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Damnyouall on 09 April 2010

Three more things in favor of PS3:
1) You can use any USB controllers (for instance those awesome Saturn USB pads), which is cool for fighting games.
2) Free w-lan adapter
3) Free online



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ithis on 09 April 2010
Alic0004 said:

Alright, going to try to offer some data here... hopefully the thread doesn't explode.


The number of Japanese RPGs is actually pretty close between the 360 and the PS3, though keep in mind two of the better Japanese RPGs for the PS3 are strategy RPGs, meaning the games play out more like Final Fantasy Tactics, Shining Force, or Fire Emblem than they do a traditional JRPG -- the emphasis is on a large cast of charaters and large scale battles.


Xbox 360:

Resonance of Fate
Final Fantasy XIII
The Last Remnant (An underrated game!)
Infinite Undiscovery
Tales Of Vesperia (Great game, especially if you like anime inspired graphics and story! Also has four player local coop for battles! Not when you're exploring, though.)
Lost Odyssey
Blue Dragon
Magna Carta 2
Star Ocean 4
Eternal Sonata


PS3:


Resonance of Fate
Final Fantasy XIII
Disgaea 3
White Knight Chronicles (Another underrated game. If you want to try a traditional JRPG with online coop, this is probably the first game ever to offer it. Be warned: The story is pretty cheesy.)
Folklore
Demon's Souls (If you count it as a JRPG. It's more like 3D Zelda meets Diablo in a medieval Japanese survival-horror... or something.)
The Last Rebellion (Horrible game, from what I've heard...)
Valkyria Chronicles
Star Ocean 4 International Edition (has some extras, like more party members, that the 360 version didn't get.)
Eternal Sonata (Also has extras that the 360 version didn't get. Two other characters, more story, I think?)

 

 

Hope this list is a force of good, and not evil, in helping you decide the current standing of the consoles and their JRPGs.  :)

Add to that Enchanted Arms for both consoles, which I liked.

Well, being one of the two JRPGs I played in a loooong time (the other is Persona 3, which I didn't finish), one might say I don't have much expertise to judge. 



Damnyouall on 09 April 2010

Also: PS3 now has a larger install base in Japan than Saturn ever had, so expect many JRPGs.



"Well certainly with the Xbox 360, we had some challenges at the launch. Once we identified that we took control of it. We wanted to do it right by our customers. Our customers are very important to us." -Larry "Major Nelson" Hryb (10/2013). Note: RRoD was fixed with the Jasper-revision 3 years after the launch of 360

"People don't pay attention to a lot of the details."-Yusuf Mehdi explaining why Xbone DRM scheme would succeed

"Fortunately we have a product for people who aren't able to get some form of connectivity; it's called Xbox 360,”-Don Mattrick

"The region locking of the 3DS wasn't done for profits on games"-MDMAlliance

Ravage27 on 09 April 2010

The PS3 has

- The largest and most active fighting game community (based on my experience with BlazBlue)
- All the critically acclaimed JRPGs (fact) and FF13 Versus is a PS3-exclusive
- Superior versions of the most popular JRPGs (fact)

PS3:

FF13 (1080p CGI and 720p Gameplay, NO framerate problems, 1 BluRay)
SO4 (Japanese voice option, improved targeting in combat, 1 BluRay)

360:

FF13 (576p CGI and Gameplay, framerate problems in Chapter 11, 3 DVDs)
SO4 (No dual language option, horrible english voice actors, frequent disc swapping when backtracking)

There's only one obvious choice if you are big on JRPGs. The PS3 complete dominance over Japan's HD market means that every single blockbuster JRPG is practically guaranteed to appear on the PS3 from now on. Not to mention the collection of exclusive niche JRPGs that shows up every now and then. (in fact, one was announced in the forums yesterday)

Since you consider yourself an 'old' gamer, you will probably be able to appreciate the masterpiece that is Demon's Souls.
There's more innovation and fresh ideas in that game than an entire decade worth of JRPGs. If you are willing to try something new that forces you to think, don't EVER miss out on this game.Read some of the users' reviews in metacritic http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/demonssouls

Fighting games tend to sell much better on the PS3.

Tekken(PS3) : 1.47 mil       Tekken(360) : 0.74 mil

It is clear where most of the fighting fans are at. And keep in mind that unlike the 360, playing online with the PS3 is completely FREE. There's nothing stopping you from playing Tekken online every once in a while.

