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Was Leo-J right about the PS3 price-cut effect?

Yes, PS3 got back in the game on sept 09 158 47.88%
 
No, PS3 is still being outsold by Wii 26 7.88%
 
No, As long as its still ... 38 11.52%
 
Yes, PS3 has great sales and games now 82 24.85%
 
There was a price cut? 10 3.03%
 
Wii/PS3/Xbox 360 = D00M3D! 16 4.85%
 
Total:330
Demotruk on 27 March 2010
leo-j said:
The comeback was originally to overtake the wii, which it wasn't having trouble with until the wii decided to get a price cut.. and then came new super mario bros wii..

this is the biggest comeback for a 3rd place console regardless though, but not as big as it could have been, I honestly underestimated what the competitors would do.

So it wasn't so much that you thought PS3 would start doing phenomenal, Wii-like numbers, so much as it was that you thought the Wii would fall down to PS3-like numbers.



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Icyedge on 27 March 2010
Demotruk said:
Icyedge said:
Demotruk said:
A comeback would involve beating it's competitors on a weekly basis until it's in the lead. It's not even doing the first part, aside from the 360.

You decided that a comeback would mean beating its competitors on a weekly basis until its in the lead... What about the PS3 is doomed part, do you still read people saying that? Thats a great comeback in my opinion.

Wow, so people not calling it doomed at the moment = biggest comeback ever....

Obviously I didnt use the word biggest comeback ever. Good try tho!



Demotruk on 27 March 2010
Icyedge said:
Demotruk said:
Icyedge said:
Demotruk said:
A comeback would involve beating it's competitors on a weekly basis until it's in the lead. It's not even doing the first part, aside from the 360.

You decided that a comeback would mean beating its competitors on a weekly basis until its in the lead... What about the PS3 is doomed part, do you still read people saying that? Thats a great comeback in my opinion.

Wow, so people not calling it doomed at the moment = biggest comeback ever....

Obviously I didnt use the word biggest comeback ever. Good try tho!

Er, what is it that this topic is about again?

 

It's a decent comeback against the 360. And that's it.



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It is largely a technical exercise but feedback is appreciated.

Icyedge on 27 March 2010
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
Netyaroze said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
Icyedge said:
Stefan.De.Machtige said:
gamelover2000 said:

Leo-J said: I predict a 100$ Price cut on the PS3 (at that time 400$) will make it have the biggest comeback ever!

 

Now personally I'd like to know what he thinks about it nowadays.

 

So vote and please post

Beating the Xbox360 may be called a comeback.

Taking the wii may be called a biggest comeback ever.

The PS3 has not done either. It's just selling a lot better. And bragging about a forced 100$ pricecut like it was part of some plan, is rather silly. Why do people always forget that Sony's hand was forced - big time for Sony's part! Like Nintendo's was last year of Microsoft's before that.

In my opinion the PS3 isn't making a comeback.  

Its pretty obvious cutting price was part of the plan to make PS3 more accessible. When you release a home console at 600$ you know that only your hardcore fan will purchase it. And then slowly cut the price to make it more accessible while not loosing too much money was the obvious plan. And yes since september it have outsold xbox so there goes your " The PS3 has not done either". With the growing interest in HD, 3D and blu-ray, the PS3 at 199$ (in 1-2 years) will sell like hotcake. PS3 still has a lot of potential sales. 299$ is not a pricetag for casual nor impulsive purchase. Its not because you prefer another console that you need to be blind and a hater.

Blind and hater??

first of all: All consolesmakers dropped the price because they had too. I just said that Sony had the biggest need for it. Which is true.   

By beating the Xbox360: i mean passing its' total numbers off course. What else?

With another 2 year (likely start of a new generation) there is little chance that the PS3 wil pass the Xbox360 numbers. Microsoft is really keen on keeping it that way. 

Lastly:

By any measure, a comeback is not a comeback when your ranking doesn't change. That's true and accepted in any competition.  

