ssj12 said: selnor said: Xoj said: kowenicki said: Lord Flashheart said: That's what I was thinking? If they do exist other than the 15" one of course they would. I'm shocked he owns a non-sony product. lol. Me too, the 11 inch OLED costs £2500 here... and of course an OLED looks better than a LED, they are totally different. http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10151&catalogId=10551&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665327724 well they have it for a while, :p while samsung was getting LED, sony also OLED 40' on sale. I think the point they are making to you is that your comparing LED to OLED. Basically, Sony dont make the best LCD's, dont make the best LED's. And when we have comparative OLED's to compare you'll find they wont have the best OLED's. At least according to the researchers out there. well remember they are also making wallpaper TV too. Frankly Sony R&Ds some interesting tech. Implementation might not be the best, but its always interesting and of good quality.

Of course. But that doesn't interest me when I'm at Curry's for a newTV. ;)

selnor said: Xoj said: kowenicki said: Lord Flashheart said: That's what I was thinking? If they do exist other than the 15" one of course they would. I'm shocked he owns a non-sony product. lol. Me too, the 11 inch OLED costs £2500 here... and of course an OLED looks better than a LED, they are totally different. http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10151&catalogId=10551&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665327724 well they have it for a while, :p while samsung was getting LED, sony also OLED 40' on sale. I think the point they are making to you is that your comparing LED to OLED. Basically, Sony dont make the best LCD's, dont make the best LED's. And when we have comparative OLED's to compare you'll find they wont have the best OLED's. At least according to the researchers out there.

oh it was a typo meant OLED, samsung got later at OLED. i mean.

they just sell cheaper.

Xoj said: selnor said: Xoj said: kowenicki said: Lord Flashheart said: That's what I was thinking? If they do exist other than the 15" one of course they would. I'm shocked he owns a non-sony product. lol. Me too, the 11 inch OLED costs £2500 here... and of course an OLED looks better than a LED, they are totally different. http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10151&catalogId=10551&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665327724 well they have it for a while, :p while samsung was getting LED, sony also OLED 40' on sale. I think the point they are making to you is that your comparing LED to OLED. Basically, Sony dont make the best LCD's, dont make the best LED's. And when we have comparative OLED's to compare you'll find they wont have the best OLED's. At least according to the researchers out there. oh it was a typo meant OLED, samsung got later at OLED. i mean. they just sell cheaper.

Ahhh. NO worries then. Move along...... ;)

I'd Rather get an OLED T.v. rather than a 3'D one....

selnor said: Jordahn said: selnor said: Just to point out, reccomended is different to best of. What Hifi in UK ( The most respected UK Home Cinema magazine along with Home Cinema ) Both dont have any SOny or Sharp products in the best of 2009. Thats top 5 for Bluray players, HDTV's etc etc. Not 1 single Sony or Sharp product. But then that is out of what was available to physically buy off shelves at the end of 2009 in UK. Invalid - attempt to interject one's personal interpretation of a word by citing an example of a different source independent of the original source the word was derived from. So thank you for wasting bandwidth.  ;) Um not at all. What Hifi have given a reccomendation to Sony TV's in 2009. But there is no Sony TV's in their beest of 2009. So my point is which you have missed entirely is that a recommendation is entitrely different to Best of. You see?The source that was quoted was not a best of. It was a review with a reccomendation. In other words a good TV. But by no means is it a best of or top 5. :)

When Sound and Vision reviewed the Sony Bravia KDL-55XBR8 55-inch LCD HDTV, they said, "Though pricey, Sony's LED-backlit XBR8 establishes a new performance benchmark for LCD TVs."  And that was 2009.  I don't know about you, but "new performance benchmark for LCD TVs" strongly implies something.  And "top 5" have always been very subjective because no tv technology from any brand is perfect in any setting.  And I'm not claiming that Sound & Vision is always correct.  So what's Sound & Vision's "top 5?"  But as someone else tried pointing out, this thread had nothing to do with Samsung.  Someone had to throw it in for "good measure" as a means to troll.  Very obvious.  I wasn't the one originally trying to point to a single source as the ends of all means as a common cherry picking tactic.  You should be focusing your attention to the ones using subjectiveness to push a point.  But then again, it doesn't surprise me for you to side with those of the same subjective agenda.

