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disolitude on 26 April 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
disolitude said:
Rainbird said:
leo-j said:
nightsurge said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
bobobologna said:
kowenicki said:
Isn't it 3d enabled on the 360 too?

Yes it is.

can it do 3d on 360 like PS3 or like those 2D to 3D converter TV's?

Yes, Avatar in 3D is the exact same on 360 and PS3.

no one said it's not the same 3d.. why do you assume everyone thinks the 360 game is inferior with 3d..

Why do assume that that's what he thought? And wouldn't it make sense, seeing as the PS3 is getting upgraded to handle more advanced stereoscopic 3D?

This is not correct.

The PS3 3D update is exactly the same tech as Avatar...just with less features.  You see, Avatar was optimized and designed to run in 3D, and included the 3D drivers and capapilities for all types of 3D diplays out there. It works on checkerboard displays, 120 hz displays, polarized displays... PS3 will most likely only work with 120 hz displays. Exactly same tech...just built in driver in to the console rather than individual games. This way companies don't have to put 3D driver profiles on the games...but Sony can just shoot an update to your console when a new game is released that can work in 3D.

But overall there is nothing more advanced about the 3D tech Wipeout is doing VS Avatar...3D effects should look pretty much identical on the same TV.

 

no its not.

 

2D or half 3D signal into 3D,they were never for true 3D.Avatar on PS3 and 360 were the same but they were not optimised to be true 3D as the PC version.They were build for TV's that could convert.360 contains HDMI 1.2 and PS3 has HDMI 1.3a.

The current PS3 update has made PS3 to process true 3D like the PC's.but until the the Avatar devs work for a patch,Avatar PS3 will be the same as 360.

 

 

disolitude,360 wouldn't compete with PS3 having 3D update cause 360 has an older HDMI

Actually 360 could easily compete with 720p @ 30 fps 3d that Wipeout and Motostorm are doing. HDMI 1.2 suppots 1080p @ 60 hz and can easily do 720p @ 30 hz X 2

It can't do 1080p in 3d but do you really think that PS3 will have a retail game running at 1080p in 3D?

Also, yes you are right that Avatar doesn't have the 120 hz support that the new TVs offer. But that is because HDMI 1.4 did not exist last year when the game came out...not because they couldn't do it. If those TVs existed, Avatar would have been patched to work with them as well. There is nothing hard in displaying 720p resolution @ 30 hz X 2 using PS3 or 360 HDMI.

Otherwise Avatar supports all 3D formats (on consoles) which were available at that time.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6391049957/m/8641083708

3. What stereoscopic 3D signal formats is the game compatible with?

Avatar: The Game is able to output most 3D signal formats from your Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, including: RealD, Sensio, side-by-side, line-interlaced, and full checkerboard. On the PC version, Avatar: The Game supports all of the previous formats plus the NVIDIA® 3D Vision™, iZ3D and dual head formats.

Its not like the 120 hz HDMI 1.4 method produces better results than RealD or checkerboard anyways for a game like avatar...  I am willing to bet that it would look better using checkerboard on DLP due to no ghosting.



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Solid_Snake4RD on 26 April 2010
disolitude said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
disolitude said:
Rainbird said:
leo-j said:
nightsurge said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
bobobologna said:
kowenicki said:
Isn't it 3d enabled on the 360 too?

Yes it is.

can it do 3d on 360 like PS3 or like those 2D to 3D converter TV's?

Yes, Avatar in 3D is the exact same on 360 and PS3.

no one said it's not the same 3d.. why do you assume everyone thinks the 360 game is inferior with 3d..

Why do assume that that's what he thought? And wouldn't it make sense, seeing as the PS3 is getting upgraded to handle more advanced stereoscopic 3D?

This is not correct.

The PS3 3D update is exactly the same tech as Avatar...just with less features.  You see, Avatar was optimized and designed to run in 3D, and included the 3D drivers and capapilities for all types of 3D diplays out there. It works on checkerboard displays, 120 hz displays, polarized displays... PS3 will most likely only work with 120 hz displays. Exactly same tech...just built in driver in to the console rather than individual games. This way companies don't have to put 3D driver profiles on the games...but Sony can just shoot an update to your console when a new game is released that can work in 3D.

