I am pretty sure he already critized USA before....

Why so much hating of France?  You know that you are on a English speaking site where the majorite of the users come from UK and USA right =p?

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you are right.

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not "Should" but its a self respect thing to cover up your the vital parts (not hair) of your body in public (in every religion or no religion).

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you are also right.

don't want to get into this religion stuff ( i hate the arguments =[ ), so i'll just leave this thread on its own.

I think that if the country has laws saying you cant cover up your face then of course people cant wear burkas in public.Otherwise im not really sure...

No reason for the USA to hate on France. They supported them in their quest for independence and sold Louisiana to the USA for a bargain price.

I can understand why the first colony of France hates France though. Hehe

With society.

You target the abusive husbands with society rather then laws.  You put islamic written posters is Islamic areas.  Hire public workers who speak arabic.  Reach out to these women.  That's the problem really countries don't do that.   If someone gets shot you arrest the people who shot him.

It's that simple.

Actually statistically the "crazy gun laws" don't negativly effect the USA.  The areas with more gun control tend to have higher crime rates.

Also, actually yes.  Anti-gay laws are harmful to society... because it punishes the victim.  Don't ask, Don't tell is a good example of this.  There is a problem with gay people in the militiary because a lot of the other soldiers are homophobes.  Their answer is one exactly like banning the burqa.

Though your bringing up this completely OT things simple means you can't defend your point of view anymore and furthermore concede that the US track record with regards to racism and sexism are actually better then most of Europe.  Despite the fact that we've had much less time to get where we were, what with being one of the last countries to abolish slavery.

Also, you keep claiming almost no one wears a Burqa yet this would be a huge strike against the muslims invading your country trying to turn it into a muslim state. So uh, which is it?

With every group of immigrants there are going to in fact be a few crazy extremists. Hell if I tried hard enough I'm sure i could find websites about Mexican immigrants wanting to turn part of the USA into Mexico. Black people wanting their own black continent and white people from California and or Alaska that want to be free from the US Government.

Well Alaska anyway... California somehow screwed up their state so bad they rely on government money.

Also, I'd rather support intolerant people who are mad about laws being brought against them, then intolerant people who make intolerant laws.

I'll bring up the example of the ACLU.  The American Civil Liberties Union.  A group who fights for minority rights more often then not free of charge.

They are obviously largely minority based... who's cases do they often take up?   The KKK.  Often times when the KKK is discrimintated against... it's the ACLU defending their rights.  Often with a black lawyer no less.

When someone gets shot here, they usually improve the firearms regulation law as well. That's a little less simple. In some countries.

How are you going to contact these women? They're not allowed to talk to anyone. And who will pay all of that? And I'm pretty sure most Muslims speak French here and not Arabic.

And what do you mean by Islamic areas? Mosques? They wouldn't allow posters like that there. I don't know any other area here that can be considered Islamic. And how are we going to track these abusive husbands? In most cases the women are too afraid to go to the cops or they're indoctrinated.

It's really not all that simple as you make it out to be. Yesterday for example some guys(or girls) burned a Turkish pita store here and drew swastika's on the walls(weren't you against the banning of swastika's?) 

If it was simple we'd have already solved the problem.

1)Not Muslim women.

2) Islamic Neighberhoods.  Put the flyers up... around mosques... stores near mosques etc.  By banning Burqas you accomplish one thing you make these women MORE scared, MORE isolated and make it HARDER to track these people.  Rather then having to choose between EVERY muslim woman in the country, the abused can be narrowed down to SOME who where the Burqa.  Society could make an effort to engage these women and show them what outside society is like and convince them they don't need to be bullied.  This is how you successfully help battered women of ALL races.

3) Yes, against banning the Swastika.  Not against arresting people for Arson though.  That proves my point though... banning the symbol doesn't stop the crimes or even limit them in anyway.  Now if you didn't ban swastikas... seeing what buildings decided to promonitly show them would certaintly let you know who to keep an eye on, right?  Also what racist buildings and orginizations the public could boycott?

4) It's not simple, it takes time.  Anything involving society does.  The problem is, your compounding matters rather then helping them.

Most European countries score better on "murder per capita' then the United states of America. And with better I mean less murders of course. And normal crime rates as well. Look up your statistics again. West and central europe is the place were the least intentional murders happen.

And I never said a lot of people wanted to turn it into a Muslim state. It's a very small group that recently got in the media because they disturbed a reading in a university.

Muslim countries(which are mostly extremist countries) don't have intolerant laws right? Yet you still support the extremist Muslims here. 

And unbanning the swastika would cause a lot more uproar here then that burqa thing. Not to mention that who ever unbans the swastika can say goodbye to his political career. USA was so far away from the action during WW II. We were right against it. People are a lot more sensitive about this particular subject then people in the USA.

Ps: Muslim women do speak mostly french here. I think I know, I live here ;)