 

 

Ranking doesnt change ? What do you expect the PS3 to close a 8 Million gap within 6 months ? Even if the PS3 would have sold Wii like numbers it wouldnt be able to close the 8 Million gap.

Look at the yoy increase and say its no comeback. 2009 looked horrible worse then 2008 until the pricecut and after the pricecut everything changed it managed even to sell more then the 360 in the peak year by 2 Million units despite beeing down before the pricecut thats an comeback in my eyes. PS3 was often 3rd place before the pricecut. And after it it was a stable second place.

Compare September 2008-march 2009 and September 2009 and March 2010.

 

 

That's the whole point, isn't? The 'ranking' is about total salesnumbers. It was in every generation, in this one and the next one.

Sure, the PS3 is selling far better then ever, but it's still in last place. And it's chances of getting to second are slim.

 

You can use weekly sales number to demonstrate a comeback, not necessarily lifetime sales number. You can also use the perception of the population to demonstrate a comeback... Dont know why you decided that the only way to make a comeback is to pass at least one of the competitor lifetime sales number.



fighter on 27 March 2010

A comeback to what ?


to when it "playstation made profits : no
to when playstation was 1st in home console market share : certainly not
to when playstation was not last : even that, no


I'm sorry but this is not as much a comeback as a failed attempt to a comeback.



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Icyedge on 27 March 2010
Demotruk said:
Icyedge said:
Demotruk said:
Icyedge said:
Demotruk said:
A comeback would involve beating it's competitors on a weekly basis until it's in the lead. It's not even doing the first part, aside from the 360.

You decided that a comeback would mean beating its competitors on a weekly basis until its in the lead... What about the PS3 is doomed part, do you still read people saying that? Thats a great comeback in my opinion.

Wow, so people not calling it doomed at the moment = biggest comeback ever....

Obviously I didnt use the word biggest comeback ever. Good try tho!

Er, what is it that this topic is about again?

 

It's a decent comeback against the 360. And that's it.

I didnt agree with the OP but I also didnt agree there was no comeback at all. I think I explained correctly my idea. Sorry I didnt clarify I didnt agree it was the biggest comeback ever.

I agree with your second sentence. But would also add, it was quite a comeback for the image of Sony and the PS3 brand.



fighter on 27 March 2010
Boutros said:
fighter said:

It only showed how PS3's problem doesn't come from its' entry price or its' size.


So no, not only is it not a comeback it is proof the whole PS3 business model was poorly designed to begin with.

So now the PS3 Slim effect was bad? O_o

 

seeing how it's insufficient the key to a comeback lies elsewhere or is simply impossible.



superchunk on 27 March 2010

While it has been doing very well since it hit $299 / slim, I wouldn't call it a comeback as it is still 5m behind 360 and 1/2 of Wii. Essentially nothing really changed since launch.

Granted, that could be different a year from now, but for now its essentially the same.



Icyedge on 27 March 2010
fighter said:
A comeback to what ?


to when it "playstation made profits : no
to when playstation was 1st in home console market share : certainly not
to when playstation was not last : even that, no


I'm sorry but this is not as much a comeback as a failed attempt to a comeback.

No they are not last anymore fighter... Dont know where you found that information. Even lifetime would be equal if it would have been release at the same time. Profit has nothing to do with comeback in popularity. You need to hate PS3 and Sony to say that starting september 2009 there was no comeback in sales and popularity of the PS3. Whatever is the other console sales, PS3 more than double is own sales since then, quite a comeback there considering PS2 was the highest selling console and then PS3 was doomed.



Icyedge on 27 March 2010
superchunk said:
While it has been doing very well since it hit $299 / slim, I wouldn't call it a comeback as it is still 5m behind 360 and 1/2 of Wii. Essentially nothing really changed since launch.

Granted, that could be different a year from now, but for now its essentially the same.

Why are you using the lifetime sales number? It is not behind 360 ever since september.