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^ And why opposed to the Xbox 360, it wont have to... PS3 can sell at a higher price



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johnsobas said:
yup even in 5 years the PS3 won't be $100, of course it wont' matter at all in 5 years anyway.

why would you say that you don't think the PS3 would still be selling in 5 year's?

if you do not think so I would not bet on it if anything it may have strong sales for the PS3 mainly because even now the PS3 has not been released everywhere yet.

remember in some part's of the world the PS3 was not even released iuntil 2007 and in some 2008 until recently 2010

 Malaysia

did not get the PS3 until 20th of sept 2008

indonesia

did not get the ps3 until 1 oct 2009

Argentina

did not get the the ps3 until 2009

Chile

did not get the the ps3 until 2009

Philippines

did not get the the ps3 until 2009

Thailand

did not get the ps3 until 5th of Nov 2009

Vietnam

16th of january 2010

 



I AM BOLO

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ps:

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joeorc said:
johnsobas said:
yup even in 5 years the PS3 won't be $100, of course it wont' matter at all in 5 years anyway.

why would you say that you don't think the PS3 would still be selling in 5 year's?

if you do not think so I would not bet on it if anything it may have strong sales for the PS3 mainly because even now the PS3 has not been released everywhere yet.

remember in some part's of the world the PS3 was not even released iuntil 2007 and in some 2008 until recently 2010

 Malaysia

did not get the PS3 until 20th of sept 2008

indonesia

did not get the ps3 until 1 oct 2009

Argentina

did not get the the ps3 until 2009

Chile

did not get the the ps3 until 2009

Philippines

did not get the the ps3 until 2009

Thailand

did not get the ps3 until 5th of Nov 2009

Vietnam

16th of january 2010

 

no the ps3 will not be selling barely any systems in 5 years and those markets dont' buy software and barely matter at all.  That's exactly why they waited so long to bring it there.



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johnsobas said:
joeorc said:
johnsobas said:
yup even in 5 years the PS3 won't be $100, of course it wont' matter at all in 5 years anyway.

why would you say that you don't think the PS3 would still be selling in 5 year's?

if you do not think so I would not bet on it if anything it may have strong sales for the PS3 mainly because even now the PS3 has not been released everywhere yet.

remember in some part's of the world the PS3 was not even released iuntil 2007 and in some 2008 until recently 2010

 Malaysia

did not get the PS3 until 20th of sept 2008

indonesia

did not get the ps3 until 1 oct 2009

Argentina

did not get the the ps3 until 2009

Chile

did not get the the ps3 until 2009

Philippines

did not get the the ps3 until 2009

Thailand

did not get the ps3 until 5th of Nov 2009

Vietnam

16th of january 2010

 

no the ps3 will not be selling barely any systems in 5 years and those markets dont' buy software and barely matter at all.  That's exactly why they waited so long to bring it there.

and you want to tell them their market barly matter's at all?

then why invest there if you intend to stop selling the unit's in 5 year's?

SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT ASIA STARTS ITS PLAYSTATION® BUSINESS IN SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF VIETNAM

Date : 2010-01-16

SONY COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT ASIA STARTS ITS PLAYSTATION® BUSINESS IN SOCIALIST REPUBLIC OF VIETNAM
PlayStation®3, PlayStation®2 and PSP® (PlayStation®Portable) First Hit Vietnamese Market on 16th January,2010


Hồ Chí Minh, Socialist Republic of Vietnam, 16th January, 2010 – Sony Computer Entertainment Asia (SCE Asia) today announced that the company will initiate the PlayStation® business in Socialist Republic of Vietnam on 16th January, 2010, making the world’s popular computer entertainment systems and services available to the PlayStation fans and consumers in the country. Vietnam will be the 8th country and region in the SCE Asia territories.

Along with the initiation of the PlayStation business in Vietnam, SCE Asia will introduce to the market, PlayStation®3 (PS3™) (CECH-2006A) (body color: charcoal black) computer entertainment system featuring an extremely streamlined form factor with a 120GB Hard Disk Drive (HDD), PlayStation®2 (SCPH-90006CB) computer entertainment system, the world's most selling computer entertainment system and PSP® (PlayStation®Portable) (PSP-3006) handheld entertainment system. The PS3, PlayStation 2 and PSP system will become available in stores from 16th January, 2010, at very attractive suggested retail prices of VND 9,990,000, VND 4,490,000 and VND 5,990,000 respectively (including tax).  With the launch of the PlayStation platforms, users in Vietnam will be able to enjoy a wide variety of entertainment content including games, music and movies on the favorite entertainment systems.

The PS3 system (CECH-2006A) offers the cutting-edge features and functions such as the ability to enjoy high-definition Blu-ray™ disc (BD) movies and PS3 games as well as connecting the Internet.  The model “CECH-2006A” is the latest PS3 system with 120GB HDD which allows users to store many of entertainment content such as games, music, photos and movies.  While inheriting the sleek curved body design of the original model, the form factor of the new PS3 system features a new meticulous design with textured surface finish, giving an all new impression and a casual look.

