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selnor on 12 May 2010
Jordahn said:
selnor said:
Jordahn said:
selnor said:
Jordahn said:

selnor said:


Just to point out, reccomended is different to best of. What Hifi in UK ( The most respected UK Home Cinema magazine along with Home Cinema ) Both dont have any SOny or Sharp products in the best of 2009. Thats top 5 for Bluray players, HDTV's etc etc. Not 1 single Sony or Sharp product. But then that is out of what was available to physically buy off shelves at the end of 2009 in UK.

Invalid - attempt to interject one's personal interpretation of a word by citing an example of a different source independent of the original source the word was derived from.

So thank you for wasting bandwidth.  ;)

Um not at all. What Hifi have given a reccomendation to Sony TV's in 2009. But there is no Sony TV's in their beest of 2009. So my point is which you have missed entirely is that a recommendation is entitrely different to Best of. You see?The source that was quoted was not a best of. It was a review with a reccomendation. In other words a good TV. But by no means is it a best of or top 5. :)

When Sound and Vision reviewed the Sony Bravia KDL-55XBR8 55-inch LCD HDTV, they said, "Though pricey, Sony's LED-backlit XBR8 establishes a new performance benchmark for LCD TVs."  And that was 2009.  I don't know about you, but "new performance benchmark for LCD TVs" strongly implies something.  And "top 5" have always been very subjective because no tv technology from any brand is perfect in any setting.  And I'm not claiming that Sound & Vision is always correct.  So what's Sound & Vision's "top 5?"  But as someone else tried pointing out, this thread had nothing to do with Samsung.  Someone had to throw it in for "good measure" as a means to troll.  Very obvious.  I wasn't the one originally trying to point to a single source as the ends of all means as a common cherry picking tactic.  You should be focusing your attention to the ones using subjectiveness to push a point.  But then again, it doesn't surprise me for you to side with those of the same subjective agenda.
Hey it's all good. I know people still have there fave companies. But if you can show me a best of list in the last 10 years for Tv's, seperate systems or DVD/BluRays where Sony comes top it would be great. Sony haven't been the leaders or best products in those kinds of markets for about 10 years.Names like Arcam, Marantz, Samsung, Panasonic, Pioneer, Cambridge Audio, Kef, Mordaunt Short etc are all top tier in their fileds.

Dude, it's got nothing to do with favorite companies.  And I'm not sheep to a "top 5" list of any period: "Oh, no.  The electronic I want is number eight.  It's not in the top five so it must suck."  This is ridiculous.  And you mentioned Marantz which is of high quality, but Marantz is out of the average consumer's price range.  That could "disqualify" it from a "top 5."  And from my extensive studies I have found that SONY product are better that Panasonic products.  Disagree if you'd like, and I can respect that.  I just cannot respect how some uses narrow reasoning to support their claims.  How many time has this site has had top "x" games of "y" console for the year "z"?  What makes the author's opinion of that article factually more valid than anyone else's?  Maybe my life would be a lot easier by taking marching orders from a single source and a handful of sources that think such as I to shelter myself from diverse though.  Nope, that life is NOT or me.  And you said "fave companies"????  [shakes head]

Top games list is opinion. Top electronics list is specification and implementation. I didnt ask for a shit storm. I pointed out merely that recomendation is not best of. And you tried to tell me it was. And now we are here.



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FullMetalMerc on 12 May 2010
megaman79 said:

well, looks like its good timing for all of them.

 

Oh and lulz @ MS partnering with a Korean company instead of japanese.

Or another american company becasue all of my M$ fanboy friends say M$ is an american company protecting american jobs nad we should whole heartedly support them for that,lulz



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selnor on 12 May 2010
FullMetalMerc said:
megaman79 said:

well, looks like its good timing for all of them.

 

Oh and lulz @ MS partnering with a Korean company instead of japanese.

Or another american company becasue all of my M$ fanboy friends say M$ is an american company protecting american jobs nad we should whole heartedly support them for that,lulz


Thats not a laughing matter. If a UK company made consoles, I would support them. Over here supporting other industries in the world has hurt our jobs and economy. If you think it's funny, you dont deserve a job.



Lord Flashheart on 12 May 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
superchunk said:
LOL to anyone who thought only PS3 could do it... lol, you know your out there.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, PS3's 3D (as all home 3D at this point) is a huge flop of shit and needs to be skipped by the consumers. The manufacturers need to realize we won't pay $100's for each pair of glasses just to watch 3D at home.

If costs prevent glassless 60" tvs, then at least utilized the passive system theaters use. Worked just fine for Avatar and every other 3D movie and would only cost a few bucks, if that for each pair of glasses. Then I wouldn't mind my 4yr old wearing them or buying 20 for the big sporting events.

wtf are you talking abt?

