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Master Chief Vs Nathan Hale

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bobobologna said:
mibuokami said:
Hahahahaha! This is like that fucked up thread about Solid Snake versus Master Chief.

I've said it last time and I'll say it here again, Master Chief is a super soldier one step short of the Hulk. He is capable of sniping target miles away without scope, has absolute situational awareness and can survive the G from a atmospheric re-entry. His bone density is so think that a man would literally not be able to snap his neck no matter how hard they try, weight lifting needs to be measure in tonnage and he can survive rockets to the chest a point blank range and keep fighting.

There is a reason the covenent calls him a demon man!

There isn't even contest. Master Chief will rip Hale's balls off and shove it down his throat.

Which is why one rocket kills you in the Halo games.  Look, I realize that the Halo books are canon, but there's a clear disconnect between the games and the books (yeah, yeah, it's for balancing).  What if someone writes a Resistance book about how Hale survived Resistance 2, and now has the ability to instantly kill anyone with telepathic powers?  And his Chimera body instantly regenerates any part of the body, including vital organs like the heart and brain?

Hell, Halo 1 and Halo 2 had fall damage, and I'm supposed to believe that he can survive re-entry?  Yeah, yeah, armor lock and foam or something, but his body would still be experiencing a tremendous amount of force at impact, more than any fall in Halo 1 or Halo 2 that caused damage.  He's supposed to be able to run super fast, but in the games he can barely move faster than a brisk walk.

But my point isn't to argue whether the claims are realistic (afterall, Resistance 2 features telekinetic/telepathic powers).  I just think that we should limit the comparison to what the characters can do in the video games.

Why ignore the books? Why ignore canon? Why ignore the entire character and only take into account some cheap stats? Is that even the character you're appraising?

Akuma from Street Fighter IV is a mid-tier glass cannon in game stats - in the story however, he is a major badass that can take care of half the other fighters all at once. Which is more relevant? the game stats (that changes with every game) or the story and background that makes up what he is and that stays persistence and canonical?

Not taking into account everthing that is canon - the game, the story and anything else that broadens the Halo universe is not measuring the ability of a character at all. How can you when you're not looking at the character as a whole?

If there are Resistance books and they are considered canon, then they should certainly be taken into account, same with cartoon, comic or any other media thats expand upon the world of Resistance. You are appraising the character, everything about him! Otherwise both character would be very limited indeed, since half the time they don't even know how to open a damn door without breakin it.

If all you're gonna consider is gameplay. You might as well re-skins the two characters in Unreal Tournament and have a 1on1 duel.

The only thing that will matter is the person that gets the first head shot in.




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Hale because of what happens at the end of Resistance 2:P:P

also there should be more options because I would have chosen Nathan Drake if I had the option as Uncharted >>>>> Resistance



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Master Chief wins hands down, Nathan Hale has no chance.

Now if he would battle Nathan Drake, things would be interesting...



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Silver-Tiger said:
Master Chief wins hands down, Nathan Hale has no chance.

Now if he would battle Nathan Drake, things would be interesting...

If it was 1 million Nathan Drake the chief would still win the fight with both arm tied behind his back and hoping on 1 leg while shouting DRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE at the top of his lung.

That fight is like an army of chocolate frogs versus Homer Simpson....




MrBubbles said:
Vetteman94 said:
MrBubbles said:
Vetteman94 said:
MrBubbles said:
honestly...if we are going to accept those fairly weak telepathic powers, then we should take into account the ending of resistance 2. nathan hale is probably dead. if he isnt dead, hes probably near dead. if he isnt near dead, then hes brain damaged or too mentally unstable and weak to provide any sort of challenge for master chief.

How are the weak?   Those powers destroy anything that is in his sights,  there was no limitation of this other than the distance it was effective.  

BTW the ending with Hale dying probably isnt what really happened.  If you find some of the secret documents lying around you will find out that Capelli is prone to hallucinations.  Which is what alot of people are saying happened in the end of the 2nd one otherwise what the point in making a 3rd.   

you seriously going to argue that he would hallucinate what had been a private exchange between hale and daedalus.  and that insomniac would end a game with someone imagining they killed the main character.  or that they would have a third game with hale as the main character where he has those powers. 

or that those powers which he got from mrfloaty would actually be truly powerful....eventhough hale, whom was still practically a normal human regardless of his infection, was able to defeat him. 

about as likely has Hale really having a bad acid trip, or being stuck in a mental institution in the 50s and the whole thing being his own imaginings.

besides co op, the ending (with hale dying or being seriously injured) was the only interesting part of the game.

