@ numonex )

lol,that's the funniest comment I'll read all day ... what makes it funny are your hate postings in FF13 related news and that now you want to tell us you had the game preordered

I know that Edge grades on a wider scale in general. I also haven't played the game, so I can't really offer any judgment. However, I will say this:

A game being polished is different from a game simply not having glaring or game-breaking bugs. The number of really polished video games we get every year is actually very small, and I do think that a highly polished game (say one that offers a smoother experience than 99% of the other games released every year) should indeed get above a mediocre or average score, whether or not the reviewer agrees with the design philosophies of the game. You don't give Starcraft a mediocre review just because you've never liked an RTS -- you grade it mainly based on its execution.

Second, it seems to me JRPGs are getting the stuffing beaten out of them by reviewers this generation. Again, I don't know whether FFXIII is an incredibly polished game (it may just be the graphics) but reviewing something based on the direction you think games should go in or based on the type of games you prefer and want to see more of is not something that video game reviews have done very much in the past. If it becomes more standard to do so, reviews may behave very differently in the future. For example, if I were to honestly review first person shooters on consoles, based on the amount of enjoyment I get out of them, most would average around a four or five, with a few going up as high as seven.

Again, I'm not saying that's what's going on with FFXIII, but if it is a very polished and well-executed game I think there will be a pretty clear trend of extremely polished JRPGs getting review scores that rank them next to cheap movie game tie-ins and shovelware, and if that's the case, the fanbase for JRPGs needs to start making some (fucking) noise, because the last thing a genre that very few are bothering to invest in needs is a bunch of professionals telling consumers to stay away, with no other clear voice telling them those reviewers don't know what they're talking about.

Because, obviously, the J stands for turn-based, not Japanese. Obviously.

And the W is action, not Western, duh!

Jrpg is a title given to a specific rpg genre that comes out of Japan. Demons Souls doesn't fit the descrpition of this specific genre thus it's not a jrpg.

It does not make sense. If you expect game to be crap and it turns out to be average then it should receive 10 in your opinion then. If WKC and FF XIII turns out to be as good games then they should receive exact same score. You can only give it worse score than WKC if you think FF XIII is worse.

JRPG as an genre has not evolve, crazy thing is, FFXIII is the game SE tried to be a little different, yet still get blasted by fans and reviewers.

thank God it's not a genre I care for.

10 is far to strong of a score for anything, i'll admit, if it goes beyond personal expections it'll land at an' 8-ish outta' 10 for me, but theres no possible one it could get any higher, mainly due to its cast of playable characters.

But there's a difference between polished and fun, and that distinction seems to be forgotten. A game can be very very polished and still at it's core lack a high level of entertainment or enjoyment.

The review seems to center on the reviewer's belief that essentially, the first half of the game is BORING. And he needs to review based on what people as a whole, not just JRPG fans, would like and believe. Just because a few million people would not find it boring, doesn't mean the other ~50 million gamers won't, and that's important to think about to when reviewing. He can't just cater to the JRPG fans, he has to review it as a gamer. After reading the review, it looks like he does that.

They should've made something like FFXII again. Now that was a damn good game no matter what the fanboys say. Story was weak, but it had everything else than an rpg  needs.

Um, From Software, you know the developer that made Demon's Souls, is a Japanese developer. Demon's Souls is a JRPG.