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While I agree that the game looks beautiful, it's not without its limitations.
About the comment about how there should be more games displaying this kind of mastery, it's hard to frame a game the way they did with AW.
When you're going for a high level of graphic detail, you need to make compromises. Such as heaving the game take place in very dark areas, fog, and limited environment. It's like Super Mario Galaxy. To reach that level of graphic detail, they had to break the worlds up into manageable pieces.
However, both environments work really well within the context of the game, and it's nigh imperceptible that it's been segmented.
My point is, it's very difficult to come up with a very convincing level of segmentation without ruining the atmosphere and context. It isn't like you can just remove all trees and call it an alien world with no trees. You need something concrete.
Alan Wake does an amazing job of conveying the scope perfectly,....just don't expect it to be like that for every game.



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coolbeans said:
psrock said:
selnor said:
psrock said:
selnor said:
psrock said:
You agree with the article Selnor?


Um hell yeah. I posted my very own article about the Unreal Engine Effect about 5 days ago. Funny how previews of Alan Wake start coming and they basically say what I said. In fact for years I have said the 360 could easily do anything the PS3 can if it had specially designed engines.

You agree that there is nothing on the 360 right now that can compete with the PS3 games until Alan Wake comes, right?

There's only one issue.

Personally, like some reviewers to. Mass Effect 2 was at the front. Or at least on par with PS3. Maybe not technically speaking, but however Bioware achieved it they made it look the best. But Wake looks another level. Hell they use Crysis in the comparison. It's now a case of U2, KZ2 Crysis competeing with AW. Something tells me Alan Wake will get the graphics of the Year awards this year.

Where you here last week? Because we were talking about a small game that looks destroyed Uncharted 2 in visuals, just killed it. I hope Alan can beat 2009 best, but we are in 2010 now, there are new games to deal with, check out march 16th.

YES, another Metro fan I see .

 

You sir earn a friend request.

 

nvm



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This game will deliver.



psrock said:
selnor said:
psrock said:
selnor said:
psrock said:
You agree with the article Selnor?


Um hell yeah. I posted my very own article about the Unreal Engine Effect about 5 days ago. Funny how previews of Alan Wake start coming and they basically say what I said. In fact for years I have said the 360 could easily do anything the PS3 can if it had specially designed engines.

You agree that there is nothing on the 360 right now that can compete with the PS3 games until Alan Wake comes, right?

There's only one issue.

Personally, like some reviewers to. Mass Effect 2 was at the front. Or at least on par with PS3. Maybe not technically speaking, but however Bioware achieved it they made it look the best. But Wake looks another level. Hell they use Crysis in the comparison. It's now a case of U2, KZ2 Crysis competeing with AW. Something tells me Alan Wake will get the graphics of the Year awards this year.

Where you here last week? Because we were talking about a small game that looks destroyed Uncharted 2 in visuals, just killed it. I hope Alan can beat 2009 best, but we are in 2010 now, there are new games to deal with, check out march 16th.

Gamersyde have previewed GOW3. They didnt mention GOW3 alongside U2, KZ2 and Crysis. So obviously they dont think it's in that league overall.



Who's gameryde?



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Not gonna doubt Remedy, this game is gonna be amazing....



For some reason I don't think it will be better than ps3 exclusives. I might be the best in 360 but not better than ps3 the ps3 games. I'm glad to see the 360 finally trying to catch up to the ps3. I hope they don't stop there and keep going. Co
petition us always good us gamers which crates better stuff for us to enjoy. I saw keep it up MS make Sony work even harder which will make ya work harder. Wii is lost



theprof00 said:
While I agree that the game looks beautiful, it's not without its limitations.
About the comment about how there should be more games displaying this kind of mastery, it's hard to frame a game the way they did with AW.
When you're going for a high level of graphic detail, you need to make compromises. Such as heaving the game take place in very dark areas, fog, and limited environment. It's like Super Mario Galaxy. To reach that level of graphic detail, they had to break the worlds up into manageable pieces.
However, both environments work really well within the context of the game, and it's nigh imperceptible that it's been segmented.
My point is, it's very difficult to come up with a very convincing level of segmentation without ruining the atmosphere and context. It isn't like you can just remove all trees and call it an alien world with no trees. You need something concrete.
Alan Wake does an amazing job of conveying the scope perfectly,....just don't expect it to be like that for every game.


They also mention huge levels. And the game has daytime to. So I'm guessing the scope is big in this game. Not confined and limited environment as you may suggest.



selnor said:
psrock said:
selnor said:
psrock said:
selnor said:
psrock said:
You agree with the article Selnor?


Um hell yeah. I posted my very own article about the Unreal Engine Effect about 5 days ago. Funny how previews of Alan Wake start coming and they basically say what I said. In fact for years I have said the 360 could easily do anything the PS3 can if it had specially designed engines.

You agree that there is nothing on the 360 right now that can compete with the PS3 games until Alan Wake comes, right?

There's only one issue.

Personally, like some reviewers to. Mass Effect 2 was at the front. Or at least on par with PS3. Maybe not technically speaking, but however Bioware achieved it they made it look the best. But Wake looks another level. Hell they use Crysis in the comparison. It's now a case of U2, KZ2 Crysis competeing with AW. Something tells me Alan Wake will get the graphics of the Year awards this year.

Where you here last week? Because we were talking about a small game that looks destroyed Uncharted 2 in visuals, just killed it. I hope Alan can beat 2009 best, but we are in 2010 now, there are new games to deal with, check out march 16th.

Gamersyde have previewed GOW3. They didnt mention GOW3 alongside U2, KZ2 and Crysis. So obviously they dont think it's in that league overall.

I don't need gamersyde to to tell me, i SAW it my self. Have you seen those videos? It's CGI but it's real gameplay, just crazy. I admit that Alan Wake looks amazing in the dark, but it's going to be tough to out do the competition this year. I think it's going to do very well sales wise though.



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CGI-Quality said:
selnor said:
psrock said:
selnor said:
psrock said:
selnor said:
psrock said:
You agree with the article Selnor?


Um hell yeah. I posted my very own article about the Unreal Engine Effect about 5 days ago. Funny how previews of Alan Wake start coming and they basically say what I said. In fact for years I have said the 360 could easily do anything the PS3 can if it had specially designed engines.

You agree that there is nothing on the 360 right now that can compete with the PS3 games until Alan Wake comes, right?

There's only one issue.

Personally, like some reviewers to. Mass Effect 2 was at the front. Or at least on par with PS3. Maybe not technically speaking, but however Bioware achieved it they made it look the best. But Wake looks another level. Hell they use Crysis in the comparison. It's now a case of U2, KZ2 Crysis competeing with AW. Something tells me Alan Wake will get the graphics of the Year awards this year.

Where you here last week? Because we were talking about a small game that looks destroyed Uncharted 2 in visuals, just killed it. I hope Alan can beat 2009 best, but we are in 2010 now, there are new games to deal with, check out march 16th.

Gamersyde have previewed GOW3. They didnt mention GOW3 alongside U2, KZ2 and Crysis. So obviously they dont think it's in that league overall.

Really, go check out what IGN said.

Either way, Alan Wake will deliver, I just don't see it topping God of War III in reviews for visuals.

I guess we will see. ;)GOW3 is also smaller in scale. levels are smaller for a start, not as hugely open. Of course I havent played it to say for sure, but if my copies of GOW1 and 2 and general hacknslash gaming has showed me, this genre will always be that way.