I never said he hallucinated the exchange between Hale and Daedalus,  I was refering to when he shot Hale.   It is completely plausible that they would do that as a cliffhanger ending.

What  they do in the thrid game with those powers is not my decision, but I do expect Hale in Resistance 3.  I find it funny that you cant accept the powers that Hale has but can for MC.  Biased much.

the only magic powers master chief has is super fast T-bag skills, which if you were actually paying attention(which you obviously arent because my comment had clearly been directed at the content of the hales speech at the end of the game - it being a private communication between hale and mrfloaty earlier in the game) you would have noticed that i never mentioned it.   i guess i could also include "luck"  as a magic power...since they do make mention of it,...even in the games....which would mean, of course, that hale has absolutely no chance of winning...even if he could blow up the entire planet with a mere thought. 

i clearly make reference to hales pathetic powers taken from mrfloaty.  they are what they are.  if essentially human hale could defeat mrfloaty.  then logically another human could defeat hale. lets then add a superhuman, such as the chief and we find that his success over hale easily attained.  even if we were to assume that within the time frame of getting the powers to the end of the game he has managed to achieve full control over them.

additionally at the end of the game we have hale who is clearly unable, unwilling, or uncaring enough to bother stopping a normal human from shooting him in the head.   we cant make the judgement that he would even put up a fight.(assuming that his body is left there, without suffering further damage, and manages to knit his brain back together. )


and yes, you are biased much from the looks of things.  but i forgive you.

You need to reread the intel that you collect from R2,  a game you have probably never played.

You can keep your forgiveness,  I do not need it



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See some of thess comments bug me, just by reading some I know half of you cheif voters have never played or seen R2 (had a discussion with one earlier in this thread) so why are you here if you cannot give a fair assesment?



Xbbjf9s said:
See some of thess comments bug me, just by reading some I know half of you cheif voters have never played or seen R2 (had a discussion with one earlier in this thread) so why are you here if you cannot give a fair assesment?

And half of the Nathan Hale voters have never played any of the Halos or read any of the books.



yo_john117 said:
Xbbjf9s said:
See some of thess comments bug me, just by reading some I know half of you cheif voters have never played or seen R2 (had a discussion with one earlier in this thread) so why are you here if you cannot give a fair assesment?

And half of the Nathan Hale voters have never played any of the Halos or read any of the books.

just sayin



yo_john117 said:
Xbbjf9s said:
See some of thess comments bug me, just by reading some I know half of you cheif voters have never played or seen R2 (had a discussion with one earlier in this thread) so why are you here if you cannot give a fair assesment?

And half of the Nathan Hale voters have never played any of the Halos or read any of the books.


Possibly, but most MC  votes just say "he will stomp hale" with no argument behind it, I have seen more than a few Hale votes that has reasoning behind them. The ability to blow sh*t up with gesture is pretty hard to beat, what's so interesting is that we don't even know the full extent of Hales abilities, he isn't a simple soldier being turned into a chimera.



Xbbjf9s said:
yo_john117 said:
Xbbjf9s said:
See some of thess comments bug me, just by reading some I know half of you cheif voters have never played or seen R2 (had a discussion with one earlier in this thread) so why are you here if you cannot give a fair assesment?

And half of the Nathan Hale voters have never played any of the Halos or read any of the books.


Possibly, but most MC  votes just say "he will stomp hale" with no argument behind it, I have seen more than a few Hale votes that has reasoning behind them. The ability to blow sh*t up with gesture is pretty hard to beat, what's so interesting is that we don't even know the full extent of Hales abilities, he isn't a simple soldier being turned into a chimera.

And likewise most Nathan Hale voters don't take into consideration Master Chief's incredible luck (He can pretty much survive anything)

Not too mention he's trained in stealth so Nathan wouldn't even have a clue what hit him (try to regenerate a severed head)