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lestatdark on 15 May 2010
dtewi said:
lestatdark said:
Khuutra said:
lestatdark said:
Khuutra said:

Necron wasn't actually a villain, he was just a boss fight. He doesn't count in this discussion!

Actually he was the villain. He's the one that wanted the entire world to go back to nothing, because he himself was nothing. Kuja just threw a hissy fit against Garland and Zidane when he went batshit insane in Terra

Kuja and Garland are still the ones who engineered everything: Necron only took notice of the party when you took out Kuja.

"What up bitches, I heard the party you was having, now I will destroy you"

He wasn't relevant to the plot in any way; not actually a villain at all.

Yet the goals of both Kuja and Garland didn't even revolve around the crystal until Kuja went Berserk

The entire 4th CD was just an excuse for the introduction of Necron. Of course he wasn't relevant to the plot, but the fact is that he was the only one that trully had a unshattering motive to destroy everything. 

I don't agree with his introduction as I don't think it ever made any sense. The game would have been just fine if it had ended with Trance Kuja. 

Necron was just the personification of death when the Crystal was destroyed, he was there to return everything to nothingness because the Crystal was gone.

Since Zidane and Co. defeated him, the world was saved. Yay!

Not the best villian, but a good final boss since he was annoying as hell to beat.

OT: Ultimecia? *laughs*

Final Fantasy is notorious for having villians that, well, suck.

Kefka is the absolute best in the series, no question.

I think Kefka's one of the few video game villains who actually does what he set to do right from the beginning. 

Genocide, World Destruction, imprisoning an entire race and almost driving them into extinction, becoming a true god.

All that, while being an Evil Clown  



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AbbathTheGrim on 15 May 2010

I won't argue how good she is as a character but I can honestly tell you that she gives you the most badass fight amongst all the FFs. You can level up till 100, you can level up al GFs and she will pick the party members that she wants to fight, she will kill you GFs in a single attack, she will destroy your magic and finally keep you busy for more than 30 minutes. I just beat the last boss of FFXIII and once I digested the ending and the fight, I could only keep thiking about how badass the Ultimecia final fight of FFVIII was. This thread appeared to me today as if called by my subconscience.



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Khuutra on 15 May 2010
dtewi said:

Necron was just the personification of death when the Crystal was destroyed, he was there to return everything to nothingness because the Crystal was gone.

Since Zidane and Co. defeated him, the world was saved. Yay!

Not the best villian, but a good final boss since he was annoying as hell to beat.

OT: Ultimecia? *laughs*

Final Fantasy is notorious for having villians that, well, suck.

Kefka is the absolute best in the series, no question.

I'm not sure "notorious" means what you think it means



Khuutra on 15 May 2010
lestatdark said:
Khuutra said:

Kuja and Garland are still the ones who engineered everything: Necron only took notice of the party when you took out Kuja.

"What up bitches, I heard the party you was having, now I will destroy you"

He wasn't relevant to the plot in any way; not actually a villain at all.

Yet the goals of both Kuja and Garland didn't even revolve around the crystal until Kuja went Berserk

The entire 4th CD was just an excuse for the introduction of Necron. Of course he wasn't relevant to the plot, but the fact is that he was the only one that trully had a unshattering motive to destroy everything. 

I don't agree with his introduction as I don't think it ever made any sense. The game would have been just fine if it had ended with Trance Kuja. 

Help me jog my memory.

Kuja was the one who opted to destroy the Crystal, right?



dtewi on 15 May 2010
Khuutra said:
dtewi said:

Necron was just the personification of death when the Crystal was destroyed, he was there to return everything to nothingness because the Crystal was gone.

Since Zidane and Co. defeated him, the world was saved. Yay!

Not the best villian, but a good final boss since he was annoying as hell to beat.

OT: Ultimecia? *laughs*

Final Fantasy is notorious for having villians that, well, suck.

Kefka is the absolute best in the series, no question.

I'm not sure "notorious" means what you think it means

I'm sure I know the context is correct there.