The PlayStation 2 system (SCPH-90006CB) has sold more than 140 million sell-in units worldwide*1 since it launched in 2000, making it the most popular system in gaming industry history.  During its lifespan, PlayStation 2 not only has pushed video gaming to the forefront of entertainment, but it also introduced the concept of an entertainment system becoming a hub in 
the living room.

The PSP system (PSP-3006) has been gaining enthusiastic support from users worldwide. Offering the highest-level contrast ratio, response time, and wider color gamut possible on a portable LCD screen, the PSP system is capable of displaying movies and photos in more natural and vibrant colors on its high resolution 4.3 inch wide screen. The LCD screen adopts an anti-reflection technology, which enables users to see the screen more clearly in well-lit places, even when used outdoors.  PSP-3006 will be available in Piano Black and Pearl White.
Along with a vast line-up of attractive and exciting entertainment content with the PS3, PlayStation 2 and PSP, SCE Asia will continue to further expand the PlayStation platforms and create a new world of computer entertainment in Asian countries and regions.

To celebrate the launch of PlayStation new products, there will be a 1st day launch event on Saturday, 16th January, 2010 the customer can get premiums for purchase of PlayStation product.

1st day launch event
Date:    Saturday, 16th January, 2010
Venue:     Nguyen Kim Electronics Mall, District 1, Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam

sony think's the market matter's there



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

it's worth doing, but it's not significant for any reason other than making a few bucks on hardware and hopefully building a brand for the future if piracy can be defeated.



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johnsobas said:
it's worth doing, but it's not significant for any reason other than making a few bucks on hardware and hopefully building a brand for the future if piracy can be defeated.

so as of 2009 census

85,789,573 people is not significant?

as for Piracy

digital download's

and

Blu-Ray are good anti piracy measure's already

Thailand population:

63,723,953

indonesia population:

240,271,522

philppines population

as of  2008

88,574,614

chile population

15,116,435

Argentina population census 2001

36,260,130

Malaysia population census 2000

24,821,286

still think the market's there do not matter?

to put this intoperspective the united states population as of 2010  estimated census

308,712,000

in the year 2000 the census for the US

281,421,906



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

In some wholikeswood's posts in this thread there is, besides being pissed off for Capcom's greed, maybe a very, very mild dig at MS too, why some people jump like crazy and get mad at him? Should people censor themselves whenever a news, or their personal thoughts, contain, directly or indirectly, even the slightest negativity against MS? Has MS been declared endangered species, perchance? Are MS execs so sensitive that if we aren't careful enough they could commit seppuku?



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Alby_da_Wolf said:
In some wholikeswood's posts in this thread there is, besides being pissed off for Capcom's greed, maybe a very, very mild dig at MS too, why some people jump like crazy and get mad at him? Should people censor themselves whenever a news, or their personal thoughts, contain, directly or indirectly, even the slightest negativity against MS? Has MS been declared endangered species, perchance? Are MS execs so sensitive that if we aren't careful enough they could commit seppuku?

I do not think that's It at  all, I think it may have to do with some fan's that may be blowing this way out of proportion both from the side with the xbox360 and from the side of the fan's of the PS3 .

some blame SE

some blame Microsoft

and some blame each other for bringing up the short coming's of the other's side system in hope's on making the other side look bad.

i am pretty much the middle because what the developer may have done with lost planet 2 may infact  need the extra disc, Now  I am not saying it's true or that I even think it is true. I just do not know for sure an until we see what that extra content is, I am not hoing to pass judgement on capcom about this, until further info get's out.

 



I AM BOLO

100% lover "nothing else matter's" after that...

ps:

Proud psOne/2/3/p owner.  I survived Aplcalyps3 and all I got was this lousy Signature.

geddesmond2 said:
Seece said:
wholikeswood said:
Seece said:
Oh for god sakes, you're so transparant, anything to take a dig at Microsoft.

Blame Capcom if you want to blame anyone, they could put this on the bluray disc and offer it as free OR paid DLC on Xbox live but no ...

It was Capcom I was blaming.

As starcraft said, it's relatively inexpensive to spread a game over 2 DVDs so, regardless of whether Capcom were too cheap to use a second or too greedy not to go down the 'pay us $60 for the disc now... and $10 again down the' road (or both!), they've still compromised the game's experience off-the-shelf and that angers me as I got quite hyped for purchasing after trying out the demo.

This had nothing to do with taking a dig at Microsoft or the DVD format, yet predictably you tried to spin it as such. Urgh.

Bullshit, you only posted this because it puts the Xbox in bad light, you're the predictable one.

