First off, don't put words in my mouth. Nowhere did i say the sony's flight controller was pretty much the same as the nintendo 64 controller, only that it had dual analog sticks thus providing inspiration for sony's handheld controller.
Did you miss this part: First, it wasn't actually analog. Analog joysticks like the 5200's had too many moving parts and were prone to breaking. Nintendo's stick was digital, but provided enough levels of sensitivity that the distinction was moot.
So nintendo obviously followed suit by making their subsequesnt controllers with analog sticks on them.
Looks just like a thumbstick to me.
Fine, the Vectrex had indeed an analog thumbstick. However, it didn't make it past the status of a gimmick and it didn't add anything substantial to gameplay. It's not surprising in the least that the Nintendo 64 controller had a much bigger impact on the industry. It's important to note that video games are more than just hardware and without the correct software, technology becomes meaningless.
Regarding the missed part: No, I didn't miss it. In the same sentence the article states that the distinction is moot which to me means negligible, not worth mentioning.
No rol it couldnt be used as a thumbstick and was never marketed (not even ment as one if the designers werent complete morons) as one you could not reach button 1 (and had troube to reach 2) if you used it as a thumb stick.You played with this as a stationary controller thats how it was ment to play and was marketed the same way you played in the arcade halls.
It was the best joystick out there at the time and it deserves credit for it not for being a thumbstick it never was. It was the best joystick closly followed by the tac3 wich would have been the best if it werent for the fact they broke easy as hell.
I forgot about the colecovision as well which also used a thumbstick. And don't even try and bullshit me by trying to say it wasn't a thumbstick cause this one i actually played on.
Ive played that one too and I seriously doubt you played it because if you did you would know its a 4 directional joystick witch you held in your left hand (or right) and controlled it with your right hand (or left) with they grey buttons on the side that you needed to use for all games but frogger you couldnt use that either as a thumbstick.
You are so beyond pathetic with your scourinng the internet to discredit Nintendo.
I can save you some time there were a few other gamecosoles that were from Taiwan wich you could use with your thumb but none of them were thumbsticks.
Also noone said Nintendo invented the thumbstick the innovated it there is a big difference.
I dont know who actually invented it, it could have been Nintendo but i dont know the point is they get credit for inovating it in the way that everyone is using it today.
Thanks for proving your are trolling Nintendo in any way you can just to prove your point and take away credit from them.
You even go as far as trying to change the legacy of the awesome Vectrex just to prove your point and now you are blatantly lying that you played this console just to do the same.
Anyone who has played this knows you didnt controll it with your thumbs not even with frogger, sure there may have been someone trying but it was never intended to be usedf that way and you can clearly see it on the design if you havent actually played it wich you obviously havent.
I've been around since the days of the magnavox odyssey. You're goddamn right i've played on it.
THE GUY IN THE GODDAMN VIDEO OWNS THE FUCKING THING. HE'S CALLING IT A THUMBSTICK. HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOO
Wow, delusional nintendo fans at their worst. Scouring the internet? Remembering the colecovision and checking on youtube is scouring? And yes there are many nintendo fans who think nintendo invented it. Obviously they didn't.
I already proved you wrong with the vectrex videos. Nobody holds the thing you said...WRONG AGAIN. Once again the guy in the videos owns the thing. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he's a little more clued in than you are.
Do NOT ever call me a liar again.
Then stop lying.
The vextrex is used exacly as i said and so is colecovision.
How would you be able to use the grey action buttons on the sides of the controller if u used it as a thumbstick?
They guy is using a modern term to an old technology and it is a 4 directional joystick he even says so himself in the video.
If you actually played the thing you would know it couldnt be used as a thumbstick unless you only played frogger wich didnt use the grey action buttons.
I am done with you you are obviously trolling and lying and sinking so low so you would try and change the whole legacy of the vectrex shame on you.
Good bye and good riddence.
Just about everything you said contradicted this guy in the videos who actually owns these things and I'm the one lying. Wonderful logic.
I suggest you actually watch the videos because you obviously haven't used the controllers.
First off, don't put words in my mouth. Nowhere did i say the sony's flight controller was pretty much the same as the nintendo 64 controller, only that it had dual analog sticks thus providing inspiration for sony's handheld controller.
Did you miss this part: First, it wasn't actually analog. Analog joysticks like the 5200's had too many moving parts and were prone to breaking. Nintendo's stick was digital, but provided enough levels of sensitivity that the distinction was moot.
So nintendo obviously followed suit by making their subsequesnt controllers with analog sticks on them.
Looks just like a thumbstick to me.
Fine, the Vectrex had indeed an analog thumbstick. However, it didn't make it past the status of a gimmick and it didn't add anything substantial to gameplay. It's not surprising in the least that the Nintendo 64 controller had a much bigger impact on the industry. It's important to note that video games are more than just hardware and without the correct software, technology becomes meaningless.
