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NanakiXI on 11 May 2010
Ail said:

 

Actually it is fully illegal.

The issue is that the tools the pirate use to get their pirated copies can be used to exchange legal stuff too, ( like information for example), which is the reason those tools have not been banned but are used everywhere. The issue at hand is what useage you make of those tools...

It's illegal to run over a pedestrian with your car. But it's not illegal to drive a car. The question is what you do with it. Same thing with torrent...

The reasons so many do it is mainly the following :

- so many people do it, they feel the odds of them getting caught are small and some of them don't even realize it's not legal because so many are doing it...

Yet it's one case where what the many does isn't going to dictate the law, because if piracy became legal the whole  business of selling software to private customers would just disappear as would a whole chunk of the software industry...

It's illegal to drive over the speed limit too. Yet at one point or another we all have done it , either because we were not paying attention or we were in a hurry and we thought the odds to get caught on that specific road were pretty low to non existant...

 

Holy crap. I didn't realize this. Did you also know that eating another person is a crime? Yeat we have forks and knives?

This just in! The sky is blue!!!

Ohhh and general point is general point. I wasn't making a 5 or so paragraph explanation on downloading software. I'm fully aware of how it works thankyouverymuch.

 

P.S. - Way to spin somthing into nothing.



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NanakiXI on 11 May 2010

Yeah sorry I tend to break threads when I'm right. Sorry about that.



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WereKitten on 11 May 2010
twesterm said:

I actually don't have a problem that download the game straight through the site for $0, everone can't and shouldn't give to every charity, I'm just astonished that people will actually torrent the games.  So not only are they at the very least denying the developer some advertising money or traffic, but they're also ignoring a charity.

It's just one of those you have to look at the person and just say really?

And you know for certain that the advertising through that site contact pays enough to cover the bandwidth and hosting availability? Because if that's not the case the organizers are better off economically if people not covering their costs download the software elsewhere.

And you know for certain that people are purposefully ignoring the charity? They might not even know that the software they're getting off torrents can be paid as little as it can, or can help a charity initiative.

The point still stands: benefitting from the goods and paying the labour that led to it are decoupled when we're talking digital. Lossless, digital copy is not a zero-sum game. Tackle the moral aspect of it - people not paying as much as they can and not helping the authors of media they enjoy - if you want, but that applies to everyone.



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NanakiXI on 11 May 2010

BTW it won't let me edit to fix it.



FootballFan - "GT has never been bigger than Halo. Now do a comparison between the two attach ratios and watch GT get stomped by Halo. Reach will sell 5 million more than GT5. Quote me on it."

NanakiXI on 11 May 2010

Damn I didn't even post
that last comment anyway.

I'm confused O_o



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scottie on 11 May 2010
twesterm said:
scottie said:
twesterm said:
scottie said:
famousringo said:

 

 

 

Sorry, my point was not that the parents wouldn't want to give their kids a dollar. My point was that 99% of the things on the internet that require a $1 fee from a credit card, are actually just a way for people to get your credit card details. Lots of parents are going to assume that this is one such case, and not let their kids use their credit card. yes, in an ideal world, parents would be willing to put in the time and effort working out if it is legit or not, but we all know that isn't what happens

Again, that's why parents should be more active.  It's not the developers fault that parents are lazy or kids don't want to ask.

Yeah, if I had a kid and they asked me hey dad, can I have $1 for these sweet games? I might just say no because that just might be a scam but if the kid actually told me what he was wanting and explained it to me I would likely say yes.

Why should I feel sorry for these kids and forgive them for pirating the game because they can't be bothered to ask their parents what they want?

 

That's not what I'm saying. I am saying that the kids DO ask their parents, and their parents are NOT active.

 

If you were a kid, and had asked your parents for their credit card to buy these games, and they continued to say no, what would you do? For these children it is IMPOSSIBLE to get these games, without commiting credit card fraud of course.

 

Actually, don't bother answering that question. I could raise a theoretical where the only way to stop the world exploding was to pirate a video game, and you would still say you wouldn't do it.



The Ghost of RubangB on 11 May 2010

As of right now they've raised $872,606 from 98,586 people, with an average contribution of $8.85. One guy has donated $1,000, two have donated $500, one has donated $400, and now all of the top 10 donations are $250 or higher. The average contribution has been steadily climbing all week.

We don't know the split between the devs and the charities, since each donor could split up their own donation any way they wanted to. But unless most people gave all their money to the charities and none to the devs, then it looks like this one week sale alone has more than paid for all 5 games, given them a ton of great publicity as anti-DRM indie heroes, and helped out charity. Piracy or no piracy, that's a huge success, and probably more money than these guys make most weeks or months or years.

In fact, there's just under 11 hours left. Go get these games. Pay a cent. Pay a buck. Pay five or ten bucks. Get 'em. http://www.wolfire.com/humble

I bet the people pirating this package in this instance were either too young to use a credit card, or they stumbled across some free games and didn't realize they were already pay-what-you-want. I refuse to believe anybody would knowingly steal something that costs a cent.



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Hephaestos on 11 May 2010

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"I bet the people pirating this package in this instance were either too young to use a credit card, or they stumbled across some free games and didn't realize they were already pay-what-you-want. I refuse to believe anybody would knowingly steal something that costs a cent.
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Severance on 11 May 2010

and yet people around here have the guts to praise pirates.



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Erisian on 11 May 2010

Do you have a single illegal mp3, or a copied dvd? Because if you do (and I'm not convinced that anybody with internets has none at all) then you too are a "stupid scum" pirate and your anti-piracy stance is weak.