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stof on 24 April 2010

I;m reading this in an Apple store in Fukuoka Japan and the store is packed. The iphone just became available in Korea a few months ago and they:re already everywhere. I can:t imagine what will happen when the ipad hits Asia. Apple:s just going to keep on growing. I don]t see an end to growth within the next 10 years.



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HappySqurriel on 24 April 2010
stof said:
I;m reading this in an Apple store in Fukuoka Japan and the store is packed. The iphone just became available in Korea a few months ago and they:re already everywhere. I can:t imagine what will happen when the ipad hits Asia. Apple:s just going to keep on growing. I don]t see an end to growth within the next 10 years.

Apple is an odd position that could make them amazingly successful over the next decade, or could collapse within a couple of years. Mobile computing today is a market which is very similar to what personal computers were in the early 1990s, and Apple is in the position to take advantage of this market like Microsoft and Dell were at the time. The real advantage Apple has at this point in time is that they have very little competition which is making inroads, but the unfortunate disadvantage is they have almost no lock-in on customers.

What I mean by this is that a large portion of why many companies have not switched away from Microsoft based operating systems is because the applications they use are only available for Windows; and even if you can get them for Linux or Mac they’re expensive to replace. With Apple it seems like most of the Apps on the App-Store are also available for Android based phones and the Blackberry, and the cost per application is very small, which means that if Apple started to see significant declines in competitiveness there isn’t much to prevent their sales from declining.



Squilliam on 24 April 2010
HappySqurriel said:

 

What I mean by this is that a large portion of why many companies have not switched away from Microsoft based operating systems is because the applications they use are only available for Windows; and even if you can get them for Linux or Mac they’re expensive to replace. With Apple it seems like most of the Apps on the App-Store are also available for Android based phones and the Blackberry, and the cost per application is very small, which means that if Apple started to see significant declines in competitiveness there isn’t much to prevent their sales from declining.

This could be a good part of the reason why the iPad app prices were a little higher. If the library of apps and such were in the order of $50-100 for an average user thats quite a bit of hassle/money lock in relative to the price of a replacement item.



Tease.

TheRealMafoo on 24 April 2010
mirgro said:
TheRealMafoo said:
mirgro said:
TheRealMafoo said:

Sigh... Spotlight is not grep. It's hard to argue with the uninformed.

OSX has always had grep, from day one. Read up, and please stop arguing from a position of ignorance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotlight_(software)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grep

I've had to use it before, and I know that it has the same functionality. Maybe you just aren't familiar with grep and how it works. Though applications isn't one of its sstrengths unless you know the name of the file.

I stated using Grep in 1992 or 93.. I forget...

Grep does a search though whatever you pipe into it.. a file, a directory, whatever, but it does a search when you run it against the file system. Spotlight indexes everything ahead of time, so it's instant results. Plus, Spotlight is smart. If I use something more times then others, it bubbles to the top. If I put my sisters name in, her contact info is the first result, and 99% of the time, what I want is what it defaults to.

Grep is like search in XP, slow and painful to use. Spotlight is like hitting the Windows key in Windows 7, and typing, although Spotlight is slightly better in its results.

I am well aware that Spotlight indexes ahead of time. However it is still grep with storage and a string matcher.

It's grep with intelligent results, and up to thousands of times faster.

Sorry if that's no advancement to you. I assume a Porsche 911 is just a Model-T Ford with more speed and better handeling. Nothing new, and nothing Porsche should ever take credit for.

If you think the 911 is an advancement in any way, your just an idiot. That your position?



TheRealMafoo on 24 April 2010
mirgro said:
TheRealMafoo said:
mirgro said:
TheRealMafoo said:

Sigh... Spotlight is not grep. It's hard to argue with the uninformed.

OSX has always had grep, from day one. Read up, and please stop arguing from a position of ignorance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spotlight_(software)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grep

I've had to use it before, and I know that it has the same functionality. Maybe you just aren't familiar with grep and how it works. Though applications isn't one of its sstrengths unless you know the name of the file.

I stated using Grep in 1992 or 93.. I forget...

Grep does a search though whatever you pipe into it.. a file, a directory, whatever, but it does a search when you run it against the file system. Spotlight indexes everything ahead of time, so it's instant results. Plus, Spotlight is smart. If I use something more times then others, it bubbles to the top. If I put my sisters name in, her contact info is the first result, and 99% of the time, what I want is what it defaults to.

Grep is like search in XP, slow and painful to use. Spotlight is like hitting the Windows key in Windows 7, and typing, although Spotlight is slightly better in its results.

I am well aware that Spotlight indexes ahead of time. However it is still grep with storage and a string matcher.

Also, can you do me a favor.

With spotlight, I can hit two keys and type "photo", and get all the apps that have the word photo in it, all my contacts (I have a photolab in there), and my word docs that have that word in them, or are named that, and any emails I have with that word in it, or from the photolab.

Can you please write me the grep command line that will do this, being it's just the same thing but faster. Oh, and use awk if you want. It can be your "string matcher".

Good luck.