Squilliam said: It doesn't do other OS. Lost its memory card reader/2 usb ports so therefore can't do everything at once. It doesn't do web at all that well. Its louder than any specialised Blu Ray player I know of and the older it gets the louder it gets. You can rip CDs to it but so can iTunes and that syncs with peoples iPods/Phones and thats much more useful. Probably more but I can't be bothered. Its a jack of all trades but hardly the best at whatever it tries to do nor does it encompass the 'everything moniker'

Im not too sure of the underline part. Unless the first patch of 60 GB are quieter then the other models. Mine is not enclose and you dont hear it at all.

Other things are very good examples tho, because you demonstrate that it even looses some of his own functions. How could it do everything if they even remove things from it. Im surprise that on the legal side they didnt have any problems with that claim.

@ Squilliam

My fat PS3 is pretty silent, other Blu-Ray movie players of course can often do with passive cooling and usually don't sport a harddrive. The 360 is actually the noisiest CD/DVD player I have ever experienced.

The PS3 may also get less noisy, once the fan starts to fail.



Not a hardware issue, you can use firefox on the fat PS3s if you want. I think it's a nice extra to have.



It has the most beautifull games and may still be the most future proof Blu-Ray movie player out there.

Yes, it does everything that I NEED IT TO DO. That is good enough for me.

It also fixes itself, which is both awesome and a bit skery.

how can you skype on ps3?

GreyianStorm said: It still doesn't cook my steaks thoroughly. Damn grill keeps burning the outsides while leaving the insides raw!

lmao.

MikeB said: @ Squilliam Its louder than any specialised Blu Ray player I know of and the older it gets the louder it gets. My fat PS3 is pretty silent, other Blu-Ray movie players of course can often do with passive cooling and usually don't sport a harddrive. The 360 is actually the noisiest CD/DVD player I have ever experienced. The PS3 may also get less noisy, once the fan starts to fail. It doesn't do web at all that well. Not a hardware issue, you can use firefox on the fat PS3s if you want. I think it's a nice extra to have. Its a jack of all trades but hardly the best at whatever it tries to do nor does it encompass the 'everything moniker' It has the most beautifull games and may still be the most future proof Blu-Ray movie player out there.

 

Good someone backing me up about the noise. I also forgot to tell you that your last example wasnt good considering theres magnificient games on PS3 and that the blu ray player is awesome.

I still laugh when they say "It only does everything", they should put a "except plays PS2 games" in little print on the ads.

lol, thats an example why on a legal side im surprise they have no problems.

Icyedge said: Squilliam said: It doesn't do other OS. Lost its memory card reader/2 usb ports so therefore can't do everything at once. It doesn't do web at all that well. Its louder than any specialised Blu Ray player I know of and the older it gets the louder it gets. You can rip CDs to it but so can iTunes and that syncs with peoples iPods/Phones and thats much more useful. Probably more but I can't be bothered. Its a jack of all trades but hardly the best at whatever it tries to do nor does it encompass the 'everything moniker'   Im not too sure of the underline part. Unless the first patch of 60 GB are quieter then the other models. Mine is not enclose and you dont hear it at all. Other things are very good examples tho, because you demonstrate that it even looses some of his own functions. How could it do everything if they even remove things from it. Im surprise that on the legal side they didnt have any problems with that claim.

They get noisier over time which is my experience. Mine isn't enclosed either but I certainly do hear it and its comparable in noise to my Xbox 360. My HTPC which currently has its two 120mm fans set on high (for testing purposes) is actually quieter.

As far as the legal claim, im not sure they probably have some grounds within the vaguaries of the english language.

Quiet you can maybe get away with, which is a relative term because many audiophiles have almost silent soundscapes as theres no point in introducing noise when it can be avoided. Silent however means silence, as in absolutely no noise and other Blu Ray players have the PS3 beat on this metric. What you think of the 360 noise is irrelevant.

My firefox is using 455MB of Ram over 9 tabs, so most certainly it is a hardware issue. In addition to this, newer PS3s can't boot into Linux which limits the browser options.

Still people can quibble over a few things like for instance the fact that almost every single game is upscaled on a 1080P set. Also having the most beautiful games is a subjective thing, personally my HTPC loaded with a quad core X86 and an HD 5750 produces more beautiful games than the PS3 at my Bravias native resolution.

 

 

@ Squilliam

I mean, I don't hear my PS3 unless I'm sitting next to it with the volume turned down.

Resolution is one of many aspects making a game prettier, a bad looking movie in DVD quality will look bad on Blu-Ray as well. You can make many old PC games render in very high resolutions, but there usually isn't much to gain as the texture quality, polygon counts, special effects aren't that good by today's standards. Blu-Ray allows for a great varierty of high quality assets, but it's just one of various different aspects why the PS3's top games are at the very top with regard to production value and presentation. Credit should go just as well to the excellence of the developers as to the PS3's technical specifications.

And my PC is pretty damn noisy nowadays and I replaced its main fan just 2 years ago...