 

Only PS3 can do 3D IN THE CONSOLES SECTION.

 

This 3D that LG and MS are touting is not real 3D production.This is only how 3DTV's can convert 3D in 3D,they can do this with any media.Even with  PS1.

 

Originally developed and converted 3D will have big differences

I refer you to Avatar and me at Gadget show.

Looked like real 3d on an xbox to me.



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Solid_Snake4RD on 12 May 2010
selnor said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
superchunk said:
LOL to anyone who thought only PS3 could do it... lol, you know your out there.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, PS3's 3D (as all home 3D at this point) is a huge flop of shit and needs to be skipped by the consumers. The manufacturers need to realize we won't pay $100's for each pair of glasses just to watch 3D at home.

If costs prevent glassless 60" tvs, then at least utilized the passive system theaters use. Worked just fine for Avatar and every other 3D movie and would only cost a few bucks, if that for each pair of glasses. Then I wouldn't mind my 4yr old wearing them or buying 20 for the big sporting events.

wtf are you talking abt?

 

Only PS3 can do 3D IN THE CONSOLES SECTION.

 

This 3D that LG and MS are touting is not real 3D production.This is only how 3DTV's can convert 3D in 3D,they can do this with any media.Even with  PS1.

 

Originally developed and converted 3D will have big differences
BuZZZZZER UNH UNH.WRONG!You better go listen to Corrinne in her interview. She tells of the problems that arise when developing a game from scratch for 3d gaming on 360. The changes that they have to do graphically. There is no driver issue or anything. It's simply a case of changing the way we see the graphics particles and depth perception. The 360 is every bit as capable as the PS3. And we will see Natal 3d games to. She definately pointed to that. I know it doesnt compute with many peoples perception that the 360 was all but finished. But sorry, the 360 has plenty of power left according to her ( and she is a very very knowledgable person in the industry who has worked with T Sweeney and J Carmack.

i didn't say 360 has more or less power.

 

also 360 has HDMI 1.2 and PS3 has HDMI 1.3.

If 360 were to put out games in 3D,they would have to be SD.



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Solid_Snake4RD on 12 May 2010
Lord Flashheart said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
superchunk said:
LOL to anyone who thought only PS3 could do it... lol, you know your out there.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, PS3's 3D (as all home 3D at this point) is a huge flop of shit and needs to be skipped by the consumers. The manufacturers need to realize we won't pay $100's for each pair of glasses just to watch 3D at home.

If costs prevent glassless 60" tvs, then at least utilized the passive system theaters use. Worked just fine for Avatar and every other 3D movie and would only cost a few bucks, if that for each pair of glasses. Then I wouldn't mind my 4yr old wearing them or buying 20 for the big sporting events.

wtf are you talking abt?

 

Only PS3 can do 3D IN THE CONSOLES SECTION.

 

This 3D that LG and MS are touting is not real 3D production.This is only how 3DTV's can convert 3D in 3D,they can do this with any media.Even with  PS1.

 

Originally developed and converted 3D will have big differences

I refer you to Avatar and me at Gadget show.

Looked like real 3d on an xbox to me.

wat?

 

real 3D from 360 is possible on 360 but with HDMI 1.2,it would be SD or lower.

PS3 has HCMI 1.3 thats why they can output 3D with the existing graphics



selnor on 12 May 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
selnor said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
superchunk said:
LOL to anyone who thought only PS3 could do it... lol, you know your out there.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, PS3's 3D (as all home 3D at this point) is a huge flop of shit and needs to be skipped by the consumers. The manufacturers need to realize we won't pay $100's for each pair of glasses just to watch 3D at home.

If costs prevent glassless 60" tvs, then at least utilized the passive system theaters use. Worked just fine for Avatar and every other 3D movie and would only cost a few bucks, if that for each pair of glasses. Then I wouldn't mind my 4yr old wearing them or buying 20 for the big sporting events.

wtf are you talking abt?

 

Only PS3 can do 3D IN THE CONSOLES SECTION.

 

This 3D that LG and MS are touting is not real 3D production.This is only how 3DTV's can convert 3D in 3D,they can do this with any media.Even with  PS1.

 

Originally developed and converted 3D will have big differences
BuZZZZZER UNH UNH.WRONG!You better go listen to Corrinne in her interview. She tells of the problems that arise when developing a game from scratch for 3d gaming on 360. The changes that they have to do graphically. There is no driver issue or anything. It's simply a case of changing the way we see the graphics particles and depth perception. The 360 is every bit as capable as the PS3. And we will see Natal 3d games to. She definately pointed to that. I know it doesnt compute with many peoples perception that the 360 was all but finished. But sorry, the 360 has plenty of power left according to her ( and she is a very very knowledgable person in the industry who has worked with T Sweeney and J Carmack.

i didn't say 360 has more or less power.