Cross-X said: megaman79 said: well, looks like its good timing for all of them.   Oh and lulz @ MS partnering with a Korean company instead of japanese. You know why? Because Samsung and LG HD TVs and 3d TVs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sony Bravia TVs Pretty much when it comes to electronics, Samsung beats Sony any day whether it be laptops, TVs, Phones, etc.

Sony 3DTV's aren't even out yet.

 

Also LG sucks as an electronic compania,how much innovation have they brought.They just start selling any tech that is selling good in the market with their own device.

Samsung is lamost the same as LG but it is better than LG.

 

You saying that Samsung Laptops and phones beat Sony VAIO and Sony Ericcson?...................................lmao

 

Samsung and Sony are almost equal in TV segment.Its just that Sony always prices alot higher than the other that they sell fewer units

 

 

 

superchunk said: LOL to anyone who thought only PS3 could do it... lol, you know your out there. I've said it before and I'll say it again, PS3's 3D (as all home 3D at this point) is a huge flop of shit and needs to be skipped by the consumers. The manufacturers need to realize we won't pay $100's for each pair of glasses just to watch 3D at home. If costs prevent glassless 60" tvs, then at least utilized the passive system theaters use. Worked just fine for Avatar and every other 3D movie and would only cost a few bucks, if that for each pair of glasses. Then I wouldn't mind my 4yr old wearing them or buying 20 for the big sporting events.

wtf are you talking abt?

 

Only PS3 can do 3D IN THE CONSOLES SECTION.

 

This 3D that LG and MS are touting is not real 3D production.This is only how 3DTV's can convert 3D in 3D,they can do this with any media.Even with  PS1.

 

Originally developed and converted 3D will have big differences

Jordahn said: selnor said: Jordahn said: selnor said: Just to point out, reccomended is different to best of. What Hifi in UK ( The most respected UK Home Cinema magazine along with Home Cinema ) Both dont have any SOny or Sharp products in the best of 2009. Thats top 5 for Bluray players, HDTV's etc etc. Not 1 single Sony or Sharp product. But then that is out of what was available to physically buy off shelves at the end of 2009 in UK. Invalid - attempt to interject one's personal interpretation of a word by citing an example of a different source independent of the original source the word was derived from. So thank you for wasting bandwidth.  ;) Um not at all. What Hifi have given a reccomendation to Sony TV's in 2009. But there is no Sony TV's in their beest of 2009. So my point is which you have missed entirely is that a recommendation is entitrely different to Best of. You see?The source that was quoted was not a best of. It was a review with a reccomendation. In other words a good TV. But by no means is it a best of or top 5. :) When Sound and Vision reviewed the Sony Bravia KDL-55XBR8 55-inch LCD HDTV, they said, "Though pricey, Sony's LED-backlit XBR8 establishes a new performance benchmark for LCD TVs."  And that was 2009.  I don't know about you, but "new performance benchmark for LCD TVs" strongly implies something.  And "top 5" have always been very subjective because no tv technology from any brand is perfect in any setting.  And I'm not claiming that Sound & Vision is always correct.  So what's Sound & Vision's "top 5?"  But as someone else tried pointing out, this thread had nothing to do with Samsung.  Someone had to throw it in for "good measure" as a means to troll.  Very obvious.  I wasn't the one originally trying to point to a single source as the ends of all means as a common cherry picking tactic.  You should be focusing your attention to the ones using subjectiveness to push a point.  But then again, it doesn't surprise me for you to side with those of the same subjective agenda.

Hey it's all good. I know people still have there fave companies. But if you can show me a best of list in the last 10 years for Tv's, seperate systems or DVD/BluRays where Sony comes top it would be great. Sony haven't been the leaders or best products in those kinds of markets for about 10 years.Names like Arcam, Marantz, Samsung, Panasonic, Pioneer, Cambridge Audio, Kef, Mordaunt Short etc are all top tier in their fileds.

