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Xoj on 14 March 2010
Lolcislaw said:
lol do you really want FF XIII to get lower scores from the reviewers just because the game is on the 360?

I mean it is the same game, and there are only minor differences beetween versions. Fallout 3 or Bayonetta were completely different stories, with one version filled with bugs.

well other that it's inferior, and many multiplatforms even have less problems and got a lower score on the ps3.

it's called being you know "fair".



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rocketpig on 14 March 2010
Gnizmo said:
Reasonable said:

The number of conspiracy threads is just getting crazy at the moment.  Seems most threads these days are either asking obvious questions (will GT5 sell more than Forza?), positing some conspiracy (mainly regarding review site bias) or trying to stealth troll either the 360 or the PS3 (nothing new there I guess).

So few threads seem to be about more meaty topics anymore.  It's a shame.

Sadly most of the meaty topics have been hashed out too many times. The size of the site is also the cause of a lot of problems. Even the best moderation can't keep people from stealth trolling, or blatantly trolling a thread immediatly. It further breaks down when you get the hardcore fans of a system that refuse to admit there is a possible negative aspect to their console, and just throw around acusations of trolling and bias randomly. I miss the old forums, but unfortunately you can never go back.

There are plenty of topics but unfortunately, the forum-goers around here are continually proving that they are incapable of independent though.




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Lolcislaw on 14 March 2010
Xoj said:
Lolcislaw said:
lol do you really want FF XIII to get lower scores from the reviewers just because the game is on the 360?

I mean it is the same game, and there are only minor differences beetween versions. Fallout 3 or Bayonetta were completely different stories, with one version filled with bugs.

well other that it's inferior, and many multiplatforms even have less problems and got a lower score on the ps3.

it's called being you know "fair".

FF XIII is an RPG game it delivers the same story, characters , world and exprience on Xbox 360. Just because PS3 version edges 360 in few technicalities it doesnt mean that 360 game is inferior, especially when we talk about a RPG genre in which visuals are less important. 

 



Reasonable on 14 March 2010
Gnizmo said:
Reasonable said:

The number of conspiracy threads is just getting crazy at the moment.  Seems most threads these days are either asking obvious questions (will GT5 sell more than Forza?), positing some conspiracy (mainly regarding review site bias) or trying to stealth troll either the 360 or the PS3 (nothing new there I guess).

So few threads seem to be about more meaty topics anymore.  It's a shame.

Sadly most of the meaty topics have been hashed out too many times. The size of the site is also the cause of a lot of problems. Even the best moderation can't keep people from stealth trolling, or blatantly trolling a thread immediatly. It further breaks down when you get the hardcore fans of a system that refuse to admit there is a possible negative aspect to their console, and just throw around acusations of trolling and bias randomly. I miss the old forums, but unfortunately you can never go back.

Yah, the forums did seem better before.  Hopefully this is just a 'phase' they're going through because I'm not sure how much more of the obvious crap that goes on I can be bothered with.  There are lots of great posters, still, which is why I hang around, but recently the drek has been at flood levels.



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rocketpig on 14 March 2010
Xoj said:
Lolcislaw said:
lol do you really want FF XIII to get lower scores from the reviewers just because the game is on the 360?

I mean it is the same game, and there are only minor differences beetween versions. Fallout 3 or Bayonetta were completely different stories, with one version filled with bugs.

well other that it's inferior, and many multiplatforms even have less problems and got a lower score on the ps3.

it's called being you know "fair".

Pray tell, what other multiplats had less problems and received a lower score? I have to admit that I'm absolutely DYING to see this list of supposed transgressions.




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Reasonable on 14 March 2010
CGI-Quality said:
Reasonable said:
rocketpig said:
Anyway, back on topic, some of you PS3 owners are bordering on paranoid delusion. The only time IGN gives out two scores (and reviews) is when there is enough of a difference between the two versions to warrant such a thing. In FFXIII's case, that's obviously not so.