Regarding the missed part: No, I didn't miss it. In the same sentence the article states that the distinction is moot which to me means negligible, not worth mentioning.
No rol it couldnt be used as a thumbstick and was never marketed (not even ment as one if the designers werent complete morons) as one you could not reach button 1 (and had troube to reach 2) if you used it as a thumb stick.You played with this as a stationary controller thats how it was ment to play and was marketed the same way you played in the arcade halls.
It was the best joystick out there at the time and it deserves credit for it not for being a thumbstick it never was. It was the best joystick closly followed by the tac3 wich would have been the best if it werent for the fact they broke easy as hell.
I forgot about the colecovision as well which also used a thumbstick. And don't even try and bullshit me by trying to say it wasn't a thumbstick cause this one i actually played on.
Ive played that one too and I seriously doubt you played it because if you did you would know its a 4 directional joystick witch you held in your left hand (or right) and controlled it with your right hand (or left) with they grey buttons on the side that you needed to use for all games but frogger you couldnt use that either as a thumbstick.
You are so beyond pathetic with your scourinng the internet to discredit Nintendo.
I can save you some time there were a few other gamecosoles that were from Taiwan wich you could use with your thumb but none of them were thumbsticks.
Also noone said Nintendo invented the thumbstick the innovated it there is a big difference.
I dont know who actually invented it, it could have been Nintendo but i dont know the point is they get credit for inovating it in the way that everyone is using it today.
Thanks for proving your are trolling Nintendo in any way you can just to prove your point and take away credit from them.
You even go as far as trying to change the legacy of the awesome Vectrex just to prove your point and now you are blatantly lying that you played this console just to do the same.
Anyone who has played this knows you didnt controll it with your thumbs not even with frogger, sure there may have been someone trying but it was never intended to be usedf that way and you can clearly see it on the design if you havent actually played it wich you obviously havent.
I've been around since the days of the magnavox odyssey. You're goddamn right i've played on it.
THE GUY IN THE GODDAMN VIDEO OWNS THE FUCKING THING. HE'S CALLING IT A THUMBSTICK. HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOO
Wow, delusional nintendo fans at their worst. Scouring the internet? Remembering the colecovision and checking on youtube is scouring? And yes there are many nintendo fans who think nintendo invented it. Obviously they didn't.
I already proved you wrong with the vectrex videos. Nobody holds the thing you said...WRONG AGAIN. Once again the guy in the videos owns the thing. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he's a little more clued in than you are.
Do NOT ever call me a liar again.
Then stop lying.
The vextrex is used exacly as i said and so is colecovision.
How would you be able to use the grey action buttons on the sides of the controller if u used it as a thumbstick?
They guy is using a modern term to an old technology and it is a 4 directional joystick he even says so himself in the video.
If you actually played the thing you would know it couldnt be used as a thumbstick unless you only played frogger wich didnt use the grey action buttons.
I am done with you you are obviously trolling and lying and sinking so low so you would try and change the whole legacy of the vectrex shame on you.
Good bye and good riddence.
Just about everything you said contradicted this guy in the videos who actually owns these things and I'm the one lying. Wonderful logic.
I suggest you actually watch the videos because you obviously haven't used the controllers.
I suggest you do the same as I already have and listen to when he is talking about the grey buttons on the side and you will understand how you need to hold the controller to be able to play anything but frogger.
Thank you for proving you never played it by your comments.
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If laughing is the best medicine and marijuana makes you laugh
Is marijuana the best medicine?
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
“If any creator has not played Mario, then they’re probably not a good creator. That’s something I can say with 100 percent confidence. Mario is, for game creators, the development bible.
Just about everything you said contradicted this guy in the videos who actually owns these things and I'm the one lying. Wonderful logic.
I suggest you actually watch the videos because you obviously haven't used the controllers.
I suggest you do the same as I already have and listen to when he is talking about the grey buttons on the side and you will understand how you need to hold the controller to be able to play anything but frogger.
Thank you for proving you never played it by your comments.
The guy demonstrates it during the whole video as a thumbstick. What the hell is wrong with you?
I remember how awesome donkey kong was on it cause the atari 2600 version sucked ass.
Ok i'm back. I'm honestly not trying to troll here i just find the history of this stuff fascinating and i like to get to the truth of things. Its very irritating seeing these people who grew up with nintendo making comments on a daily basis that somehow most everything video game related originated with nintendo.
Here's a vid of the vectrex working brilliantly as a thumbstick:
The problem with nintendo's statement is that sony didn't really copy the wii remote. They had the idea when they were demonstrating the eyetoy back in 2004. You can't critisize someone for plagarising others when they had the idea in the first place.
