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Tyrannical on 19 February 2010

Once I heard it was the IRS I stopped worrying.



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ManusJustus on 19 February 2010
Zucas said:
Well it seemed like an accident at first but definitely intentional as we know now. And after reading Mr. Stack's manifesto, he's definitely not crazy but sure as hell pissed off. And not just your usual "I hate IRs" but seems to have the Che Guevara argument. After reading it he seems to be an anarchist but asking for a socialist society which makes sense if you know anything about socialism that Karl Marx wrote about.

I mean I don't want to come off as silly here, but a lot of what he writes is well true. I actually think he hit a lot of things dead on. Sad thing is though he reacted to it very poorly and this is what happens. But I think yall should try to read his manifesto he liked. It's quite interesting.

http://www.aolnews.com/article/manifesto-tied-to-alleged-pilot-in-austin-crash/19364026?icid=main|main|dl1|link1|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aolnews.com%2Farticle%2Fmanifesto-tied-to-alleged-pilot-in-austin-crash%2F19364026

In no way am I defending his actions but I do like a lot of the things he said.

He wasn't arguing for a socialist society, he was just really pissed off at people he thought wronged him.  He blamed the steel corporation and the union for abusing his old lady neigbor, he blamed the bankers greed for him losing his house, he blamed large coroporation for making it difficult for his small business to succeed, and he blamed the IRS for taxing him and bailing out large business.

I would say most Americans are upset about the the same things, its just most of us aren't crazy and wouldnt kill innocent people in anger and put our wives in children on the street in the process.



ManusJustus on 19 February 2010
NJ5 said:

I don't see what part of his manifest is left-wing. In fact, many of his arguments are pretty conservative (against big government, government cronyism, he attacks corrupt unions too). He seems like a centrist to me.

If you think it's left wing because he's against bailouts of businesses, I guess you have a weird definition of left wing.

I thought the same thing.  The guy sounds like the average conservative, blue collar American.



mrstickball on 19 February 2010

Except for the part about communism and capitalism.



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ManusJustus on 19 February 2010

Yeah, because one thing Communists can't stand is Big Goverment.  Oh, and taxes, communists are always complaining about having to pay taxes.



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Kasz216 on 19 February 2010
Zucas said:
Well it seemed like an accident at first but definitely intentional as we know now. And after reading Mr. Stack's manifesto, he's definitely not crazy but sure as hell pissed off. And not just your usual "I hate IRs" but seems to have the Che Guevara argument. After reading it he seems to be an anarchist but asking for a socialist society which makes sense if you know anything about socialism that Karl Marx wrote about.

I mean I don't want to come off as silly here, but a lot of what he writes is well true. I actually think he hit a lot of things dead on. Sad thing is though he reacted to it very poorly and this is what happens. But I think yall should try to read his manifesto he liked. It's quite interesting.

http://www.aolnews.com/article/manifesto-tied-to-alleged-pilot-in-austin-crash/19364026?icid=main|main|dl1|link1|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aolnews.com%2Farticle%2Fmanifesto-tied-to-alleged-pilot-in-austin-crash%2F19364026

In no way am I defending his actions but I do like a lot of the things he said.

The kind of socalist socety Karl Marx called for was a brutal dictatorship who made life hell for a couple of generations of people so everyone will be brainwashed into giving up current capitalistic tendencies. Additionally, Karl Marx would of never believed a world such as ours could exist as it does, and if he lived today likely wouldn't of even supported the things he said back then.

Kasz216 on 19 February 2010
ManusJustus said:

Yeah, because one thing Communists can't stand is Big Goverment.  Oh, and taxes, communists are always complaining about having to pay taxes.


Communists are againsst Big Government and Taxes. Marxist communists anyway. They want a big brtual dictatorship to come in and reshape the world population in a more unionist and collectivist group, then want the giant government to fade away... and pretty much all government since government would no longer be needed. Haven't you read the communist manifesto or any work byMarxs?

Mr Khan on 19 February 2010

There would be better targets in the city of Austin, wouldn't there?



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Pyramid Head on 19 February 2010

now that we know this is a domestic suicide bombing, all i can say to you americans is 'if you cant beat em, join em' :)

and yeh im a hater big time.



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sguy78 on 20 February 2010
ManusJustus said:
NJ5 said:

I don't see what part of his manifest is left-wing. In fact, many of his arguments are pretty conservative (against big government, government cronyism, he attacks corrupt unions too). He seems like a centrist to me.

If you think it's left wing because he's against bailouts of businesses, I guess you have a weird definition of left wing.

I thought the same thing.  The guy sounds like the average conservative, blue collar American.

Are you really going to compare a maniac to conservatives here?