Solid_Snake4RD said: superchunk said: LOL to anyone who thought only PS3 could do it... lol, you know your out there. I've said it before and I'll say it again, PS3's 3D (as all home 3D at this point) is a huge flop of shit and needs to be skipped by the consumers. The manufacturers need to realize we won't pay $100's for each pair of glasses just to watch 3D at home. If costs prevent glassless 60" tvs, then at least utilized the passive system theaters use. Worked just fine for Avatar and every other 3D movie and would only cost a few bucks, if that for each pair of glasses. Then I wouldn't mind my 4yr old wearing them or buying 20 for the big sporting events. wtf are you talking abt?   Only PS3 can do 3D IN THE CONSOLES SECTION.   This 3D that LG and MS are touting is not real 3D production.This is only how 3DTV's can convert 3D in 3D,they can do this with any media.Even with  PS1.   Originally developed and converted 3D will have big differences

BuZZZZZER UNH UNH.WRONG!You better go listen to Corrinne in her interview. She tells of the problems that arise when developing a game from scratch for 3d gaming on 360. The changes that they have to do graphically. There is no driver issue or anything. It's simply a case of changing the way we see the graphics particles and depth perception. The 360 is every bit as capable as the PS3. And we will see Natal 3d games to. She definately pointed to that. I know it doesnt compute with many peoples perception that the 360 was all but finished. But sorry, the 360 has plenty of power left according to her ( and she is a very very knowledgable person in the industry who has worked with T Sweeney and J Carmack.

selnor said: Jordahn said: selnor said: Jordahn said: selnor said: Just to point out, reccomended is different to best of. What Hifi in UK ( The most respected UK Home Cinema magazine along with Home Cinema ) Both dont have any SOny or Sharp products in the best of 2009. Thats top 5 for Bluray players, HDTV's etc etc. Not 1 single Sony or Sharp product. But then that is out of what was available to physically buy off shelves at the end of 2009 in UK. Invalid - attempt to interject one's personal interpretation of a word by citing an example of a different source independent of the original source the word was derived from. So thank you for wasting bandwidth.  ;) Um not at all. What Hifi have given a reccomendation to Sony TV's in 2009. But there is no Sony TV's in their beest of 2009. So my point is which you have missed entirely is that a recommendation is entitrely different to Best of. You see?The source that was quoted was not a best of. It was a review with a reccomendation. In other words a good TV. But by no means is it a best of or top 5. :) When Sound and Vision reviewed the Sony Bravia KDL-55XBR8 55-inch LCD HDTV, they said, "Though pricey, Sony's LED-backlit XBR8 establishes a new performance benchmark for LCD TVs."  And that was 2009.  I don't know about you, but "new performance benchmark for LCD TVs" strongly implies something.  And "top 5" have always been very subjective because no tv technology from any brand is perfect in any setting.  And I'm not claiming that Sound & Vision is always correct.  So what's Sound & Vision's "top 5?"  But as someone else tried pointing out, this thread had nothing to do with Samsung.  Someone had to throw it in for "good measure" as a means to troll.  Very obvious.  I wasn't the one originally trying to point to a single source as the ends of all means as a common cherry picking tactic.  You should be focusing your attention to the ones using subjectiveness to push a point.  But then again, it doesn't surprise me for you to side with those of the same subjective agenda. Hey it's all good. I know people still have there fave companies. But if you can show me a best of list in the last 10 years for Tv's, seperate systems or DVD/BluRays where Sony comes top it would be great. Sony haven't been the leaders or best products in those kinds of markets for about 10 years.Names like Arcam, Marantz, Samsung, Panasonic, Pioneer, Cambridge Audio, Kef, Mordaunt Short etc are all top tier in their fileds.

Dude, it's got nothing to do with favorite companies.  And I'm not sheep to a "top 5" list of any period: "Oh, no.  The electronic I want is number eight.  It's not in the top five so it must suck."  This is ridiculous.  And you mentioned Marantz which is of high quality, but Marantz is out of the average consumer's price range.  That could "disqualify" it from a "top 5."  And from my extensive studies I have found that SONY product are better that Panasonic products.  Disagree if you'd like, and I can respect that.  I just cannot respect how some uses narrow reasoning to support their claims.  How many time has this site has had top "x" games of "y" console for the year "z"?  What makes the author's opinion of that article factually more valid than anyone else's?  Maybe my life would be a lot easier by taking marching orders from a single source and a handful of sources that think such as I to shelter myself from diverse though.  Nope, that life is NOT or me.  And you said "fave companies"????  [shakes head]

Having to point to a "top 5" as a definitive source is like the kid who brags on their straight A's report cards only to find later in life that he cannot cut in reality because he lacks street sense.