And as for them not knowing what they copied, isn't the classic controller a copy of the playstation controller because of the button layouts? Isn't the fact that the wii can be placed vertically as well as horizontally a copy of the playstation 2's?
Ok i'm back. I'm honestly not trying to troll here i just find the history of this stuff fascinating and i like to get to the truth of things. Its very irritating seeing these people who grew up with nintendo making comments on a daily basis that somehow most everything video game related originated with nintendo.
Here's a vid of the vectrex working brilliantly as a thumbstick:
another interesting vectrex vid:
vectrex was quite ahead of it's time
If you listenend to the video you would have hear him saying it was a joystick and not a thumbstick.
Yes you could play with it as a thumbstick if the game only required 2 buttons and you played caualy like he did but if you tried to break records or play more seriously you would never play like that and it was never meant to either. Note that he said it was an arcade like experience and guess what they didn play or use thubsticks in the arcades and still dont.
Funny how you only interested in showing a video proving your false points and dont play the videos that actually show how to play them or how they were marketed as arcade consoles for the home.
This first video shows you the problems with using it like a thumbstick and why it wasnt used like one, this girl in the video is trying to hold and controll it the way we play today and see how hard it is to reach the inner buttons:
This second vidoe shows the some of the games it had and how u use the inner buttons and how it was intended to be played and it was also marketed that way:
Vaio - "Bury me at Milanello" R.I.P AC Milan In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.
If laughing is the best medicine and marijuana makes you laugh
Is marijuana the best medicine?
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
“If any creator has not played Mario, then they’re probably not a good creator. That’s something I can say with 100 percent confidence. Mario is, for game creators, the development bible.
Ok i'm back. I'm honestly not trying to troll here i just find the history of this stuff fascinating and i like to get to the truth of things. Its very irritating seeing these people who grew up with nintendo making comments on a daily basis that somehow most everything video game related originated with nintendo.
Here's a vid of the vectrex working brilliantly as a thumbstick:
another interesting vectrex vid:
vectrex was quite ahead of it's time
If you listenend to the video you would have hear him saying it was a joystick and not a thumbstick.
Yes you could play with it as a thumbstick if the game only required 2 buttons and you played caualy like he did but if you tried to break records or play more seriously you would never play like that and it was never meant to either. Note that he said it was an arcade like experience and guess what they didn play or use thubsticks in the arcades and still dont.
Funny how you only interested in showing a video proving your false points and dont play the videos that actually show how to play them or how they were marketed as arcade consoles for the home.
This first video shows you the problems with using it like a thumbstick and why it wasnt used like one, this girl in the video is trying to hold and controll it the way we play today and see how hard it is to reach the inner buttons:
This second vidoe shows the some of the games it had and how u use the inner buttons and how it was intended to be played and it was also marketed that way:
Vaio - "Bury me at Milanello" R.I.P AC Milan In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it normal.
If laughing is the best medicine and marijuana makes you laugh
Is marijuana the best medicine?
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
“If any creator has not played Mario, then they’re probably not a good creator. That’s something I can say with 100 percent confidence. Mario is, for game creators, the development bible.
L.C.E.C. said: OK guys, time for me to explain the method behind the madness:
1. My girlfriend is very sick and needs lots of rest. I have had almost zero contact with her (maybe a total of 30 minutes?) over the past 3 days. I was not only bored but I also needed a source of entertainment and cheer.
2. I was in school. AP Biology to be specific. My teacher is fairly incompetent at her job, thus I get on this site every day in her class.
3. I stared in disbelief at the new Sony move pictures. I think they even used the same hand model.
4. I was looking for an old picture in image search, but accidentally did a standard google search, and found an actual article... I read it andwas at first, shocked at the force the NOE representative had... Then (reading the rumble part) I realized it was from 2006. I had never seen the article, and apparently not many others did at the time. In fact, if you took out that segment (or if you didn't know that the Move has rumble) and changed the date, the article seems completely relevant (and in my honest opinion, true for the most part).
5. I realized that most people didn't know much about the move, considering it's new status, and probably wouldn't notice the rumble comment.
6. I thought, "this would be fun", and posted the article as I left class.
7. I came home a bit later and checked it up and read the comments... Very entertaining, to say the least.
8. Many people were fooled, even a few mods at first. XD
9. Many people were shocked (at the agressiveness).
10. A few people trolled, slightly entertaining.
11. I laughed my ass off several times. Especially that little debate about whether or not Nintendo brought the thumbstick into conception. Seriously? LMAO.
12. One more thing: History repeats itself. I honestly would laugh if something similar happened, although they would probably say it less troll-y (If that is a word).
13. Oh yeah, and... People will continue to comment on it and be fooled because on this site, no-one seems to read the comments.