 

also 360 has HDMI 1.2 and PS3 has HDMI 1.3.

If 360 were to put out games in 3D,they would have to be SD.

I bet the 360 has HD 3d games. Sony will make their TV's 1.3 only. But I bet LG and M$ partnership produce 1.2 HDMI 3d TV's. As will Samsung, Panasonic etc. Sony cant lock M$ out of it.



disolitude on 12 May 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
Lord Flashheart said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
superchunk said:
LOL to anyone who thought only PS3 could do it... lol, you know your out there.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, PS3's 3D (as all home 3D at this point) is a huge flop of shit and needs to be skipped by the consumers. The manufacturers need to realize we won't pay $100's for each pair of glasses just to watch 3D at home.

If costs prevent glassless 60" tvs, then at least utilized the passive system theaters use. Worked just fine for Avatar and every other 3D movie and would only cost a few bucks, if that for each pair of glasses. Then I wouldn't mind my 4yr old wearing them or buying 20 for the big sporting events.

wtf are you talking abt?

 

Only PS3 can do 3D IN THE CONSOLES SECTION.

 

This 3D that LG and MS are touting is not real 3D production.This is only how 3DTV's can convert 3D in 3D,they can do this with any media.Even with  PS1.

 

Originally developed and converted 3D will have big differences

I refer you to Avatar and me at Gadget show.

Looked like real 3d on an xbox to me.

wat?

 

real 3D from 360 is possible on 360 but with HDMI 1.2,it would be SD or lower.

PS3 has HCMI 1.3 thats why they can output 3D with the existing graphics

Don't post false info...

Xbox360 has HDMI 1.2 which does 1080p @ 60 frames per second = 720p @ 30 frames per eye.

Go check what Wipeout HD and motostorm will be running at when running in 3D then say "Only PS3 can do 3D"

Also, go check what res Avatar is running on 360 in 3D...here is a hint...its 1080p @ 60fps / 2 eyes. Except it uses checkerboard format (as well as side by side and interlaced) which at 720p looks better than frame sequential format that PS3 will most likely do at 720p.

Bottom line PS3 will not get a retail game to run above 720p @ 30 FPS which can be easily done by 360.



Solid_Snake4RD on 12 May 2010
selnor said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
selnor said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
superchunk said:
LOL to anyone who thought only PS3 could do it... lol, you know your out there.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, PS3's 3D (as all home 3D at this point) is a huge flop of shit and needs to be skipped by the consumers. The manufacturers need to realize we won't pay $100's for each pair of glasses just to watch 3D at home.

If costs prevent glassless 60" tvs, then at least utilized the passive system theaters use. Worked just fine for Avatar and every other 3D movie and would only cost a few bucks, if that for each pair of glasses. Then I wouldn't mind my 4yr old wearing them or buying 20 for the big sporting events.

wtf are you talking abt?

 

Only PS3 can do 3D IN THE CONSOLES SECTION.

 

This 3D that LG and MS are touting is not real 3D production.This is only how 3DTV's can convert 3D in 3D,they can do this with any media.Even with  PS1.

 

Originally developed and converted 3D will have big differences
BuZZZZZER UNH UNH.WRONG!You better go listen to Corrinne in her interview. She tells of the problems that arise when developing a game from scratch for 3d gaming on 360. The changes that they have to do graphically. There is no driver issue or anything. It's simply a case of changing the way we see the graphics particles and depth perception. The 360 is every bit as capable as the PS3. And we will see Natal 3d games to. She definately pointed to that. I know it doesnt compute with many peoples perception that the 360 was all but finished. But sorry, the 360 has plenty of power left according to her ( and she is a very very knowledgable person in the industry who has worked with T Sweeney and J Carmack.

i didn't say 360 has more or less power.

 

also 360 has HDMI 1.2 and PS3 has HDMI 1.3.

If 360 were to put out games in 3D,they would have to be SD.

I bet the 360 has HD 3d games. Sony will make their TV's 1.3 only. But I bet LG and M$ partnership produce 1.2 HDMI 3d TV's. As will Samsung, Panasonic etc. Sony cant lock M$ out of it.

you just bet 360 3D HD.360 will not have 3D 720p games.Also MS won't market 3D much.

 

And you BET LG AND ms PARTNERSHIP,LG would be idiots to produce HDMI 1.2 3DTV's in 2010.They are producing HDMI 1.4 which has Backward Compatibility to play HDMI 1.2

 

Sony can't lock MS out of wat?



Galaki on 12 May 2010

WTF? I didn't know people actually thought __only__ PS3 can do 3D.
Someone forgot to send me the memo :(



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