Kasz216 said:
FaRmLaNd said:
Thats what I've been telling people in Australia for a long time. Though more in regards to indonesia then China. People just seem to think its a walk in the park to invade another country. Projecting power is tremendously difficult and costly.
Especially when dealing with water.
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Yeah, I mean... granted Australia and Indoneisa are a lot closer together... so the Indonesians could land on Australia fairly eaisly... but what they're going to be landing on is brutal areas people don't want to live on... and once the invasion starts... chances are their shipping lanes would be cut off by the Australian ships... and the troops would be routed and bombed into submission.
Plus moving through that land would be well... just counter productive and not worth it. It'd be like trying to cross the Sahara to invade southern africa.
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From a military standpoint...
Projection is always the issue. In an argument of China v. anyone from a naval point of view (Taiwan, Japan, Australia, Philippines, Indonesia, ect) it would be very difficult for China to win.
Think about it. China has a very low chance of a sucessful invasion of Taiwan, 1v1. Think about how small Taiwan is. China simply does not have the maritime force to transport the kind of men and material needed to invade and occupy them. Yes, they could decimate the country via air and mainland artillery forces, and they certainly have the troops, but not the ships.
Much in the same way, you could argue a maritime invasion of almost anywhere by anyone. Even the USA has had its allies helping to prevent maritime invasions. In the case of Iraq, we built up in Kuwait first to invade Iraq.
Taking any country in the pacific rim, sans those that are on the mainland, would be disaster for about everyone. Heck, look at the US vs. Japan in WW2...We had some god-awful bloody battles on little rocks, despite having some nice tech. It would be no different with China invading anyone.
On the other end, you have advantages for pacific rim nations - South Korea could be a staging ground for any invasion of mainland China. Although it decimate South Korea in the process (at least that is likely), you could invade China rather easily. I mean, the Japanese did it, after all.
For Indonesia v. Australia....That is a laughable argument. Indonesia has about 20 modern fighters mixed between F-16 Block 15s, SU-27's and SU-30's. Australia has 71 modern F-18s which would overwhelm Indonesian air assets, and be able to bomb naval assets at will. Sufficive to say....It would be so unbelievably one-sided that Indonesia would have a death wish unless they were aided by another power. Oh, and the Aussies have 21 F-111's still in service. That would significantly help with the conflict.