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The UK 2010 Election Thread- Who will/would get your vote?

Conservative - David Cameron 19 32.20%
 
Labour - Gordon Brown 11 18.64%
 
Liberal Democrats - Nick Clegg 22 37.29%
 
Other Party (Green/UKIP/Etc) 5 8.47%
 
Undecided 2 3.39%
 
Total:59
CrazyHorse on 22 April 2010

Why do we need a cap? Why not simply examine each case on a needs basis so that if people are needed they are allowed to work here. A cap imposes unnecessary restrictions which could have adverse affects on both business and universities.



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SciFiBoy on 22 April 2010

they have co-allition government in Scotland, so why is the pound not tanking already kowenicki?



CrazyHorse on 22 April 2010

Although I agree with Clegg on more issues, Cameron certainly handled himself much better in this debate and it wouldn't suprise me if comes out as the 'winner' in the public poll.



SciFiBoy on 22 April 2010
kowenicki said:
SciFiBoy said:
kowenicki said:
SciFiBoy said:
kowenicki said:
the simple fact is that markets dont like uncertainty... hung parliament = uncertainty.

the pound would get hammered and the markets would fall quite sharply, its a fact.

that, in the current economic situation, would be very bad.

fearmongering nonsense, the pound will be fine, so will co-allition government, it will also be more democratic as more partys and views get heard.

 

how many fund managers, forex brokers and economic advisers to international banks do you speak to on a daily basis?

I speak to lots...  

I just dont think the Pound is gonna nose dive if we have a hung parliament, ive yet to see or hear anything that actually says why this would happen, its always tory fans saying it and they never explain it.

spell out for me, here and now:

1. why would a hung parliament make the pound go down, and I want hard facts, proof from other nations, not just "because it will".

2. why is the pound being worth less going to hurt the economy?

2.  Are you saying we are a strong export economy? or do we import lots?  or havent you got a clue?

1.  History tells me, I think the markets dropped 20% after the last hung parliament for instance.  Other natuions are irrelevant, they are used to this kind of event.  And more importantly people who RUN the markets tell me... like I said there will be uncertainty and hesitancy of policy, thats undeniable, that breeds market jitters... simple. 

im not claiming to be an economist, im asking you why you say these things are bad.

lets join the Euro then, that wont drop.

let me guess, the people who run the markets are capitalists and Tories? shocker, of course they dont want a hung parliament...

 



headshot91 on 22 April 2010
kowenicki said:
headshot91 said:
kowenicki said:
the simple fact is that markets dont like uncertainty... hung parliament = uncertainty.

the pound would get hammered and the markets would fall quite sharply, its a fact.

that, in the current economic situation, would be very bad.

What? If the pound depreciated, that could be a good thing...


a currency isnt better by being weaker... yes it can be better at lower levels... for exports for instance, but you dont want a currency collapsing.

Isn't that a hypocritical sentence? Or just poorly worded?

Plus, even if we did have a hung parliament, the GB Pound would never COLLAPSE, our currency is quite strong atm.



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CrazyHorse on 22 April 2010

Ahh good, the SNP view is now on BBC News. How very relevant . Why do they think that they should be included in the main debates, they have nothing to do with the vast majority of the UK?



SciFiBoy on 22 April 2010
kowenicki said:
SciFiBoy said:
kowenicki said:
SciFiBoy said:
kowenicki said:
SciFiBoy said:
kowenicki said:
the simple fact is that markets dont like uncertainty... hung parliament = uncertainty.

the pound would get hammered and the markets would fall quite sharply, its a fact.

that, in the current economic situation, would be very bad.

fearmongering nonsense, the pound will be fine, so will co-allition government, it will also be more democratic as more partys and views get heard.

 

how many fund managers, forex brokers and economic advisers to international banks do you speak to on a daily basis?

I speak to lots...  

I just dont think the Pound is gonna nose dive if we have a hung parliament, ive yet to see or hear anything that actually says why this would happen, its always tory fans saying it and they never explain it.

spell out for me, here and now:

1. why would a hung parliament make the pound go down, and I want hard facts, proof from other nations, not just "because it will".