Bullshit lets get real here Seece. The DVD limitations are holding games back and if it wasn't for Microsoft and there crappy hardware decisions people would be enjoying this content for free. I'm going to get banned for this but I couldn't care less. Your the biggest fanboy I've ever came accross accusing people of having hidden agendas against Microsfoft all the time.

 

Remember the time you accused me of not buying the GTA4 DLC because it was on the Xbox 360 first. Well yeah you pissed me off so much with your fanboy accusations then that I forgot the following. How the fuck was I taking a stand against the DLC for being on the Microsoft platform first when I've bought many games that ported over to the PS3 on later dates and bought all 5 Fallout 3 DLCs date of release on PS3.

I have to say your one person that if I ever bumped into on the street I would kick the living shit out of you. Its people like you that make me hate the Xbox 360. Now go cry and get me banned again like a good little pansy boy.



joeorc said:

an I JUST POINTED that out did you not read what i just posted?

look the problem is the CAV drive is not a CLV drive which means that 16MB is optimistic value based on many thing's i just stated, and to be sure why do you think Microsoft section's off a part of the Disc!.

that's the point I am driving at the slower transfer speed between the xbox360's DVD drive and the Blu-Ray Drive in the PS3 is moot point. for the simple fact that on Average the Blu-Ray drive in the ps3 will perform just as fast as the xbox360 dvd drive in transfering Data .

only in certain area's will there be a slight speed advantage and that is pretty much slim due to the very fact that the

DVD drive have to read DL-dvd9's which will already slow their performance because if Microsoft did not section off part of that disc it would effect the speed even further.

since the DVD drive in the XBOX360 is a CAV not a CLV drive

why do you think the Blu-Ray drive in the PS3 is so expensive vs' the DVD drive in the xbox360

Blu-Ray is one part the other is the fact its a CLV optical drive. and it's also a 8X CLV DVD optical drive to boot.

Like I stated this is on Average, but the problem is on Average the xbox360's drive will dip in speed based on where their data is and the closer to the inner part of the disc the slower it is, that does not even take into account the laser having to go through multiple layer's. there is alway's going to be a hit in it's performance. to offset this Microsoft section's off part of the disc. but when have you seen the game's microsoft use that use up the full disc?

you do know the 16 MB's benchmark for a CAV dive is calculated for what the DRIVE's performance

is with SINGLE LAYER DVD's

the same drive reading a  DL-DVD's take a big hit in transfer of data

it's transfer rate is much lower than 16 MB/sec just look at it Average speed of 11 MB/sec it's Average speed drop's to 8.5x just on Single layer that's is Optimistic rate that may not even be that high. an rember that's just benchmarked for a single layer.

there is a reason why the xbox360's optical drive is cheaper than a TruX rated drive this is one of them.

to tell you the truth Microsoft would have been better off going with the HD DVD optical drive like the Blu-Ray Drive it was also a CLV optical drive


who the hell cares about SINGLE LAYER?

why are you talking of HD DVD?

why do I think the blue ray is expensive?

microsoft not using the full disc?

why is the "average speed" so interesting?

so?

What matters is the drive speed in games, and in ps3 it takes 22 minutes for the obligatory INSTALL of the game (5GB) , something that thanks to the dvd drive in xbox360 is not required. BUT if i want to install it all the data (6'5 GB) it is done in 12 minutes.

http://kotaku.com/353612/devil-may-cry-4-ps3-the-mandatory-install-final-time-22-mins

tekken 6 load times with and without installation...

PlayStation 3 Load Times (Not installed):
Time #1 (loading trophies, saved data etc…) 18 – 18.4 seconds
Time #2 (loading characters and preparing to fight) 16 – 18.8 seconds

Xbox 360 Load Times (Not installed):
Time #1 (loading saved data etc…) 0 – 0.3 seconds
Time #2 (loading characters and preparing to fight) 10 – 10.5 seconds

PlayStation 3 Load Times (Installed 4.6 gb):
Time #1 (loading trophies, saved data etc…) 1 – 2 seconds
Time #2 (loading characters and preparing to fight) 11 – 12.2 seconds

Xbox 360 Load TImes (Installed 6.7 gb):
Time #1 (loading saved data etc…) 0 – 0.3 seconds
Time #2 (loading characters and preparing to fight) 10 – 10.5 seconds

And you know, tekken6 is a ps3 game ported to x360.

please go here http://www.lensoftruth.com/?cat=47

Look all the games that require an installation and its load times and keep saying that blue ray is better for games.



Maybe it's the fact that Sony was once on top of the mountain in this industry, and the fall from grace has been swift and brutal. The worst thing about being on top is the fall to the bottom, and maybe the transition from PS2 dominance to PS3 heel-dragging has had a damaging effect on the fanboy psyche, leaving them vulnerable and insecure. Maybe fanboys are suffering from a severe case of paranoid delusion, brought about by denial that the PS3 is in third place when once Sony was leading the charge.

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