 

At the end of the day, if your passion lies with JRPGs and Fighting games, choose the PS3. You won't go wrong with that decision.



rakugakist on 09 April 2010
Luney Tune said:
ElGranCabeza said:

Actually no, most of what you wrote is opinion, you do have a couple of facts there. The only facts you have there is that VF5 is better than the PS3 online - considering the PS3 version is not even online that's a given, that DOA4 is an exclusive game, albeit a very bad one IMHO. While most multiplat are indeed better on 360, that's not actually the case with the fighting games as they're pretty much equal across all platforms. Your assumption that any JRPG fan that loves DS = PS3 fanboy is ludcirous at best, especially considering DS is one of the highest praised games this generation, getting numerous awards, winning RPG of the year from certain places last year and even getting Gamespot 2009 overall Game of the Year. Your description of bosses is also very poor, no offense, and I don't blame you for not remembering, since you hated the game.


Samurai Shodown Sen is a 360 exclusive: FACT.

Multiplatform fighting games are for the most part a little better on the 360. FACT. According to Eurogamer/Digital Foundry Street Fighter IV is superior on the 360, Soul Calibur IV is marginally better, while Tekken 6 is considered equal on both systems. According to Lens of Truth, Street Fighter IV and Tekken 6 are both slightly better on the 360 (although 360 Tekken 6 won because of faster load times from disc, which is a stupid argument as both games offer a HD install option). BlazBlue is considered equal on both systems. I wasn't able to find a single fighting game that was considered superior on the PS3 on either site.

   http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/face-off-street-fighter-iv-article

   http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/xbox-360-vs-ps3-face-off-round-14-article?page=2

   http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=4042

   http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=15929

The 360 hardware scaler can considerably reduce input lag in fighting games. FACT.

I wasn't describing the bosses in Demon's Souls, I was describing how I killed them with little effort. And you can indeed kill all the smaller stingrays (or whatever the hell they're called) safely from within (not behind) the house if you're patient. It's actually a great farming spot for souls if I remember correctly.

And I *never* claimed that "JRPG fan that loves DS = PS3 fanboy". You're twisting my words. And the fact that Demon's Souls is a widely praised game doesn't mean unbiased JRPG lovers in general will like it.

As a tournament SF player, I can say that this information is false.  Come on people, let the OP make his choice without the urge to push your own personal agenda.



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deskpro2k3 on 09 April 2010
Luney Tune said:

If you don't care about HD-DVD, then get a PS3.

It's library of fighting games and JRPG's is *way* better than what the 360 offers.  In fact when it comes to JRPG's the 360 is (currently) one of  the worst consoles I've ever owned. The 360 does have the weaker version of FF13, but that's pretty much all it has. The rest of it's JRPG library is mostly made up of ultra high budget titles. If you're looking for a traditional JRPG with decent production values that is exclusive to the PS3, then you can choose many titles (!). And that is after nearly four years on the market ! And all I see on the horizon is yet more high budget titles. The 360 isn't that great for JRPG's but it does have a small handful of decent low budget titles, which is a hell of alot less than what the PS3 currently offers.

The 360 fighting game library is again much weaker than the PS3 library. The 360 has exclusives like Dead Or Alive 4 and Samurai Shodown Sen, a copycat version of Virtua Fighter 5 (online play, better graphics, "C" revision with better character balance) and the (slightly) superior version of most of the multi platform titles. The 360 also come with a hardware video upscaler that can significantly reduce input lag on many 1080p displays (crucial for fighing games). The 360 game pad is crap, but that's true for the PS3 pad as well. No true fan of fighting games would be happy with either pad. That's why there's plenty of third party fighting gamepads and arcade sticks available for both systems.

You can see more about the 360 1080p graphics here; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MakQpMSKP7I

Demon's Souls is not a game for everyone. Actually, I take that back; it's most definitely something everyone should try, but the look, seemingly unforgiving nature and themes might be a bit off-putting. Don't let them be. Every single person that owns a PS3 should at the very least rent this game to see what all the fuss is about, and those that can remember the good ol' days when games taught through the highly effective use of intense punishment and a heavy price for not playing it carefully should scoop this up instantly. It's utterly unique among the offerings on any console right now, and absolutely, positively should not be missed.

 

See, I can do this too Luney Tune.



Brennan on 09 April 2010

Cdiablo : Nearly every website is 'pro PS3' if you go this way. This website is one of the most balanced. PS3 simply has more fans.

