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Lord Flashheart said:

I have one cash card 2 credit and then there's the sky box, xbox, mobile phone so it's not just 1 4 number password.
Maybe for you but other people have many to remember and can't make them all the same. It's easier to remember a word than a number and I never said I forget them. Hell I can remember the big number on my credit card but I would not be so rude as to think someone a moron for not remembering every single password and pin code.
Thinking about it god I'm glad my PS2 doesn't work because I have forgotten the 4-pin code for that


The point is you get in front of your tv and it see's you before you have time to point and click. I think it would be a great addition. Sit in front of the computer as it loads up and it sees me so loads up my settings and not the settings for any of the other 3 people in this house. The point and click is for people like you who are always changing their face or losing thier voice.

There is ZERO reasons to impliment it for you but plenty for me and others. I hope that the world never has to march to you beat and do you really expect things to be done based on whether you want it or not?

I wasn't talking about it making an avatar of your face. I had never even considered that. It doesn't appeal to me but I certainly would never say don't include it because I don't want it.

I wash my hands of this. If you cannot possibly remember a 4 character password. Your brain is messed up. It is as simple as that. 



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Akvod said:
Or can't you just use a simple password system?

No we do shit complicated!



Wow Sharky.
You really are difficult.
Please tell me where I have said I can't remember a 4-pin code other than on my broken PS2 which I believe is still 1234.
Hey I can remember.

Anyway keep using Ad hominem as your argument. Morons usually do unless you can convince me you are otherwise?


And Wow. Just wow.



People are forgetting that facial recognition is a promised feature by Microsoft for Natal.
So if it has, what about to actually...hem... use it?

Also, you're just relying in the facial reckon pause discussion, I told also that this app could be used for while-playing gestures to shut your console down, open the disc tray, skip instantly from game to movie playback, etc.



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Sharky54 said:
Lord Flashheart said:
What are you talking about?
Do you know how many forums, bank sites, email accounts make you create or creates a password for you? How are you even posting on here if you dont? Maybe you use 4 numbers but a lot of sites ask for 6 letters min with two numbers.

Maybe you have a photographic memory and your face changes every other day and your voice keeps crapping out on you but others arent like that. You are special so please don't call me a moron for being human and forgetting a password that I made 4 years ago.

Also don't presume to think that a moron like me doesn't know about password recovery.
Hey Issac Newton here's an idea. When setting up the facial recognition how about having some sort of safety feature like "mothers maiden name" "where was you born" and for super people like you a password as some sort of password recovery to reset the facial recovery software and grant you access when you completely change your face or lose your voice..
Not a bad idea from a moron hey?

I don't know what you mean about the avatars (I am a moron) but if it's something to do with mimicking the movement of the host face then that's something completely different. You're asking it to remember points on your face not sing and dance with you.

First off, its a fucking game console. A 4 character password is PLENTY. Forgetting a 21 character password okay that I can understand. Don't want people in your bank account etc. But if you forget a password as simple as 4 characters. Then hell there is something wrong with your brain.

A normal human can remember 4 characters perfectly fine. You can spell your own name can't you?

Also, why do the whole facial/voice crap if your going to end up using old "point and click" tech if that fails to work. People like to do overly complex things. there is ZERO reason to implement this. 

 

And the avatar thing was. It reads your face. And then makes an avatar of you for you. It made a female avatar for a male. real exact right? Even the software used to scan faces in important buildings can and do get it wrong and need to be checked by a human. It cant mistake a simple 4 character password can it?

Sharky54 - On your first post you just said :

 

Facial would cost far too much. Voice could work. But even that is pretty costly. Its not simple going through and finding a perfect match for either of this. And what happens if you lose your voice? Or you have an accident and your face changes? This is why we have passwords. Forget silly over complicated ideas. Instead let the console be locked at any time like with a PC. Problem solved.

Lord Flashheart made a good point, then you clarified saying "4 number passwords" - commonly known as PINs (Personal Identification Numbers) - however, in that same post where you clarified "4 number passwords" you basically called him a moron, and I quote:

Also if you forget your password. You are a moron. And deserve not to play. Its not hard to remember a string of 4 numbers. Also Email/password recovery says Hi.

You sir, were overly ignorant to Lord Flashheart imo, I can totally see where he is coming from.  On top of remembering all my "personal" passwords I also need to remember no less than 8 other passwords at work.

