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BoneArk said:
I think Sony + Nintendo would be a better collaboration than Microsoft imo.

We all saw how that turned out last time...



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Sony + MSFT should come together and take down Nintendo. :D

Will never happen, but I would love to see the death of that plumber.



Squilliam said:

The reason why I say this is because it appears that both will be better able to meet their goals working together than they will working seperately. Microsoft isn't averse to working with other competitors, even in the same industry so cue Apple if you want and Microsoft perfectly matches Nintendo in terms of shoring up their weaknesses in networking, development environment and they would both benefit from having similar hardware and that hardware can be produced cheaper with better economies of scale for both parties.

Did you think of this while you were high?



I dont think its beneficial for nintendo. there are a lot of costs to consider, not just the IP, there are initial investments and long term maintenance costs, and nintendo doesn't have to go to microsoft, some technologies used by in xbox live might not have been their own technology, purchasing usage rights are common on techno firms considering high R&D costs. and nintendo has a differentiation strategy, they'd rather avoid a competitive market by producing unique products that are not present in the market, considering the console industry requires high initial investments and requires long development time for a product to be feasible, competitors would not have enough time to copy their tech.
and most nintendo users really don't care about online gaming.



I wouldn't see Nintendo working with Microsoft or Apple. With both of them having their foot in the gaming world, they might consider their Intellectual Properties at risk.

Google is too obvious, but I doubt it will happen. I think Google has ambitions towards an Android-compatible gaming system on the way, to follow Apple's iPhone.

Maybe they could try a large internet company that does not seem close to entering the gaming market (Yahoo?) or perhaps something like Steam, not owned by direct competition?



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This is assuming Nintendo wants an XBox Live style online system. Those systems are popular among Halo players who like to shout racial slurs 24/7, but the super-hardcore is staying away from the Wii. Nintendo isn't going to spend millions of dollars to appeal to people who don't even buy their system or games.



Wii has more 20 million sellers than PS3 has 5 million sellers.

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Showertea said:
This is assuming Nintendo wants an XBox Live style online system. Those systems are popular among Halo players who like to shout racial slurs 24/7, but the super-hardcore is staying away from the Wii. Nintendo isn't going to spend millions of dollars to appeal to people who don't even buy their system or games.


If they thought like that, would we even have the Wii?



Nintendo has always been a fairly stubborn company. That isn't a bad characteristic by any means, but I seriously doubt they'd ever work with a direct competitor under any circumstances.



 

 



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Squilliam said:

The reason why I say this is because it appears that both will be better able to meet their goals working together than they will working seperately. Microsoft isn't averse to working with other competitors, even in the same industry so cue Apple if you want and Microsoft perfectly matches Nintendo in terms of shoring up their weaknesses in networking, development environment and they would both benefit from having similar hardware and that hardware can be produced cheaper with better economies of scale for both parties.

Advantages Nintendo:

  1. Microsoft already has the kind of network Nintendo would like to have and they even have technologies like real time bleeping of voice communication which aren't available anywhere else. If Nintendo were to build a network like Live for themselves it would cost them over a billion dollars whereas Microsoft already has one ready to go.
  2. Nintendo has struggled somewhat with development support and Microsoft has already got the bridges built between console/PC which they would want to leverage as their interface shares many commonalities with the mouse. Microsoft already has some of the best development tools available which would help Nintendo create even better games even more quickly than before whilst ensuring supurb 3rd party support.
  3. They will not have to build their own next generation hardware, they can simply base it upon pre-existing technology which would speed time to market for them and allow them to focus on unique differentiating technologies rather than the box which is pretty irrelevant at this point once they have the form factor/power requirements inside the range they want.

Advantages Microsoft:

  1. Their Live network benefits from every additional user they can get. Its a network effect. So long as people are subscrbing to Live they are winning. The more subscribers they have the easier it is to gain additional subscribers, momentum is everything with networks; see Facebook vs Myspace for instance.
  2. They can leverage the cost of their hardware development over a wider and larger base of hardware which gives them leverage to work out even better deals with technology companies and this can lower the per unit cost quite considerably.
  3. It gives them an exit strategy in the console space if they want to take it. If they can carry on Live through Nintendo hardware even if they are no longer successful with their own they no longer have to take the risk of further losses on hardware.

The oh-so-subtle subtext here is MS fans should cooperate with Nintendo fans against annoying Sony fans, or at least that's the only explanation I can come up with for this that makes sense; I would be hard pressed to come up with two other companies with less compatible corporate cultures and unaligned interests.

So Nintendo should want to be acquired by MS so they can integrate MS's realtime bleeping tech? Seriously? You're a better Sophist than that Squilliam. I would suggest advocating the merging of Nintendo with a codeword substitute for MS in the form of some notoriously pro-microsoft proxy, such as valve. It would have the advantage of being less obvious, and might even make sense as long as you didn't think about it for too long.