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Jordahn on 11 May 2010
disolitude said:
Jordahn said:

First of all, Sharp makes excellent TV's.  To say that LG and Samsung are better than Sharp is OPINIONATED.  Also, the panels made by Sharp for SONY HDTV's are not the same as the ones that go into Sharp's HDTV's.  Sharp does not use BRAVIA technology.  SONY does.  Let's not cloud the FACTS to push a personal point.

Err...no.

The Bravia and Sharp LCD pannel is exactly the same. Bravia display engine is not found in Sharp TVs and vice versa but the display pannel is exactly the same. Sony does some cool stuff with its display features and Bravias and are better than Sharps, but they certanly aren't buying sharp pannels cause they are the best. They switched from Samsung cause Sharp was cheaper...

Most people that follow TV's know that while Sharp used to be at the top (2007ish), they have fallen behind in quality in the top end models. You won't find many Sharp TVs (if any) that are on any "Best TV listings" these days.

well what do you know...here is such a list for the 2010 models - http://reviews.cnet.com/best-hdtvs/

Well what do you know...  ONE single source to prove a point.  Go to Sound and Vision...

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/category/site-channel/tests-reviews/hdtvs/projectors

You'll find a variety of brands making LCD's and other tv technologies that received their "Certified & Recommended" stamp.



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superchunk on 11 May 2010
puffy said:
superchunk said:
LOL to anyone who thought only PS3 could do it... lol, you know your out there.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, PS3's 3D (as all home 3D at this point) is a huge flop of shit and needs to be skipped by the consumers. The manufacturers need to realize we won't pay $100's for each pair of glasses just to watch 3D at home.

If costs prevent glassless 60" tvs, then at least utilized the passive system theaters use. Worked just fine for Avatar and every other 3D movie and would only cost a few bucks, if that for each pair of glasses. Then I wouldn't mind my 4yr old wearing them or buying 20 for the big sporting events.


You'd need two projector lenses (or two projectors) each polarized differently for that to work. It'd be more expensive than the current set up even if you included 10 shutter glasses in the price and more importantly, it wouldn't be LCD technology which means big, bulky rear projection or just a projector, which isn't a TV.

Actually, I am pretty sure you are wrong here. In Jan/Feb when I was looking at buying my tv, I was very much interested in 3D and I researched the various forms of the technology. You can do the active shutter or the passive version with LCD tvs just fine. The difference is where the 3D effect is actually formulated.

With active shutter the screen looks ok as the glasses take care of the effect. Benefits are that the tv companies can keep the cost of the TVs down as the consumer must purchase expensive glasses.

With a passive system the glasses would be cheap and easily replaceable but, the TV would cost more. I don't believe this type would require a projector.

If I'm mistaken, I'll eat my words, but it really comes down to the tv manufacturers trying to hide the costs of 3D by pushing the overall worse system on the consumer.



puffy on 11 May 2010

May I add that I disagree with all the opinions that Panasonic HDTV's are the best (apart from Pioneer obviously). The picture quality just isn't as good as a similar spec Samsung from what I've seen and I saw a lot of them, in plenty of different stores side by side late last year when I bought mine. I couldn't understand how people saw them as superior after seeing so many in so many different set ups ALL being bettered by the Samsung displays..



 

lilc64 on 11 May 2010

The only thing i dont get about Microsoft going 3D is :With Sony you have a 3D gaming console and a 3D blu ray player all in one. Is Microsoft and LG going to offer something type of package deal where you get a 3D blu ray player. Seems it would kick the price up but they have to make the deal more appetizing.



Lord Flashheart on 11 May 2010

Not new.
Was playing Avatar in 3D on a 360 and LG tv at Gadget show live. Worked fine.



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Ldn.se on 11 May 2010
lilc64 said:
The only thing i dont get about Microsoft going 3D is :With Sony you have a 3D gaming console and a 3D blu ray player all in one. Is Microsoft and LG going to offer something type of package deal where you get a 3D blu ray player. Seems it would kick the price up but they have to make the deal more appetizing.


Multiple DVD 3D movie is an option. No one complains about getting up to change DVD when playing FF13 so it might work.



Shorty11857 on 11 May 2010
Ldn.se said:
lilc64 said:
The only thing i dont get about Microsoft going 3D is :With Sony you have a 3D gaming console and a 3D blu ray player all in one. Is Microsoft and LG going to offer something type of package deal where you get a 3D blu ray player. Seems it would kick the price up but they have to make the deal more appetizing.


Multiple DVD 3D movie is an option. No one complains about getting up to change DVD when playing FF13 so it might work.

A multiple DVD movie can't be compared to FF13 unless FF13 comes on 40 DVDs.

 

Anyway, not looking forward to this, never liked 3D never will, one pair of glasses is enough



Xoj on 11 May 2010
Grooski said:
Cross-X said:
megaman79 said:

well, looks like its good timing for all of them.

 

Oh and lulz @ MS partnering with a Korean company instead of japanese.

You know why?

Because Samsung and LG HD TVs and 3d TVs >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sony Bravia TVs

Pretty much when it comes to electronics, Samsung beats Sony any day whether it be laptops, TVs, Phones, etc.

 

Yeah you keep telling yourself that.

Sony TV are top quality, they are pricier, that main advance samsung and LG have.

 

but  certainly those OLED bravia destroy my samsung LED.



selnor on 11 May 2010
Jordahn said:
disolitude said:
Jordahn said:
 

First of all, Sharp makes excellent TV's.  To say that LG and Samsung are better than Sharp is OPINIONATED.  Also, the panels made by Sharp for SONY HDTV's are not the same as the ones that go into Sharp's HDTV's.  Sharp does not use BRAVIA technology.  SONY does.  Let's not cloud the FACTS to push a personal point.

Err...no.

The Bravia and Sharp LCD pannel is exactly the same. Bravia display engine is not found in Sharp TVs and vice versa but the display pannel is exactly the same. Sony does some cool stuff with its display features and Bravias and are better than Sharps, but they certanly aren't buying sharp pannels cause they are the best. They switched from Samsung cause Sharp was cheaper...

Most people that follow TV's know that while Sharp used to be at the top (2007ish), they have fallen behind in quality in the top end models. You won't find many Sharp TVs (if any) that are on any "Best TV listings" these days.

well what do you know...here is such a list for the 2010 models - http://reviews.cnet.com/best-hdtvs/

Well what do you know...  ONE single source to prove a point.  Go to Sound and Vision...

http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/category/site-channel/tests-reviews/hdtvs/projectors

You'll find a variety of brands making LCD's and other tv technologies that received their "Certified & Recommended" stamp.
Just to point out, reccomended is different to best of. What Hifi in UK ( The most respected UK Home Cinema magazine along with Home Cinema ) Both dont have any SOny or Sharp products in the best of 2009. Thats top 5 for Bluray players, HDTV's etc etc. Not 1 single Sony or Sharp product. But then that is out of what was available to physically buy off shelves at the end of 2009 in UK.


Lord Flashheart on 11 May 2010

That's what I was thinking?
If they do exist other than the 15" one of course they would.
I'm shocked he owns a non-sony product.



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