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nightsurge on 26 April 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
nightsurge said:
I think the biggest thing out of all that is the "No price cut for another year" part. Not unexpected. Also, this means that this holiday season the rundown will likely be a Slim 360 Natal Bundle at $250-300 and a PS3 Slim Move Bundle at $350-400. Regardless though it looks like the PS3 is about to be considerably more expensive to purchase than the 360 once the new motion peripherals and the new 360 design + price cut is released.

Will it be another $200 (Slim Arcade + Natal)/$300 (Slim Elite + Natal) vs $400 (PS3 + Move) holiday? Seems like we are ever more likely to repeat the 2008 scenario now.

there will be a PS3 price cut of $50 to $250 and then the $100 price cut next year which will get the PS3 to the majical $149 mark which made the most sales last gen with PS2.

Oh so they are going to magically reduce costs by another $150 in just a year, huh?  Also, did you not see where they stated "No price cut for another year".  I guess I should have known better to trust someone working for Sony over a random forum poster.

 

you reall think with next gen arriving in 2012,they will still price the PS3 above $200.

Yes.  They have to if they don't want to take a loss on hardware.  The PS3 will be breaking even after this new 45nm releases and maybe make a minor profit of a couple dollars depending on the currency.  By 2012 the PS3 at it's cheapest standalone SKU will still be $200.

 

 

And 360 slim arcade + natal will cost $250 at max.not discussing elite

A 360 Slim Arcade + Natal would cost $200 at max.  Maybe even $149.

 

PS3 slim + Move with subcontroller and eye will cost $299 at max.

PS3 Slim + Move + nunchuck + eye + game will cost $400.

 

Sony won't be far behind this time cause they can't afford to lose the momnetum.I have explained to you before in another thread,PS3 slim with RSX 45nm already will readuce cost and with 32nm Cell being worked on and HW costs decreasing,eye cost barely $15,game will be first party so free,Move with subcontroller will cost $50 at max.They will msot likely price it at $299 with losing $30 at max and SW sales will cover that and Move bundle will only be some.Sony will make money on other bundles.

Move with subcontroller = $50?  Are you mad? A single move controller is likely to be $40 minimum with another $20 minimum for the nunchuck thing.  You also don't understand how much cost reduction is achieved via chip size reductions.  You are vastly overestimating I'm afraid.  From this point on, the PS3 will reduce in costs much much slower.  Last year was likely the last chance it had at a $100 cut.  After all, it's already had 3 $100 price drops.  Fall 2011, the PS3 will receive a $50 cut, and again in Fall 2012.  No price cut this year.

 

And we will for sure not see 2008 scenario,it will be a fight this time.Good for us VGC sales fanatics

Nah, it is actually very likely to be a 2008 scenario again.

 



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Solid_Snake4RD on 26 April 2010
andremop said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
ironman said:
jneul said:
nightsurge said:
I think the biggest thing out of all that is the "No price cut for another year" part. Not unexpected. Also, this means that this holiday season the rundown will likely be a Slim 360 Natal Bundle at $250-300 and a PS3 Slim Move Bundle at $350-400. Regardless though it looks like the PS3 is about to be considerably more expensive to purchase than the 360 once the new motion peripherals and the new 360 design + price cut is released.

Will it be another $200 (Slim Arcade + Natal)/$300 (Slim Elite + Natal) vs $400 (PS3 + Move) holiday? Seems like we are ever more likely to repeat the 2008 scenario now.


Seiously?? Come on the Slim relese showed that peope was People were waiting for PS3 to be dropped to $299, so they could afford it, also don't forget we have lots of Games coming including the all important GT5, I think GT5 is going to play an important part in keeping ps3 sales high, if x360 outsells ps3 it will be by a smaller margin this time around.

Fixed! Anyway, the slim release showed that people were waiting for the Sony to release a slim. There were many PS3 "Phat" owners who purchase the slim because it was smaller and sexier. Also, GT5 is most likely going to be dwarfed by Reach.  

are you here tyo correct english.

 

No GT5 will not be dwarfed by Reach,i can promise you it will sell more overtime.

Lol, you're funny!

You can promise those things??

 

"I promise you, my beloved... Gran Turismo will sell more even if I have to ride a horse with a really stupid hat!"

and how funny can you do?

 

be the funny man,trying to make everybody laugh and have no opinion in wats being debated and still try to make everything it funny



nightsurge on 26 April 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
nightsurge said:
Xoj said:
nightsurge said:
I think the biggest thing out of all that is the "No price cut for another year" part. Not unexpected. Also, this means that this holiday season the rundown will likely be a Slim 360 Natal Bundle at $250-300 and a PS3 Slim Move Bundle at $350-400. Regardless though it looks like the PS3 is about to be considerably more expensive to purchase than the 360 once the new motion peripherals and the new 360 design + price cut is released.

Will it be another $200 (Slim Arcade + Natal)/$300 (Slim Elite + Natal) vs $400 (PS3 + Move) holiday? Seems like we are ever more likely to repeat the 2008 scenario now.

we don't how about pricing yet... so hold your horses.

ps3 right now still is more expensive, and an add it's just an add you are not forced to buy the bundled version.

so unless one of them are huge hits u won't see a different story from chrismas 2009-

Even if you go for the non-bundled pricing it will likely be a $200-250 Elite Slim vs a $300-350 PS3.  The 360 and PS3 are currently the same price and yet one offers so much more so it is obvious at equal prices the 360 can never stack up.  At the same time, the 360, for those very same reasons, should be priced quite lower already but MS held off the price cut for when they do their own redesign and want to include Natal.

