most of the time with situation such as this school close and students will transfer...

Dude your school sucks.

Over here, we have too much paper, about hundreds of computers, and... well a lot of nice stuff.

But we're an average high school. Your's just.... is bad.

NiKKoM said: Kasz216 said: Uusally it's not so much the lack of paper that's a problem... it's the fact that the copy machines are leased usually isntead of bought, and you can only make so many copies on it before you have to pay huge fines... and teachers ALWAYS go over budged because nobody bothers to set actual limits for each teacher or do... anything that makes sense. Damn... do students notice that? at my Academy for Art and Design where I work we have changed that policy.. our college chipcards now have to be prepaid charged with an amount of prints you can have... go over that amount and you have to pay it yourself as teacher... it was messy when it was unlimited.. for the 2000 employees of Avans Hogeschool (18.000 students in 3 cities) now there are like only 50 with an unlimited print chipcard.. I'm one of them and I use it waaaay too much for non important stuff and I always print in color.. They also limited our amount of coffee we can get with the chipcards.. 100 a day.. >_>

Students noticed because the teachers actually mentioned it... pretty much every time halfway through the school year they annoucned they had to change their plans since they couldn't make so many printouts anymore. This too was in a school that scored higher then the schoolsystem average... which was higher then the state average, which was higher then the country average. It was a very good school, but they always had shit they needed fixed and claimed poor when they just made REALLY bad decisions and wasted all sorts of money. In senior year i actually skipped events because it started pissing me off so much.

ManusJustus said: Kasz216 said: That and school administrators are just dumb, because they're usually just teachers who moved up the ranks and not actual buisness people. Its a popularity contest.  The 'administration' at my high school was a bunch of people related to each other, so unsuprisingly they hired and promoted family members into the school system, that and family friends.  The state almost took over because we had such poor preformance.

Sad thing is... my school had so many problems, but my school was top notch, not exactly top 1% grades wise, but well above average in everything. It's just they thought it was a good idea to waste money on stuff like filling the courtyards with sand for a "beach movie party"... Then removing it the next day. I mean... seriously, your going to put sand... in the courtyard, so you can have beach blankets... so it's "beach theme" when you wheel out some of those small tvs on carts to watch movies on? I started skipping honor school events after that crap. w

That sounds pretty bad, my school just lots of student teacher affairs(sadly nobody got caught....yet).

Holy smokes. What is going on in all of your schools? I've been teaching for 4 years now and have been at 3 different schools and this sounds foreign to me. I suppose it could be because, well, it actually is foreign.

I teach in Canada and while we no doubt have our share of poor administrators (and teachers!) they cannot simply work their way up in the ranks from who you know (for the most part, anyway - I do know of some cases). They have to complete their masters degree in education- administration and then pay at least several years due as vice-principal/partial VP before they'd even get looked at for a head position. But again, it's geographic. It's very competitive for positions where I live.

It's actually the opposite here. As a teacher, it's who you know that will get you a position. Regardless of time put in, effectiveness, involvement, etc you will likely never get a position over a friend of an administrator. It's much less bureaucratic at that level as opposed to the administration positions.

Hearing about printing and paper issues is a bit surprising to me. The biggest issue we ever have had is having to wait til the following day for maintenance.

Whoever mentioned throwing more money at the teachers as a waste - I completely agree with. Perhaps rewarding them following results. Not just because. I mean, it goes against how we're suppose to be teaching and assessing kids anyhow.

As for putting off these large events. Typically, the only large event would be the high school prom. Everything else is usually fund-raised or sponsored. Rarely are much of the school funds used for dances/parties.

Bringing in sand... yeesh, that's more than we'd ever think about doing. It seems absurd.

It mostly has to do with the Teachers Union, I remember in middle school the teachers picketed for more money. I thought it was pretty lame, they even taught slower and made class unproductive(although as a kid I loved it, in hindsight it's just disgusting for a professional to do that) to get what they want. I am supportive of Unions, as long as they don't act like children.*cough*

This is a bummer. I was hoping that the much-predicted paperless society was starting to gain some traction, but it's just more recession and government ineptitude shenanigans.

Schools are broke, yet we keep letting in more immigrants.

La Sierra University is doing pretty good . Private Christian schools FTW!