horses.