I can quote you my SIN, Drivers licsense number, all credit card numbers and my 2 bank card numbers by memory, however, I do occassionally get passwords mixed up because I have so many of them, as they need to follow certain rules, at least 7 characters long, a mix of uppercase and lowercase and they cannot all be letters or numbers.

So, when you memorize 20 different passwords and never forget one, or mix them up...  Actually, I don't really care



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Tanstalas said:
Sharky54 said:
Lord Flashheart said:
What are you talking about?
Do you know how many forums, bank sites, email accounts make you create or creates a password for you? How are you even posting on here if you dont? Maybe you use 4 numbers but a lot of sites ask for 6 letters min with two numbers.

Maybe you have a photographic memory and your face changes every other day and your voice keeps crapping out on you but others arent like that. You are special so please don't call me a moron for being human and forgetting a password that I made 4 years ago.

Also don't presume to think that a moron like me doesn't know about password recovery.
Hey Issac Newton here's an idea. When setting up the facial recognition how about having some sort of safety feature like "mothers maiden name" "where was you born" and for super people like you a password as some sort of password recovery to reset the facial recovery software and grant you access when you completely change your face or lose your voice..
Not a bad idea from a moron hey?

I don't know what you mean about the avatars (I am a moron) but if it's something to do with mimicking the movement of the host face then that's something completely different. You're asking it to remember points on your face not sing and dance with you.

First off, its a fucking game console. A 4 character password is PLENTY. Forgetting a 21 character password okay that I can understand. Don't want people in your bank account etc. But if you forget a password as simple as 4 characters. Then hell there is something wrong with your brain.

A normal human can remember 4 characters perfectly fine. You can spell your own name can't you?

Also, why do the whole facial/voice crap if your going to end up using old "point and click" tech if that fails to work. People like to do overly complex things. there is ZERO reason to implement this. 

 

And the avatar thing was. It reads your face. And then makes an avatar of you for you. It made a female avatar for a male. real exact right? Even the software used to scan faces in important buildings can and do get it wrong and need to be checked by a human. It cant mistake a simple 4 character password can it?

Sharky54 - On your first post you just said :

 

Facial would cost far too much. Voice could work. But even that is pretty costly. Its not simple going through and finding a perfect match for either of this. And what happens if you lose your voice? Or you have an accident and your face changes? This is why we have passwords. Forget silly over complicated ideas. Instead let the console be locked at any time like with a PC. Problem solved.

Lord Flashheart made a good point, then you clarified saying "4 number passwords" - commonly known as PINs (Personal Identification Numbers) - however, in that same post where you clarified "4 number passwords" you basically called him a moron, and I quote:

Also if you forget your password. You are a moron. And deserve not to play. Its not hard to remember a string of 4 numbers. Also Email/password recovery says Hi.

You sir, were overly ignorant to Lord Flashheart imo, I can totally see where he is coming from.  On top of remembering all my "personal" passwords I also need to remember no less than 8 other passwords at work.

I can quote you my SIN, Drivers licsense number, all credit card numbers and my 2 bank card numbers by memory, however, I do occassionally get passwords mixed up because I have so many of them, as they need to follow certain rules, at least 7 characters long, a mix of uppercase and lowercase and they cannot all be letters or numbers.

So, when you memorize 20 different passwords and never forget one, or mix them up...  Actually, I don't really care

It is 4 characters. No excuse to forget it. Your brain will forget the longer ones before it forgets a simple 4 character password. And yes I believe if you forget something so easy. That even children can do it. Then you are a moron. It is just how I feel I am sorry.



My poor thread.

Ruined for a 4 pin digit password memorizing brain capacity :(



sounds like an awesome idea!!! & if they do roll it out it defo will be standard, as with everything they roll out for the dash. But i read somewhere that they are rolling out a HUGE natal dash update where EVERYTHING can be controlled via NATAL camera & u will never have 2 pick up a controller, this includes ejecting the disk tray, pausing and playing tracks, the list will go on. So a fully NATAL compatible dash sounds awesome, cuz then I can be even more lazier than ever, wont have 2 real for the controller lol!



Bamboleo said:
My poor thread.

Ruined for a 4 pin digit password memorizing brain capacity :(

It was always going to go downhill. It had Natal in the threads title. I just didn't expect the trouble maker to be a 360 owner.