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Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

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AkibaFan on 15 May 2010

yes kefka dus wht he wnts to, but he still dies in th end, so evn he fails



dtewi on 15 May 2010
AkibaFan said:
yes kefka dus wht he wnts to, but he still dies in th end, so evn he fails

Every villian has to die for some reason.



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

Johann on 15 May 2010
lestatdark said:
dtewi said:
lestatdark said:
Khuutra said:
lestatdark said:
Khuutra said:

Necron wasn't actually a villain, he was just a boss fight. He doesn't count in this discussion!

Actually he was the villain. He's the one that wanted the entire world to go back to nothing, because he himself was nothing. Kuja just threw a hissy fit against Garland and Zidane when he went batshit insane in Terra

Kuja and Garland are still the ones who engineered everything: Necron only took notice of the party when you took out Kuja.

"What up bitches, I heard the party you was having, now I will destroy you"

He wasn't relevant to the plot in any way; not actually a villain at all.

Yet the goals of both Kuja and Garland didn't even revolve around the crystal until Kuja went Berserk

The entire 4th CD was just an excuse for the introduction of Necron. Of course he wasn't relevant to the plot, but the fact is that he was the only one that trully had a unshattering motive to destroy everything. 

I don't agree with his introduction as I don't think it ever made any sense. The game would have been just fine if it had ended with Trance Kuja. 

Necron was just the personification of death when the Crystal was destroyed, he was there to return everything to nothingness because the Crystal was gone.

Since Zidane and Co. defeated him, the world was saved. Yay!

Not the best villian, but a good final boss since he was annoying as hell to beat.

OT: Ultimecia? *laughs*

Final Fantasy is notorious for having villians that, well, suck.

Kefka is the absolute best in the series, no question.

I think Kefka's one of the few video game villains who actually does what he set to do right from the beginning. 

Genocide, World Destruction, imprisoning an entire race and almost driving them into extinction, becoming a true god.

All that, while being an Evil Clown  

Venat also acomplishes exactly what he set out to do.

I don't consider him too much of a villain though. An antagonist, sure, but not a villain.

 



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lestatdark on 15 May 2010
Johann said:
lestatdark said:
dtewi said:
lestatdark said:
Khuutra said:
lestatdark said:
Khuutra said:

Necron wasn't actually a villain, he was just a boss fight. He doesn't count in this discussion!

Actually he was the villain. He's the one that wanted the entire world to go back to nothing, because he himself was nothing. Kuja just threw a hissy fit against Garland and Zidane when he went batshit insane in Terra

Kuja and Garland are still the ones who engineered everything: Necron only took notice of the party when you took out Kuja.

"What up bitches, I heard the party you was having, now I will destroy you"

He wasn't relevant to the plot in any way; not actually a villain at all.

Yet the goals of both Kuja and Garland didn't even revolve around the crystal until Kuja went Berserk

The entire 4th CD was just an excuse for the introduction of Necron. Of course he wasn't relevant to the plot, but the fact is that he was the only one that trully had a unshattering motive to destroy everything. 

I don't agree with his introduction as I don't think it ever made any sense. The game would have been just fine if it had ended with Trance Kuja. 

Necron was just the personification of death when the Crystal was destroyed, he was there to return everything to nothingness because the Crystal was gone.

Since Zidane and Co. defeated him, the world was saved. Yay!

Not the best villian, but a good final boss since he was annoying as hell to beat.

OT: Ultimecia? *laughs*

Final Fantasy is notorious for having villians that, well, suck.

Kefka is the absolute best in the series, no question.

I think Kefka's one of the few video game villains who actually does what he set to do right from the beginning. 

Genocide, World Destruction, imprisoning an entire race and almost driving them into extinction, becoming a true god.

All that, while being an Evil Clown  

Venat also acomplishes exactly what he set out to do.

I don't consider him too much of a villain though. An antagonist, sure, but not a villain.

 

Venat's motives are completely different from total destruction. 

Venat wanted to go against the will of the Occuria, to give mankind their rightful place in Ivalice, ending the era of the gods (the Ocurrians).

Kefka just wanted to become god itself, if he had to destroy to world to do it, then it didn't matter for him. 



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Khuutra on 15 May 2010

Venat and Kefka both got what they wanted, though Kefka didn't get it forever.