But overall there is nothing more advanced about the 3D tech Wipeout is doing VS Avatar...3D effects should look pretty much identical on the same TV.

 

no its not.

 

2D or half 3D signal into 3D,they were never for true 3D.Avatar on PS3 and 360 were the same but they were not optimised to be true 3D as the PC version.They were build for TV's that could convert.360 contains HDMI 1.2 and PS3 has HDMI 1.3a.

The current PS3 update has made PS3 to process true 3D like the PC's.but until the the Avatar devs work for a patch,Avatar PS3 will be the same as 360.

 

 

disolitude,360 wouldn't compete with PS3 having 3D update cause 360 has an older HDMI

Actually 360 could easily compete with 720p @ 30 fps 3d that Wipeout and Motostorm are doing. HDMI 1.2 suppots 1080p @ 60 hz and can easily do 720p @ 30 hz X 2

It can't do 1080p in 3d but do you really think that PS3 will have a retail game running at 1080p in 3D?

Also, yes you are right that Avatar doesn't have the 120 hz support that the new TVs offer. But that is because HDMI 1.4 did not exist last year when the game came out...not because they couldn't do it. If those TVs existed, Avatar would have been patched to work with them as well. There is nothing hard in displaying 720p resolution @ 30 hz X 2 using PS3 or 360 HDMI.

Otherwise Avatar supports all 3D formats (on consoles) which were available at that time.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6391049957/m/8641083708

3. What stereoscopic 3D signal formats is the game compatible with?

Avatar: The Game is able to output most 3D signal formats from your Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, including: RealD, Sensio, side-by-side, line-interlaced, and full checkerboard. On the PC version, Avatar: The Game supports all of the previous formats plus the NVIDIA® 3D Vision™, iZ3D and dual head formats.

Its not like the 120 hz HDMI 1.4 method produces better results than RealD or checkerboard anyways for a game like avatar...  I am willing to bet that it would look better using checkerboard on DLP due to no ghosting.

yeah that seams to be the case but is 30hz good.i have never tried it.I don't know if PS3 can output 1080P in 3d but i think they can do 1080i at 60hz x2.

we will have to wait and see.Hoping for GT5 to be 3D,It was 1080p 3D at CES.that will just make my day



disolitude on 26 April 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
disolitude said:

 

Actually 360 could easily compete with 720p @ 30 fps 3d that Wipeout and Motostorm are doing. HDMI 1.2 suppots 1080p @ 60 hz and can easily do 720p @ 30 hz X 2

It can't do 1080p in 3d but do you really think that PS3 will have a retail game running at 1080p in 3D?

Also, yes you are right that Avatar doesn't have the 120 hz support that the new TVs offer. But that is because HDMI 1.4 did not exist last year when the game came out...not because they couldn't do it. If those TVs existed, Avatar would have been patched to work with them as well. There is nothing hard in displaying 720p resolution @ 30 hz X 2 using PS3 or 360 HDMI.

Otherwise Avatar supports all 3D formats (on consoles) which were available at that time.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6391049957/m/8641083708

3. What stereoscopic 3D signal formats is the game compatible with?

Avatar: The Game is able to output most 3D signal formats from your Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3, including: RealD, Sensio, side-by-side, line-interlaced, and full checkerboard. On the PC version, Avatar: The Game supports all of the previous formats plus the NVIDIA® 3D Vision™, iZ3D and dual head formats.

Its not like the 120 hz HDMI 1.4 method produces better results than RealD or checkerboard anyways for a game like avatar...  I am willing to bet that it would look better using checkerboard on DLP due to no ghosting.

yeah that seams to be the case but is 30hz good.i have never tried it.I don't know if PS3 can output 1080P in 3d but i think they can do 1080i at 60hz x2.

we will have to wait and see.Hoping for GT5 to be 3D,It was 1080p 3D at CES.that will just make my day

30 Hz per eye is great...I assume that is what they are doing. 720p @ 30 hz per eye will still give a great experience. It just won't really use HDMI 1.4 technology to the fullest.

Also, they should support checkerboard format as well as all those that Avatar does. If PS3 doesn't support those for gaming then they are just being assholes cause technically they aren't doing anything differently from the old tech available.