so when do you think the PS3 will drop to $200.00, this year?

those are fine price point's, but the very fact were in a recession, that has less of a chance of turning around anytime real soon,

These system's will I think be on the market far longer than some people may otherwise think these system would not because of

"after 5 or 6 year's" the hardware is too old. that is less and less of a factor in Consumer Electronic's than it is in the PC industry, yes there is quite an overlap. In this generation of system's but the Consumer Electronic's have never had top set boxes at this price that has had this much functionality all in one convergance topset box.

Media center type windows and Linux PC's are the only type that have come close to that for what would be a topset box for your living room in computer entertainment.

an that is one of the big problem's not many buy Media center PC's because many people do not even know their PC can do that, many HOME PC user's just have experience with I send EMAIL, surf  the internet, maybe play some game's here and there. some people do not know you can add a TV or USB turner to their PC's and watch and record TV's on a HD sreen that their monitor has that resolution already in CRT's for year's.

Many still do not even know that the PC's can do that. its just not that people are dumb or anything like that, it's that they have not had the time to learn about the full function's of PC's less and less time in the day to learn is the problem, or they have no desire to do so.

these system's fill that VOID

the very fact that both the xbox360 and the PS3 now also do Nitflix as part of their function's, and that the boxes are fully updateable. would that be less of a reason for people to not keep using the PS3 or xbox360 or more of a reason over time?

I think it's more not less.

Netfix is just one of the function's

Oops, totally didn't think that all the way through. I was going to say that $300 would be worth 10-15 mil, but I thought that might be a stretch. I guess, thinking about how they just dropped the price, 10-15 mil is more in line with how many more consoles the PS3 will sell at $300. I suppose the PS3 has 80 million in its sights.

To be honest though, I never see the PS3 selling for $100, ever. They aren't going to be able to cram wifi, Blu-Ray, and a hard drive into the PS3 and sell it for $100, to think so is foolish. It will be too late in the generation for sales to matter, and Sony will focus more on making money with each console sold.

this guy is right and he know's I agree with him 100%. If you loook the the shipment comparison between ps1 and ps3, you will be shocked at how close it has come to ps1 sales, so in my mind, I have a 14m prediction for this year, if it meets that then I have no doubt that PS3 will eventually hit 100m, I have loads of friends who are finally buying a PS3 this year after adopting xbox early, so the ps fanbase is starting to return, this is just the start of things, next year should be even better and I predict the peak year for PS3 will be 2012.

did  you ever think you would see something like a Netbook with  (2 ) core processor with 1 GB of ram and a 160 GB Hardrive an had  also included with wifi, 3G connectivity bluetooth ,an an a web cam with all of that  connectivity  and function sell for under $300.00?

I have been in the IT industry for a very long time, the NETBOOK is one of the if not the most disruptive technology in the PC industry as the Iphone has been in the Cellphone industry.

when i mean disruptive:

Disruptive technology and disruptive innovation are terms used in business and technology literature to describe

Innovations that improve a product or service in ways that the market does not expect, typically by being lower priced or designed for a different set of consumers.

Disruptive innovations can be broadly classified into low-end and new-market disruptive innovations. A new-market disruptive innovation is often aimed at non-consumption (i.e., consumers who would not have used the products already on the market), whereas a lower-end disruptive innovation is aimed at mainstream customers for whom price is more important than quality.Disruptive technologies are particularly threatening to the leaders of an existing market, because they are competition coming from an unexpected direction. A disruptive technology can come to dominate an existing market by either filling a role in a new market that the older technology could not fill (as cheaper, lower capacity but smaller-sized flash memory is doing for for personal data storage in the 2000's, or by successively moving up-market through performance improvements until finally displacing the market incumbents (as digital photography has replaces film photography).