So with all those being stated, the situation is going to be much more likely to repeat 2008.

Elite Slim 360 will be $249 without bundling and PS3 250gb will be $299 without bundling.PS3 120gb will be $249 this fall

 

 

Again, they said no price drop for another year.  So the PS3 will still be $300 and $350 unbundled.  360 Elite Slim unbundled (if they even do such a thing) will probably be $199.  After all, they are combining chips into one, which is like double the cost savings of a single die shrink, and they are also shrinking the console.  Not to mention they skipped a year with no price cut and are profitable on hardware still so they will have plenty of room for the full $100 cut.



nightsurge on 26 April 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
andremop said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
ironman said:
jneul said:
nightsurge said:
I think the biggest thing out of all that is the "No price cut for another year" part. Not unexpected. Also, this means that this holiday season the rundown will likely be a Slim 360 Natal Bundle at $250-300 and a PS3 Slim Move Bundle at $350-400. Regardless though it looks like the PS3 is about to be considerably more expensive to purchase than the 360 once the new motion peripherals and the new 360 design + price cut is released.

Will it be another $200 (Slim Arcade + Natal)/$300 (Slim Elite + Natal) vs $400 (PS3 + Move) holiday? Seems like we are ever more likely to repeat the 2008 scenario now.


Seiously?? Come on the Slim relese showed that peope was People were waiting for PS3 to be dropped to $299, so they could afford it, also don't forget we have lots of Games coming including the all important GT5, I think GT5 is going to play an important part in keeping ps3 sales high, if x360 outsells ps3 it will be by a smaller margin this time around.

Fixed! Anyway, the slim release showed that people were waiting for the Sony to release a slim. There were many PS3 "Phat" owners who purchase the slim because it was smaller and sexier. Also, GT5 is most likely going to be dwarfed by Reach.  

are you here tyo correct english.

 

No GT5 will not be dwarfed by Reach,i can promise you it will sell more overtime.

Lol, you're funny!

You can promise those things??

 

"I promise you, my beloved... Gran Turismo will sell more even if I have to ride a horse with a really stupid hat!"

and how funny can you do?

 

be the funny man,trying to make everybody laugh and have no opinion in wats being debated and still try to make everything it funny

I suggest you learn English and then come back.  I have no idea what you just tried to say there.



andremop on 26 April 2010
Solid_Snake4RD said:
andremop said:
Solid_Snake4RD said:
ironman said:
jneul said:
nightsurge said:
I think the biggest thing out of all that is the "No price cut for another year" part. Not unexpected. Also, this means that this holiday season the rundown will likely be a Slim 360 Natal Bundle at $250-300 and a PS3 Slim Move Bundle at $350-400. Regardless though it looks like the PS3 is about to be considerably more expensive to purchase than the 360 once the new motion peripherals and the new 360 design + price cut is released.

Will it be another $200 (Slim Arcade + Natal)/$300 (Slim Elite + Natal) vs $400 (PS3 + Move) holiday? Seems like we are ever more likely to repeat the 2008 scenario now.


Seiously?? Come on the Slim relese showed that peope was People were waiting for PS3 to be dropped to $299, so they could afford it, also don't forget we have lots of Games coming including the all important GT5, I think GT5 is going to play an important part in keeping ps3 sales high, if x360 outsells ps3 it will be by a smaller margin this time around.

Fixed! Anyway, the slim release showed that people were waiting for the Sony to release a slim. There were many PS3 "Phat" owners who purchase the slim because it was smaller and sexier. Also, GT5 is most likely going to be dwarfed by Reach.  

are you here tyo correct english.

 

No GT5 will not be dwarfed by Reach,i can promise you it will sell more overtime.

Lol, you're funny!

You can promise those things??

 

"I promise you, my beloved... Gran Turismo will sell more even if I have to ride a horse with a really stupid hat!"

and how funny can you do?

 

be the funny man,trying to make everybody laugh and have no opinion in wats being debated and still try to make everything it funny

Why bother discussing things with you, since you clearly can predict the future! It's lost cause for me!

BTW, if you want my opinion on your posts, check Nightsurge's response to you above. I thank him for the time he spent on that.



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Jay520 on 26 April 2010

If I hear "slim 360" again without something remotely evident of its existence, I'm gonna puke.
There's nothing wrong with mentioning it, but using it in arguments so confidently can be annoying.



nightsurge on 26 April 2010
Jay520 said:
If I hear "slim 360" again without something remotely evident of its existence, I'm gonna puke.
There's nothing wrong with mentioning it, but using it in arguments so confidently can be annoying.

MS Job posting for mobo designer.

Leaked motherboard photos show up.

Steve Ballmer and other MS execs hinting at a new design.

Leaked mobo shows no memory card slots and then all of the sudden the 360 now supports USB flash drives and hard drives removing the need for a memory card slot.

 

Seems like some awfully big coincidences there.....



Jay520 on 26 April 2010

^ and that must lead to a 360 slim. Its so obvious.

Would you feel the same way if there was no Ps3 slim.



XxXProphecyXxX on 26 April 2010

WTF? and 360 fanboys keeps moaning how MS forums are getting trolled now look @ them trolling in this thread, you guys are just as bad as the "fanboys" your crying about 24/7.

This thread has got nothing to do with Natal/move or price cuts....seems to me that just the mere possibility of another  ps3 price cut scares the shit out of certain ppl here that even small news that has got very little to no connection to another pricecut make him go....

 



almcchesney on 26 April 2010

yea no price cut on the ps3 until holiday season, and American pride will keep Microsoft from dropping the 360 elite to 200$, especially if they are charging 100$ for a damn network adapter.