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Akvod said:
mirgro said:
Akvod said:
mirgro said:

Yeah I can kill the higher level guy if I catch him off guard, but that's not a fair fight there.

Squad games without levelling are perfectly fine, as in Tribes or TF, the ones with levelling are really quite annoying and bad.

Wow, you're an gentleman.

You keep saying they're bad, but can you tell us why? The only reason I get from you is that you can't kill a person head on. But that's not even true. You get the specializations fairly quickly, and the weapons are balanced, no one weapon is better than the other. the AK weapon you start out with has a very high rate of fire with decent damage compared to the F2000. It's very great for close/medium range, and in burst fire can take out guys pretty far. The M16A2, the last gun you unlock, isn't that great for close quarters, and is better for medium/long range. the MG3, the final gun you unlock as a medic, isn't that great, while I see some people using the PKM, and I'm using the 2nd unlocked gun the M24 SAW.

And like I posted earlier, if you're really worried about spending forever to level up, don't worry. I think DICE was too generous and makes leveling up so easy that it's almost like it doesn't exist. Subsequently, as a result, the game has become more run and gun like you wanted than I would have liked (KylieDog jokingly suggested that a game give zero exp to the losing team. I think that should be the case to make players focus whole heartidely on completing the objectives and winning, not protecting K/D ratio).

 

Look how easy and quick leveling up is:

 

You are not understanding. I am fully aware of the fact that in a bunch of games the last guns are not necessarily the best. That has been the case since there ever were more "exclusive guns" even in Counter-Strike where the machine gun that costs over 5k is worse than the AK. The point is, why should there be any form of levelling up to get those if I wanted them? I mean hell, if I wanted the Machine ugn right away I just join an instan $16k server and it's that simple? Can I do that in BC2? No? Bad game.

Because without any form of leveling we have people like you who despise support roles and teamwork, and just run around and gunning, while ignoring the M-COM station that gives a 100 points. DICE and me have a pessimistic and cynical view on players, and you just reinforce that sentiment. We have players like you who just want to grab any gun they want and run straight at people, instead of coordinating to flank, to get objectives, to throw medkits, repair tanks, etc.

 

You yourself have said it. You just want to shoot. I don't want BC2 to become what CoD has become. A shallow game that's actually more reminscent to bad quality MMOs that simply give people a false sense of accomplishment for low effort. I don't want to just run in a straight line and aim for the head. That's not a game, it has no strategy, only twitching.

DICE forces players like you to actually care about your team mates by depriving you of the weapons you so desperately whine for by giving you points for good behavior and requiring points to unlock weapons. It's simple reinforcement, and if even throwing a medkit in the middle of a crowd and raking in thousands of points like that video demonstrated is too hard for you, go play your precious WoW and don't come back. Players like you are only a liability to the game, and I wholeheartedly am glad you don't like the game, as you'll only ruin it by joining the community.

 

Funny cause the Engineer and Medic are my 3rd and 5th most played classes in TF2. But keep on assuming bullshit and trying to come up with sorry excuses. For a while the Engineer was #1 except that I started playing the pyro and Heavy to grab a few achievements. So yeah... your whole point jsut fell apart right there. Also the fact that there are engineers and medics almost every time when they are needed also states that your reasons are bullshit.

Quick edit: I think my lowest played class was the Soldier actually, the literal go in and shoot class.



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mirgro said:
Akvod said:
mirgro said:
Akvod said:
mirgro said:

Yeah I can kill the higher level guy if I catch him off guard, but that's not a fair fight there.

Squad games without levelling are perfectly fine, as in Tribes or TF, the ones with levelling are really quite annoying and bad.

Wow, you're an gentleman.

You keep saying they're bad, but can you tell us why? The only reason I get from you is that you can't kill a person head on. But that's not even true. You get the specializations fairly quickly, and the weapons are balanced, no one weapon is better than the other. the AK weapon you start out with has a very high rate of fire with decent damage compared to the F2000. It's very great for close/medium range, and in burst fire can take out guys pretty far. The M16A2, the last gun you unlock, isn't that great for close quarters, and is better for medium/long range. the MG3, the final gun you unlock as a medic, isn't that great, while I see some people using the PKM, and I'm using the 2nd unlocked gun the M24 SAW.

And like I posted earlier, if you're really worried about spending forever to level up, don't worry. I think DICE was too generous and makes leveling up so easy that it's almost like it doesn't exist. Subsequently, as a result, the game has become more run and gun like you wanted than I would have liked (KylieDog jokingly suggested that a game give zero exp to the losing team. I think that should be the case to make players focus whole heartidely on completing the objectives and winning, not protecting K/D ratio).