In contrast to "disruptive innovation", a "sustaining" innovation does not have an effect on existing markets. Sustaining innovations may be either "discontinuous"

(i.e. "revolutionary") or "continuous" (i.e. "evolutionary"). Revolutionary innovations are not always disruptive. Although the automobile was a revolutionary innovation, it is not a disruptive innovation, because early automobiles were expensive luxury items that did not disrupt the market for horse-drawn vehicles. The market remained intact until the debut of the lower priced ford model t in 1908,

do I think the PS3 would go to $99.00 most likely no , because I think sony feel's that the value of the PS3 is worth more than that hell even in 2016 the PS3 would in all likelyhood would still be worth more of value than $100.00!

about $149.00 is most likely the lowest it would ever go and I bet it would still be selling well into the next generation .

just like the current xbox60 , thre is just too much functionality that these systems have that will still keep them viable.

since they both can act as a NETFLIX box, which is just one function. but these boxes firmware's can be updated, thus the box can still be used even if you get a new system that is an upgrade over these. just for that function alone, not including the movies you can download and stream, not to mention the game's. they could still be used in a 2nd bedroom if you have kid's.

~32.55m in 2 years is cake.  Hell, Nintendo could do it while staying at $199. It's more an inevitability than anything.

i think it can also, the Wii is a great system, for such a small size unit. and heavy for it's size to boot solid built, I like the Wii very much and as we have seen already plenty of people do also.

Wii sports sold me on it because even my dad who is in his late 70's does like the Wii bowling, and he never even had an interest into playing video game's on a game console before.

some PC flight sim's though, he was in the air force for over 34 year's retired now . so that's expected

the Wii opened up the market.

Possible? Not really

Miracles can happen if they have the right price

Oh, I'm so glad you're clear on peak years. There's a console its peak year just passed  (hint: the one with the $200 model since 17 months ago) .

so true...

I mean If you think about it would many agree that the xbox360 could Sell 100+ million system's sold world wide in 10 year's?

I think not only is it possible it's quite likely. the same goes for the PS3 I think it's quite likely it will happen strange thing's have happened this generation.

just look at the time table:

remember this is not even at the lowest price these unit's can go and were nearing in some cases mid way point for some system's in the generation cycle.

the xbox360 has by the chart's here at VGchartz has sold:

xbox360 / 38.18 million system's let's take that # and / that by the number of year's the xbox360 has been on the market.

= 8.48 million system sold per year and this year is not even over with. and the entry price is still $199.00 , and the demand is still strong in 10 year's that would be   if the current trend per year held that would be 84.8 million system's.

does anyone think that the xbox360 cannot pull over 10+ million system's sold through this year?

In my OPINION it's no doubt in my mind world wide sales yes it will,

if you take the Playstation 3

the ps3 /32.42 million system's world wide / that by the number of year's that the PS3 has been on the market.

= 9.26 million system's sold per year and once again this year is not over with. and the entry price is $299.00 and the demand is still strong that would bein 10 year's would be 92 million system's sold if the current trend held that would be 92 million system's sold.

does anyone think that the Playstation 3 cannot pull over 10 million system's sold through this year?

In my Opinion its no doubt in my mind world wide sales yes it will.

so that come's to the what would be their peak year?

say in the case of

the xbox360 will be in what some would say the 5th year and  is the peak year, but at 5 year's the XBOX360 would increase it's

# 0f system's sold /per year it's been on the market greater than what it was in the early part of this year. so it's right now 38.18 if the xbox360 does sell through 10 more million systems this year that would be 48.18 / by the number of year's on the market = 9.6 million system's per year when right now it's 8.48 million system's per year that's a

1.156   growth

and that's with a system with a price tage of $199.00 and $299.00 entry point's will that growth be the same for 2011, can the xbox maintain the 10 million+ sales for the next 2 year's I think more than likely it can..

if say Microsoft drop's the Price to $179.00

and than 149.00 by 2012

just for the arcade unit that is not even taking into account the Elite. so by 2012 what would the Price of the Elite be at?

if its $299.00 right now

my guess would be

xbox360 Elite

$245.00 in 2011 to 2012.

$199.00 in 2013 to 2014

$149.00 in late 2014 to early 2015

this would not even take into account other bundles.

I think this is a strong indicator that both the xbox360 and the PS3 will be on the market for quite some time