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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0410/36095_Page2.html

It appears that it would give the police the power to check anyone who they suspect to be an illegal alien.

How would that work?  If they look hispanic?

Now a law that lets police check the immigration status of anyone who commits a crime... that makes sense.  However... Just you can stop anyone in the street and say "Show me your ID or you go to jail?"

What if I leave my wallet somewhere?



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Really? Nobody cares? Not even someone who just wants a nice easy cheap shot on Republicans? I mean... personally I find the law disturbing.



The Daily show had a spot on that, It's really crazy that in America such laws are allowed. It just screams racial profiling.



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psrock said:
The Daily show had a spot on that, It's really crazy that in America such laws are allowed. It just screams racial profiling.

Well that's the thing.  In America such laws AREN'T allowed.  Even if it passes it's surely going to be struck down.  ( I would hope anyway).

I don't understand why they're even trying with this.

 



The second paragraph of the article actually worried me a lot more. I don't know how to copy and paste, but it's the one that talks about how President Obama should basically override the bill if it's not vetoed (or something to that effect). I don't support the law at all, but it's interesting nonetheless.



 

 

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John McCain lost tons of respect from me for supporting such bill.



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MontanaHatchet said:

The second paragraph of the article actually worried me a lot more. I don't know how to copy and paste, but it's the one that talks about how President Obama should basically override the bill if it's not vetoed (or something to that effect). I don't support the law at all, but it's interesting nonetheless.

What I think.  (or hope) would be the case is they mean that Obama should put his lawyers to work to assert that border control is a federal authority offense because you are breaking into the country, even when you are breaking into a state.

So it's a federal crime, not a state crime.... so the law shouldn't be able to be passed.  It's either that... or that he will pass a law that will override the state law somehow.

 

Either way, it's a bad move for Republicans.  In a bunch of other states, they are courting hispanics to be a counter to the Tea Party movement. 

Obama's getting hit on all sides lately.  In California his speech was interupted by gay rights activists.  The kind that want more gay rights not less.



I understand the point of the law, but that would just open the floodgates for racial profiling.



psrock said:
John McCain lost tons of respect from me for supporting such bill.

You aren't the only one.  Though I saw it coming.  It's why I voted for Obama in the presidential election.



Racial profiling is not a bad thing.

If the last 50 people who blew up a plane had black hair and dark skin, and I could only check 10 out of 200 passengers each flight, I would be doing all passengers a diservice if I didn't start with the people who have black hair and dark skin.

I have black hair and dark skin, and I get pulled out of the line all the time. I am happy they are doing that. If I am on a plain that's going to get blown up, there is a 99% change it's going to be from someone who looks like me. Check them all, because I don't want to die.

Now, as for this law... not a huge fan of it, but I also don't want the police not to be able to check if someone is here illegally, just because they have yet to commit a crime.

Come to think of it, if they are here illegally, they have committed a crime.

So let me ask you this... If a cop sees someone walking down the street who has blood all over there cloths, and looks like they have been scratched by a woman, should they not be allowed to stop that man, because as far as the cop has seen, that man has not committed a crime?

I don't think everyone who is hispanic qualifies as someone who "looks illegal", but for those that you pretty much know are, why should they not be allowed to investigate?

What's the difference in that, and asking the bloody man who is just walking down the street, how he got bloody?