 

Look how easy and quick leveling up is:

 

You are not understanding. I am fully aware of the fact that in a bunch of games the last guns are not necessarily the best. That has been the case since there ever were more "exclusive guns" even in Counter-Strike where the machine gun that costs over 5k is worse than the AK. The point is, why should there be any form of levelling up to get those if I wanted them? I mean hell, if I wanted the Machine ugn right away I just join an instan $16k server and it's that simple? Can I do that in BC2? No? Bad game.

Because without any form of leveling we have people like you who despise support roles and teamwork, and just run around and gunning, while ignoring the M-COM station that gives a 100 points. DICE and me have a pessimistic and cynical view on players, and you just reinforce that sentiment. We have players like you who just want to grab any gun they want and run straight at people, instead of coordinating to flank, to get objectives, to throw medkits, repair tanks, etc.

 

You yourself have said it. You just want to shoot. I don't want BC2 to become what CoD has become. A shallow game that's actually more reminscent to bad quality MMOs that simply give people a false sense of accomplishment for low effort. I don't want to just run in a straight line and aim for the head. That's not a game, it has no strategy, only twitching.

DICE forces players like you to actually care about your team mates by depriving you of the weapons you so desperately whine for by giving you points for good behavior and requiring points to unlock weapons. It's simple reinforcement, and if even throwing a medkit in the middle of a crowd and raking in thousands of points like that video demonstrated is too hard for you, go play your precious WoW and don't come back. Players like you are only a liability to the game, and I wholeheartedly am glad you don't like the game, as you'll only ruin it by joining the community.

 

Funny cause the Engineer and Medic are my 3rd and 5th most played classes in TF2. But keep on assuming bullshit and trying to come up with sorry excuses. For a while the Engineer was #1 except that I started playing the pyro and Heavy to grab a few achievements. SO yeah... your whole point jsut fell apart right there.

not like it wasn't a grind for achievements to get weapons before in TF2, now it's even worse that it depends on chance =_=; but that doesn't stop me from loving TF2, and that won't stop me from playing Bad Company 2 either, you are weird. =P



dahuman said:
mirgro said:
 

Funny cause the Engineer and Medic are my 3rd and 5th most played classes in TF2. But keep on assuming bullshit and trying to come up with sorry excuses. For a while the Engineer was #1 except that I started playing the pyro and Heavy to grab a few achievements. SO yeah... your whole point jsut fell apart right there.

not like it wasn't a grind for achievements to get weapons before in TF2, now it's even worse that it depends on chance =_=; but that doesn't stop me from loving TF2, and that won't stop me from playing Bad Company 2 either, you are weird. =P

If you really wanted the guns you would have jumped in an achievement server and gotten them in 20 mins. Dunno why anyone would grind for guns in that game.



mirgro said:
dahuman said:
mirgro said:
 

Funny cause the Engineer and Medic are my 3rd and 5th most played classes in TF2. But keep on assuming bullshit and trying to come up with sorry excuses. For a while the Engineer was #1 except that I started playing the pyro and Heavy to grab a few achievements. SO yeah... your whole point jsut fell apart right there.

not like it wasn't a grind for achievements to get weapons before in TF2, now it's even worse that it depends on chance =_=; but that doesn't stop me from loving TF2, and that won't stop me from playing Bad Company 2 either, you are weird. =P

If you really wanted the guns you would have jumped in an achievement server and gotten them in 20 mins. Dunno why anyone would grind for guns in that game.

It's not grinding. It's very easy and fast to get points if you play as a team player. Have you watched any of the videos I posted?



Akvod said:
mirgro said:
dahuman said:
mirgro said:
 

Funny cause the Engineer and Medic are my 3rd and 5th most played classes in TF2. But keep on assuming bullshit and trying to come up with sorry excuses. For a while the Engineer was #1 except that I started playing the pyro and Heavy to grab a few achievements. SO yeah... your whole point jsut fell apart right there.

not like it wasn't a grind for achievements to get weapons before in TF2, now it's even worse that it depends on chance =_=; but that doesn't stop me from loving TF2, and that won't stop me from playing Bad Company 2 either, you are weird. =P

If you really wanted the guns you would have jumped in an achievement server and gotten them in 20 mins. Dunno why anyone would grind for guns in that game.