Go read N4G if you want a 'PS3 biased' website, and even there it just shows people simply prefer the PS3 worldwide.

Maybe that's because PS games are better, who knows.



jneul on 09 April 2010

Right I have a HND in computing so pay attention to my comparison of the two consoles below.

PS3 is the more reliable and most value for money as it comes with the following

  • Blu-Ray - yes the next generation format, do not listen to the people who say Blu-Ray is not much better than DVD, once you get a HD-TV , and play a Blu-Ra you will never go back to DVD ever again, I recommend you watch films like Wall-E, Transformers, Iron Man, Watchmen, Batman Begins.
  • Wi-fi - in built wireless connectivity built.
  • HDD - it's a standard to have a Hard Drive in every PS3, wheras in the x360 Arcade no hard drive.
  • Free Online: - known as the Playstation Network, it is free, although x360 has an eqivelent, I really do not think the silver service is as fast or reliable as PSN, and the Gold Service is expensive and the only extra options it really has is cross chat and cross gaming with friends(you have to do it manually on PS3).
  • Better Capabilities - due to it's unique architecture the cell can pre-process graphical tasks for the PS3's GPU,  this means better visuals more objects on screen an so forth, not only this but the Cell processor is well known for it's mathematical prowess, hence the reason why lots of companies have bought them in huge bulk loads as super computers lol, anyway this abilites help games to have better AI, better physical effects, just look at the amazing destruction abitlity on cars for GT5(an upcoming game). Exclusive games like Uncharted 1&2, Killzones 2, Heavy Rain, and God Of War III are examples of what can be done with PS3 when you concentrate a an single engine for one platform, going multi platform means you have to cater towards the x86 architecture and a games quality is often reduced due to this, just look at any multiplatform game like Call of Duty MW2, it is nowhere near as impressive as somthing like Uncharted 2.

X360 is popular with teenagers and has alot of good FPS games, but most of them are available for PS3, and it comes with the following

  • DVD - yes it's still using the DVD format, games on x360 suffer as a result just look at FF XIII on 360 as evidence of this.
  • Better Online - some fans consider it to have better online features than PS3, but using the Gold service will cost you money and the only thing extra you get over the free PSN is Cross Chat and Cross Gaming, SO YOU DECIDE.
  • Can be Cheaper - only if you settle for the cheapest SKU without getting all the extras, depends on whther you want your console to last a long time before upgrading it (which will cost you more in the long run).

Seen as you are a mature person, the amount of youths will irritate you on XBL, you will find yourself muting them all out, not to mention most of the x360's games are available either on PC or PS3, wheras PS3 has alot of exclusive games that both look and play great that are not available for any other platform.

JRPG's avalilable on PS3

  • Demon Souls
  • Valkyria Chronicles
  • White Knight Chronicles - the most underated JRPG ever, lol, it is an oldschool JRPG at heart and will remind you of PS2 and PS1 days, be warned some parts of the story are cheesy, but believe it or not I loved it 8.4/10. If you love MMORPG's make sure you try this game out, you will be plesantly surprised at it's battle system.

JRPG's available on X360

  • Last Remnant (available and better on PC)
  • Tales Of Vesperia (available in japan on PS3)
  • Infinitive Undiscovery
  • Lost Odyssey
  • Blue Dragon

Multiplatform JRPG's

  • FF XIII (better on PS3 due to the better resolution and textures used, but both games play the same)
  • SO4 (equal on both platforms, has extra content in the PS3 version)
  • ROF (better on PS3, with better draw distance, less bluring)
  • Eternal Sonata (never played it on x360 so not sure which one is better lol)

To be honest the only JRPG worth playing on x360 is Lost Odyssey, it is made by the father of FF, and Demon Souls and VC >> any RPG on x360. Lots of RPG's and MMO's are coming to PS3 now, so it will only get better, but you will find yourself constantly broke on PS3 due to the amount of quality games, lol



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nordlead on 09 April 2010
Damnyouall said:
Three more things in favor of PS3:
1) You can use any USB controllers (for instance those awesome Saturn USB pads), which is cool for fighting games.
2) Free w-lan adapter
3) Free online

1) this isn't 100% true. I've plugged some USB controllers in and it treats multiple buttons as the same button. While the Saturn USB pads might work, others don't.




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gustave154 on 09 April 2010

lol guys stop fighting and help the guy out.



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