Stop creating these massive conspiracy theories, take a fucking Xanax, and GO PLAY SOME VIDEO GAMES. Jesus.

The number of conspiracy threads is just getting crazy at the moment.  Seems most threads these days are either asking obvious questions (will GT5 sell more than Forza?), positing some conspiracy (mainly regarding review site bias) or trying to stealth troll either the 360 or the PS3 (nothing new there I guess).

So few threads seem to be about more meaty topics anymore.  It's a shame.

The ultimate tragedy of this all.

Looking on the bright side, if I can find the time to get Heavy Rain finished then I can finally dive into the story discussion threads I've been avoiding so far.  After that it's Bioshock 2 and FFXIII to complete.  Plus I need to get BFBC2.

At least the gaming is good at the moment!



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gekkokamen on 14 March 2010

^the thing is, sites and magazines shouldn't group reviews for all the versions of a particular videogame. If they make ONE review, then fine, tell it like it is and specify at the top of the review which version was played (just like Edge does -fuck Edge, btw, but they do that one right lol-

Sites like IGN (and others) want to keep platform sections separeted for their audience, Hey, that's cool and all but they're not being exactly honest with their readers when they review/preview a game that was simply NOT PLAYED on their console of choice. And anyone may argue sometimes the differences are so minimal is not worth having a guy (or two guys) spend time and effort going through different versions, and that's a valid point. However, I really do think they should ALWAYS, as a rule, specify which version was used for the main review and on a side note tell of whatever discrepancies users may find in the other(s) versions.

Making it look like they are playing both versions is completely wrong. Seriously if they won't take the time to review all available versions of a game, what is there to convince us they played enough of the (other) version to point out "every important" thing that could differentiate them?

And we all know they knock down points for many technical things, and sometimes the most insignificant or impercievable stuff as if they're going on a whim to find flaws in game. What if the other version they *certainly didn't play* has as much "flaws" and then some more? They can't really tell if they didn't play it, now can they? What if there's a game-crashing bug or some noticeable graphic/gameplay flaw you're not aware of 'cause it's way far into game or whatever and the just don't know 'cause they just took the other version, play through it a while and determined it was "pretty much the same" as the other used for the review.

Take for example Mass Effect 2. The guy from IGN had a game-crashing bug while reviewing. Did he knock dowm points for that? no, he didn't. What if the PC version doesn't have that bug? then I'd say it's certainly worthy of a better score? you bet. There are many examples you can find on this topic. The main thing is, to me at least, they can't keep grouping reviews of different versions, it's just not ethical or accurate.



Kenryoku_Maxis on 14 March 2010

BAHAHAHA. IGN bias against the PS3? I'm sorry....that's...that's just funny. If anything, they're downscoring Wii and DS games while inflating scores for certain PS3 and 360 games in comparison.


I know people are getting flustered at the FFXIII scores, but really now....



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scat398 on 14 March 2010

With FF the problem with giving a lower score to the 360 version VS. the ps3 version is that the 360 version actually runs better. There's no question that the PS3 version looks better but I understand why they gave it the same score.

If you look at the games IGN has scored lower on one than the other it has always been because of performance and not graphics.



Xoj on 14 March 2010
Lolcislaw said:
Xoj said:
Lolcislaw said:
lol do you really want FF XIII to get lower scores from the reviewers just because the game is on the 360?

I mean it is the same game, and there are only minor differences beetween versions. Fallout 3 or Bayonetta were completely different stories, with one version filled with bugs.

well other that it's inferior, and many multiplatforms even have less problems and got a lower score on the ps3.

it's called being you know "fair".

FF XIII is an RPG game it delivers the same story, characters , world and exprience on Xbox 360. Just because PS3 version edges 360 in few technicalities it doesnt mean that 360 game is inferior, especially when we talk about a RPG genre in which visuals are less important. 

 

what? its FF visuals are important especially CGI, and it's not only graphics, 360 have been reported having freezing in game certain more than ps3 version, texture pop ups etc.