2. why is the pound being worth less going to hurt the economy?

2.  Are you saying we are a strong export economy? or do we import lots?  or havent you got a clue?

1.  History tells me, I think the markets dropped 20% after the last hung parliament for instance.  Other natuions are irrelevant, they are used to this kind of event.  And more importantly people who RUN the markets tell me... like I said there will be uncertainty and hesitancy of policy, thats undeniable, that breeds market jitters... simple. 

im not claiming to be an economist, im asking you why you say these things are bad.

lets join the Euro then, that wont drop.

let me guess, the people who run the markets are capitalists and Tories? shocker, of course they dont want a hung parliament...

 

I cant argue with a communist... its impossible.

Oh and no... joining the Euro is even worse... One curremcy and one interest rate CAN NEVER suit so many disperate economies. Ask Germany and Greece.

communist? wtf? I dont buy that capitalism is the only option and should dictate EVERYTHING we do. including preventing democracy in the UK, which is what fearmongering against a hung parliament will do, its the markets trying to hold the entire nation and people to ransom and its vile, this is a democracy, the people will decide who governs and how, not the markets.

isnt the Euro almost as strong as the Pound at the moment? and Germany have a stronger economy than we do, dont they?

 



SciFiBoy on 22 April 2010
kowenicki said:
SciFiBoy said:
kowenicki said:

I cant argue with a communist... its impossible.

Oh and no... joining the Euro is even worse... One curremcy and one interest rate CAN NEVER suit so many disperate economies. Ask Germany and Greece.

communist? wtf? I dont buy that capitalism is the only option and should dictate EVERYTHING we do. including preventing democracy in the UK, which is what fearmongering against a hung parliament will do, its the markets trying to hold the entire nation and people to ransom and its vile, this is a democracy, the people will decide who governs and how, not the markets.

isnt the Euro almost as strong as the Pound at the moment? and Germany have a stronger economy than we do, dont they?

 


The fact that you completely missed my about Germany and Greece tells me everything.   I am saying that germany has a very strong economy and Greece has a very weak economy and yet they have once currency and one interest rate to cope with those very very different economies.  thats bad...

if its so bad, then why is Germanys economy so strong despite them being in the Euro?

anyway, this is diverting from the main point, im not too bothered either way on the Euro.

 

the UK is a democracy, we the people vote in free and fair elections, if we dont give a mandate to a party, we get a hung parliament, the markets frankly, can like it or lump it

or are you saying that the markets are more important than democracy?



SciFiBoy on 22 April 2010
kowenicki said:
% popularity based on debate

Brown 29%
Clegg 32% (51% last week)
Cameron 36% (26% last week)

God know whay they dont add up to 100%??

some people are undecided?



SciFiBoy on 22 April 2010
kowenicki said:
SciFiBoy said:
kowenicki said:
SciFiBoy said:
kowenicki said:

I cant argue with a communist... its impossible.

Oh and no... joining the Euro is even worse... One curremcy and one interest rate CAN NEVER suit so many disperate economies. Ask Germany and Greece.

communist? wtf? I dont buy that capitalism is the only option and should dictate EVERYTHING we do. including preventing democracy in the UK, which is what fearmongering against a hung parliament will do, its the markets trying to hold the entire nation and people to ransom and its vile, this is a democracy, the people will decide who governs and how, not the markets.

isnt the Euro almost as strong as the Pound at the moment? and Germany have a stronger economy than we do, dont they?

 


The fact that you completely missed my about Germany and Greece tells me everything.   I am saying that germany has a very strong economy and Greece has a very weak economy and yet they have once currency and one interest rate to cope with those very very different economies.  thats bad...

if its so bad, then why is Germanys economy so strong despite them being in the Euro?

anyway, this is diverting from the main point, im not too bothered either way on the Euro.

 

the UK is a democracy, we the people vote in free and fair elections, if we dont give a mandate to a party, we get a hung parliament, the markets frankly, can like it or lump it

or are you saying that the markets are more important than democracy?

The markets underpin democracy....  you should know that.

 

they are part of it, sure, but they are not more important than the will of the people in free and fair elections.