It's not grinding. It's very easy and fast to get points if you play as a team player. Have you watched any of the videos I posted?

I've been seeing the game with my own two eyes for a bit now, I really don't need to see more of it. I was also talking about TF2 there.



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mirgro said:
Akvod said:
mirgro said:
dahuman said:
mirgro said:
 

Funny cause the Engineer and Medic are my 3rd and 5th most played classes in TF2. But keep on assuming bullshit and trying to come up with sorry excuses. For a while the Engineer was #1 except that I started playing the pyro and Heavy to grab a few achievements. SO yeah... your whole point jsut fell apart right there.

not like it wasn't a grind for achievements to get weapons before in TF2, now it's even worse that it depends on chance =_=; but that doesn't stop me from loving TF2, and that won't stop me from playing Bad Company 2 either, you are weird. =P

If you really wanted the guns you would have jumped in an achievement server and gotten them in 20 mins. Dunno why anyone would grind for guns in that game.

It's not grinding. It's very easy and fast to get points if you play as a team player. Have you watched any of the videos I posted?

I've been seeing the game with my own two eyes for a bit now, I really don't need to see more of it. I was also talking about TF2 there.

And I'm talking about Bad Company 2. If you're a team player, and you've been playing the game, you should have been progressing very fast and getting nearly all your unlocks. If you're not, then you're simply not a good enough team player.

Is it too demanding for me to ask you for your soldier's name? I'm assuming on the PC.



Akvod said:

And I'm talking about Bad Company 2. If you're a team player, and you've been playing the game, you should have been progressing very fast and getting nearly all your unlocks. If you're not, then you're simply not a good enough team player.

Is it too demanding for me to ask you for your soldier's name? I'm assuming on the PC.

Remember how I mentioned playing only in the Beta and not buying it because of the leveling crap?



mirgro said:
dahuman said:
mirgro said:
 

Funny cause the Engineer and Medic are my 3rd and 5th most played classes in TF2. But keep on assuming bullshit and trying to come up with sorry excuses. For a while the Engineer was #1 except that I started playing the pyro and Heavy to grab a few achievements. SO yeah... your whole point jsut fell apart right there.

not like it wasn't a grind for achievements to get weapons before in TF2, now it's even worse that it depends on chance =_=; but that doesn't stop me from loving TF2, and that won't stop me from playing Bad Company 2 either, you are weird. =P

If you really wanted the guns you would have jumped in an achievement server and gotten them in 20 mins. Dunno why anyone would grind for guns in that game.

don't like to cheat in games that I pay for. sounds like you are just pissed because you can't cheat your way out of it.



mirgro said:
Akvod said:
 

And I'm talking about Bad Company 2. If you're a team player, and you've been playing the game, you should have been progressing very fast and getting nearly all your unlocks. If you're not, then you're simply not a good enough team player.

Is it too demanding for me to ask you for your soldier's name? I'm assuming on the PC.

Remember how I mentioned playing only in the Beta and not buying it because of the leveling crap?

In the PS3 beta they made leveling up extremely slow to slow down unlocks. I'm assuming that it's the same in the PC.

 

Congradulations. You've based your decision on a final game purchase on a BETA >.<



dahuman said:
mirgro said:
dahuman said:
mirgro said:
 

Funny cause the Engineer and Medic are my 3rd and 5th most played classes in TF2. But keep on assuming bullshit and trying to come up with sorry excuses. For a while the Engineer was #1 except that I started playing the pyro and Heavy to grab a few achievements. SO yeah... your whole point jsut fell apart right there.

not like it wasn't a grind for achievements to get weapons before in TF2, now it's even worse that it depends on chance =_=; but that doesn't stop me from loving TF2, and that won't stop me from playing Bad Company 2 either, you are weird. =P

If you really wanted the guns you would have jumped in an achievement server and gotten them in 20 mins. Dunno why anyone would grind for guns in that game.

don't like to cheat in games that I pay for. sounds like you are just pissed because you can't cheat your way out of it.

Valve has ways to get rid of all that and you know it. Remember the hats issue? If they thought it was cheating they could easily make it so achievement servers don't functoin or they can simply take all your items away. So no, sorry, it's not cheating. What it is is not wanting to put up with bullshit.

@akvod

You haven't been around a lot have you. You also seema bit slow in understanding what I am saying. Even the few hours in TF2 piss me off, it doesn't matter how fast it is, it shouldn't exist. I have already dismantled your "encourages tactics" bullshit and now you are just grasping at straws.